Geoff said that next gen games will be shown during the vgas. Any idea if around that time we here something from sony or ms?
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Geoff said that next gen games will be shown during the vgas. Any idea if around that time we here something from sony or ms?
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Will we see a real generational leap (for Durango, PS 4) or more a small leap like Nintendo is doing with their Wii consoles?
Proelite
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Real generational leap in real world performances. Less impressive on paper.
I know this for a fact.
bgassassin
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I'd say it's the other way around. Real generational leap on paper and less impressive in real world performance.
Proelite
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Then the wiiu stuff would look even closer to current gen.
I was referring to an official announcement. Also, the September release rumor is seeming more and more likely.
This is just another set up for disappointment... this roller coaster has already been going up and down for over 2 years, rumours that the thing will be monster, followed by rumours that it will be only 4x the performance of the 360, followed by more monster rumours, followed by more weak sauce rumours, etc etc...
Lab "Fable is the best" warrior and Santiago "I like my thesaurus" flores.
Announcement this year?
Par for these moments in time. I personally feel that the nextbox and ps4 will both be powerful "enough" to warrant dishing out some cash but in all honesty I'm still expecting 720p @ 30fps with much better IQ.
I mean... we're not making the best use of pixel real-estate at 720 right now - there's still quite a ways to go before we can jump to making use of 720p at 60.
clutch.as.it.gets.
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Will we see a real generational leap (for Durango, PS 4) or more a small leap like Nintendo is doing with their Wii consoles?
Early next year. It would be stupid to announce a new console while people could still return their Christmas presents. I never heard Keighley say anything about next-gen at this year's VGAs, but I can say unequivocally that publishers and developers are chomping at the bit to show next-gen products. So I expect lots of next-gen videos without platform information during the VGAs, because that's the best place to show them to the mainstream.
I've been told "big leap," but I mean, they're not super likely to undersell new platforms. Everybody is hoping new consoles reinvigorate excitement in the space. Industry people seem beyond annoyed that next-gen isn't here yet. I think they wanted it this christmas.
When publishers talk about next-gen, they're talking about the next Xbox and PS4. I think the Xbox successor will launch next year. Sony's release calendar is dead after June, and I can't remember the last time that happened. I just don't know how they can afford it.
Don't think anything will be announced before E3 with only a few "significant" leaks here and there prior to it. It's more appropriate to believe that if the sale of next gen consoles have been delayed due to production issues to Q1 2014.
Ah yes, Lab's fetish of Fable and it's alleged sacredness was truly exemplary. And I'd like call Santiago, the know-it-all whose ego was too large house any doubts in his statements.
What was your name on GT?
Ah yes, Lab's fetish of Fable and it's alleged sacredness was truly exemplary. And I'd like call Santiago, the know-it-all whose ego was too large house any doubts in his statements.
What was your name on GT?
When you say next gen you aren't referring to the wiiu are you?Do you think both ps4/nextbox will be out by next year?
Well I want crystal clear images at 1080p 30fps is fine by me....
I was ready for next gen when I tried Black Ops in 3D...
I am really excited though about next gen, it is going to be a sweet ride the next 8 months with rumours and everything.
here, vga next gen thing
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478535
i am 99.9% sure Geoff confirmed it on twitter back then.
He said they are waiting to show next gen stuff,i meant if that stuff was coming to the wiiu too.
bigtroyjon
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Last year?
Edit-Meaning last year at this time, what exactly did we know about Sony's release calendar for the second half of this year?
what?!
So i guess there is a chance then,cool.
pieatorium
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Exactly what he said, at this time last year what amount of games did we know about for this holiday? I'm pretty sure RE, CoD, Ass Creed, weren't revealed till after holiday 2011 although i guess 2 of those were pretty much given.
Fuck the industry, 16 core processor, 8GB GDDR5 mem, GTX 690 and all the rest. $1499.
I'd buy. Do it Microsoft, do it.
Seriously though I want this machine to be a beast, something that really communicates next-gen. I don't want hardware that sacrifices power to allow for some targeted form factor.
I'd buy. Do it Microsoft, do it.
Seriously though I want this machine to be a beast, something that really communicates next-gen. I don't want hardware that sacrifices power to allow for some targeted form factor.
bgassassin
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Appollowexx
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Unfortunately that's not how business works. Buy an Uber-PC if you want that kind of insane raw power.
Still there is definitely a middle ground, and I suspect that next gen will be pretty amazing looking.
