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Xbox Project Scorpio Announced - 6TFlops, 320GB/s - Fall 2017
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They said no exclusives.
Theonik
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That's probably it though we'll see how things develop in practice. If Oculus comes to the Xbox One I expect that to be Scorpio exclusive for example. MS seems to be contradicting themselves in more than one occasion while avoiding explicitly denying anything. I guess they learned after the Xbox One backlash
So what's the problem? Who expends U$ 599+ on a VR device probably doesn't want to play older games on a worst resolution so exclusive content is expected.
Journey
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VR is a different category though, Xbox One is not a VR device, you buy an Occulous rift and that in itself is its own platform that you can play on your PC, but when Scorpio is around, you'll have an additional option. That does not apply to Xbox One's ecosystem.
Theonik
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I never said it was a problem!
Well that wasnt really my argument at all, my argument was that Xbox One accessories will work on any future Xbox.
Gamezone
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How relevant can we expect the launch Xbox One and Scorpio to be when "Xbox Two" gets released? The power of the Scorpio can`t obviously be used to perfection as it is tied to the launch consoles, but what happens when the generation after the Scorpio gets released? Will the Scorpio lose it`s ties to the launch consoles, and become the "weaker" version of "Xbox Two"?
barneystuta83
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With PS4 Pro now official, it will be interesting to see in 12 months time what that means for Scorpio.
MS have already come out saying this will be the most powerful console. And, based on what they shared at E3, it certainly would seem that way.
The Scorpio launch price will be the biggest challenge. With the power they claim will be under the hood, getting the price anywhere below $400 will be tough.
MS have already come out saying this will be the most powerful console. And, based on what they shared at E3, it certainly would seem that way.
The Scorpio launch price will be the biggest challenge. With the power they claim will be under the hood, getting the price anywhere below $400 will be tough.
$399 or bust.
Simply Sami
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I rather they price it at 499 if it's a meaningful update. Remember nobody is forced to update to these consoles. So surprising that Sony held back with the PS4 pro.
I'm more curious over how MS reacts if the PS4 Pro crashes and burns. Of course, if it's at least a respectable success, they'll likely still go as currently forecasted. But if the Pro is a dud?
The good news for MS is that they have a hell of a lot of time to carefully craft their messaging and policies for the Scorpio in the wake of the Pro. Look at what does and does not resonate with people, and tailor the marketing accordingly.
They need to focus on telling people why they should upgrade to Scorpio - something Sony only did a little bit of.
They need to focus on telling people why they should upgrade to Scorpio - something Sony only did a little bit of.
Market it as a new generational leap and hope for the best.
Confirms my thinking when Microsoft boldly let their competition know, a year and half in advance, that they were building a 6TF system. They already knew what GPU Sony ordered from AMD for PS4 Pro and that spec was locked. How else could they say on that E3 stage that Scorpio would be the "Most Powerful Console Ever" 18 months out. Holiday 2017 is a long ways away though. Microsoft needs to drop monthly info to keep the fans engaged and aware of what they have coming in the future.
They ultimately can't do that though, because they doubled down on not leaving anybody behind. That means the XBO will be brought along with the Scorpio.
yea i feel like some news would be good right about now. havent even heard of devkits
Dee Dah Dave
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Of course they did. These companies know exactly what the other is up to long before we hear anything through leaks etc.
There was mention MS would do something before the year was up.
Dynasty8
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Isn't it significantly more powerful than the Pro?
Simply Sami
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What?
It would be foolish for them to release a console a year later that wasn't more powerful than the pro. So it was quite obvious.
Depends on how you define significantly... it has a 6 TF GPU vs. the 4.2 TF on Neo. Other specs remain to be seen. Of course, it also has an extra year in the oven, so you have to imagine that production costs will come down in that time.
So the PlayStation 2 strategy? So many of my friends and acquaintances refused to buy a Dreamcast because Sony kept that PS2 drip feed going.
CassidyIzABeast
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Xbox One being so weak works in their favor because the jump will be more significant.
Everything except for Forza and Gears 4 and non-taxing games are 900p or less.