Proelite
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With stacked ram, DSPs and a shitload of customized parts, they can make a small form factor console that can go toe to toe with a PC that has your listed specs.
bigtroyjon
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Agree 100%, main thing i want from next gen is for them to not spend one single cent or resource worrying about how the thing will look. If it takes a big, ugly console to give us the best possible console, then do it.
Worry about the looks when it's time for a hardware revision.
endresults
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Hear hear. Make it a big white or black box the size of a big receiver if you want. It's just going to sit in the entertainment center anyway.
XtremeXpider
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The problem is people think about costs taking pc parts as reference.
And, you know, do some damn QA on the hardware before shipping it.
I have zero faith in MS as a hardware company, due to the endless reliability issues with the 360. The next 12 months or so will be interesting, with the Surface and Xbox3, to see if they have learned costly lessons from the past and can start producing top tier hardware. The more complex they make the design of the next Xbox, the more chance of another hardware fiasco.
I'd rather not say. I'll admit I was an idiot back in those days and have since straightened myself out - I haven't logged on GT in forever... place brought out the worst poster in me, lol.
Neo Geo, 3DO?
That rumor from the xbox fanboy site sounds way too out there IMO. I do hope we see something this year at VGA though.
Wonder if MS or Sony will reveal their next gen system ahead of E3 next year so they don't have to share the spotlight.
You'd figure that the slim showed they learned their lesson. Sony improved after the ps2 fiasco, so I don't see why MS won't, especially after how much they lost over the RRoD fuck up.
Wonder if MS or Sony will reveal their next gen system ahead of E3 next year so they don't have to share the spotlight.
You'd figure that the slim showed they learned their lesson. Sony improved after the ps2 fiasco, so I don't see why MS won't, especially after how much they lost over the RRoD fuck up.
XtremeXpider
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What we know is Microsoft is done with CES keynotes.
Quicksilver4648
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My prediction:
1. A number of "next-gen" games being shown at the VGAs but without platform context, or they will just say Xbox 360 and PS3 but show visuals that surpass the current-gen hardware.
2. At GDC there will be MANY backdoor meetings and some data/pics could leak out. Not final production units, but further advanced dev kits.
3. At E3 or just before E3 (such as the day/week before) the final hardware will be shows.
4. This is where it gets interesting. My guess is that Microsoft will launch in November which will allow ample development time and hardware testing with Sony launching early at September or October because they want to be first to market. Of course, these could be completely swapped as Microsoft has a habit of launching new products very shortly after announcement.
tl;dr These predictions are completely made up on the spot and have no source to back them up.
1. A number of "next-gen" games being shown at the VGAs but without platform context, or they will just say Xbox 360 and PS3 but show visuals that surpass the current-gen hardware.
2. At GDC there will be MANY backdoor meetings and some data/pics could leak out. Not final production units, but further advanced dev kits.
3. At E3 or just before E3 (such as the day/week before) the final hardware will be shows.
4. This is where it gets interesting. My guess is that Microsoft will launch in November which will allow ample development time and hardware testing with Sony launching early at September or October because they want to be first to market. Of course, these could be completely swapped as Microsoft has a habit of launching new products very shortly after announcement.
tl;dr These predictions are completely made up on the spot and have no source to back them up.
And they are now putting on their own event around CES.
bigtroyjon
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Don't think they said that. The reason they gave for giving up the CES keynote was that they wanted to be able to do their own stuff, on their own timeline and not be tied into a specific time frame do to conferences.
Setting up their own event around CES would defeat the purpose of not being tied into a specific time frame.
bgassassin
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I think they were at a Durango conference when a Crytek employee mistakenly tweeted about being there.
Beyond Two Souls and The Last of Us. I don't think either of those is coming out in the first half of next year, so their holiday 2013 line-up is already better than this year and we're not even at the VGA's yet.
jetsetfluken
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I'm not liking the 1080p/30 and 720p/60 talk.
720p/60 is something that exists in many finer tuned games this generation, you're telling me with the rumored power of the next Xbox (as an example system), these are the best milestones developers are being told to shoot for?
How about 2160/30 instead guys? Alright, maybe too far in the future. Maybe the first slew of games are only shooting for those rumored resolution/fps milestones.
4K is definitely something I want from these, even if adoption rate of the consumer won't arise until a few years. Same happened with 1080p.
720p/60 is something that exists in many finer tuned games this generation, you're telling me with the rumored power of the next Xbox (as an example system), these are the best milestones developers are being told to shoot for?
How about 2160/30 instead guys? Alright, maybe too far in the future. Maybe the first slew of games are only shooting for those rumored resolution/fps milestones.
4K is definitely something I want from these, even if adoption rate of the consumer won't arise until a few years. Same happened with 1080p.