Yeah
Xbox One S $249-199
Xbox Scorpio $399
Just wait until Penello takes the stage to unveil it. Hype.
It also has a full year on it. If Scorpio released this year with 6TF I would expect it at $499-$529 maybe. A year buys them $100 off, and the other $30 I assume they will eat.
I think that they'll hit the $399 otherwise they will lose once again. I personally won't want the Scorpio because I need a 4K HDR TV (and I need a 70" or more) to get most of the advantages of it. I think next year will be the year of NX for me. 
And I'm glad since I missed out on good games for the Wii U, so I'll hopefully be able to get that cheap enough to play the games by then.
What will be really interesting to me is the naming of the Xbox One. Will it be Xbox One Pro (as I've said before...but I still think Xbox 4) or something else?
And I'm glad since I missed out on good games for the Wii U, so I'll hopefully be able to get that cheap enough to play the games by then. What will be really interesting to me is the naming of the Xbox One. Will it be Xbox One Pro (as I've said before...but I still think Xbox 4) or something else?
That's not how you spell Panos Panay
As several others have already stated, Microsoft will be looking to distance themselves from the "One" brand as much as they can.I think that they'll hit the $399 otherwise they will lose once again. I personally won't want the Scorpio because I need a 4K HDR TV (and I need a 70" or more) to get most of the advantages of it. I think next year will be the year of NX for me.
What will be really interesting to me is the naming of the Xbox One. Will it be Xbox One Pro (as I've said before...but I still think Xbox 4) or something else?
Journey
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It can happen, we've seen it before. A full year can mean better parts for the same price.
Panos?
RiccochetJ
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Yea, but it's also coming out a full year after the Pro. At the same time, I have reservations that they'll be able to hit that $399 price point without taking an absolute bath on it.
Chill Penguin
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Today's presentation made the decision very easy for me. As long as Scorpio updates the CPU it should completely demolish the PS4 Pro.
I think that they'll hit the $399 otherwise they will lose once again. I personally won't want the Scorpio because I need a 4K HDR TV (and I need a 70" or more) to get most of the advantages of it. I think next year will be the year of NX for me.
What will be really interesting to me is the naming of the Xbox One. Will it be Xbox One Pro (as I've said before...but I still think Xbox 4) or something else?
I wonder if they were hoping Neo would be $499.
NEW Xbox One S
j/k
I think it will be Xbox One Ultra.
I have doubts about that since Spencer explicitly said it was joining the Xbox One family of devices.
That's not how you spell Panos Panay
Phil or Panos should get dibs
Panos would sell one to your entire family and make you hump the bastard dry though
Simply Sami
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I think that they'll hit the $399 otherwise they will lose once again. I personally won't want the Scorpio because I need a 4K HDR TV (and I need a 70" or more) to get most of the advantages of it. I think next year will be the year of NX for me.
What will be really interesting to me is the naming of the Xbox One. Will it be Xbox One Pro (as I've said before...but I still think Xbox 4) or something else?
What will they lose?
They lost last time due to screwing up and mix messaging. People are happy to pay top dollar for a console with great specs.
They not happy to pay top dollar for a console that was trying to ban used games, force Kinect and significantly less powerful than the rival. Which is what happened with the Xbox one. The Xbox one wasn't worth it compared to a PS4 three years ago.
Pretty much this. If I wanted a 1080/30 console for 399.99 I would buy a Pro. I want a real CPU to go with these GPU upgrades. A Zen Vega combo would allow 1080/60 in 80% or more of games.
therealbigrich
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it has to hit 399 imo for any chance that I'm not sure it even has . It will be 350 by next year so even 499 unless it can do something amazing I don't think it will work
I think it was for the first two years of the console though wasn't it?
LukasTaves
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It will be 400. Anything over and it's dead on the water and Ms sure as hell knows that.
I don't think that was eveer established...at least I don't remember them saying anything like that.
01DragonFly
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The ball is in your court microsoft lol
Proelite
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theonerayman
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It's going to be 500 at least, they have already said it's going to be a premium product.
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