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Yahoo CEO Marissa Mayer worked from her hospital bed shortly after having twins
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starchild excalibur
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I don't know if finding time to still reach out to Yahoo corporate is "neglecting" your children though. There are times when your children will be asleep or being seen by other family members. I absolutely agree with you that they shouldn't be neglected for work, but I don't know enough about her daily routine to equate finding time to still do some minor work with child neglect.
Yup, you're right. Hopefully she handles stress well though and her work behavior wasn't as taxing on her as it would have been on a normal person.
I agree. It's supposed to be a puff piece and people are absolutely fine to not be impressed by it or find it something worth cheering on. But some of the comments in here almost feel personally upset at the notion that the CEO of a struggling company is still working harder than there's any expectation for her to do so during the time of her pregnancy especially.
entremet
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She's a hypocrite and a dummy because she was the one who banned it lol.
Not three meetings a day. Three-day meetings.
Unless you're talking one-off epic negotiations here (due to a merger or something of the sort), no meeting should last three days, let alone having multiples of them.
One of the worst things you can do as a manager is have too many meetings.
Yes, have meetings to sync-up and knowledge transfer as needed, but if those are running longer than 30 to 60 minutes, you're doing it wrong.
ElectricBlanketFire
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My boss is like this. Just a few weeks ago he was calling and emailing me during his son's graduation ceremony.
SliceSabre
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I don't see this as something to be admired. She sets a terrible example for women everywhere that will most certainly be used against them when they need maternity leave.
"Oh look the CEO of Yahoo had TWINS and she started working again before the meds even worn off! What do you mean you need maternity leave!? Lazy!"
"Oh look the CEO of Yahoo had TWINS and she started working again before the meds even worn off! What do you mean you need maternity leave!? Lazy!"
Skellig Gra
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It's a problem because the whole system of parental leave in the US is absolutely pathetic and toxic. My wife is in tears every night at the thought of sending our son to daycare because he's still so young. Celebrating stuff like this only makes it worse.
John Kowalski
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I wish people wouldn't glorify this kind of excessive behaviour. I hate finding out that i am consuming a product or service that encouraged workaholics to give into their obsession, it's both professionally exploitative and a disregard for their quality of life.
Assuming otherwise is naive or just reeks of Dunning-Kruger effect.
Spring Drive
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It worked for Elon Musk
entremet
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No one cares. It's her life and she's a grown woman. But to ignore it's not a thing is foolish.
Read the OP. Yahoo announced it would sell its core business shortly afterward. It included meetings with board members.
TheSpoiler
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Whether or not she was stressed enough to affect the birth of her and her children is a moot point in my eyes, since you probably couldn't prove the impact of this situation unless it's drastic.
The real issue is glorifying the fact that she continued to work while about to give birth. That's not right. America has a weird air about it in the job scene, where leaving work after your hours are up is scoffed at, and people who go too far are seen as heroes, usually killing themselves over the job.
My (soon to be former) boss had a mental breakdown because he works early in the morning before work, gets to go to a workout class to discuss work with a few employees, deals with shit all day, and stays late and then usually has to take the shit home.
But everyone is like "WOW YOU ARE SO AMAZING GOOD JOB" even though he doesn't get paid for that extra shit, and the actual work quality would be better if the company was run in such a way that everything is optimized to avoid that happening.
This spills into a bunch of stuff. Maternity leave, general stress levels that have long term impacts on both physical and mental health levels, and much more. In short, it's something that shouldn't have to happen.
The real issue is glorifying the fact that she continued to work while about to give birth. That's not right. America has a weird air about it in the job scene, where leaving work after your hours are up is scoffed at, and people who go too far are seen as heroes, usually killing themselves over the job.
My (soon to be former) boss had a mental breakdown because he works early in the morning before work, gets to go to a workout class to discuss work with a few employees, deals with shit all day, and stays late and then usually has to take the shit home.
But everyone is like "WOW YOU ARE SO AMAZING GOOD JOB" even though he doesn't get paid for that extra shit, and the actual work quality would be better if the company was run in such a way that everything is optimized to avoid that happening.
This spills into a bunch of stuff. Maternity leave, general stress levels that have long term impacts on both physical and mental health levels, and much more. In short, it's something that shouldn't have to happen.
therealist
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A CEO is always working. They might not be in the office but they could be on a beach somewhere vacationing and if an important call needs to be had the CEO is obligated to drop everything and take the call.
This is an extreme version of being on-call 24/7 but the point remains. When you have millions of investors and their money is dependent on your performance, there is no "I'll take the call when I get back from maternity leave". You also can't delegate the decision-making to someone else. You were hired for a reason, because they want YOU making the final calls, not someone else.
This is an extreme version of being on-call 24/7 but the point remains. When you have millions of investors and their money is dependent on your performance, there is no "I'll take the call when I get back from maternity leave". You also can't delegate the decision-making to someone else. You were hired for a reason, because they want YOU making the final calls, not someone else.
tearsintherain
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I don't think anyone can "literally work 24 hours a day, 7 days a week" unless they have transcended human need for sleep.
She always felt like someone who has known nothing but success, and spent likewise. Anyone can spend money like crazy when times are good, the good CEOs are the ones who know what to do when things go back and Yahoo was wrong to hire someone who knew nothing but success.
http://www.businessinsider.com/yaho...es-and-sponsorships-says-eric-jackson-2015-12
She always felt like someone who has known nothing but success, and spent likewise. Anyone can spend money like crazy when times are good, the good CEOs are the ones who know what to do when things go back and Yahoo was wrong to hire someone who knew nothing but success.
http://www.businessinsider.com/yaho...es-and-sponsorships-says-eric-jackson-2015-12
PumpkinSpice
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Why is this article written like it's a good thing? This isn't healthy and really shouldn't be encouraged.
Plinko
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My thoughts exactly. It is not often I feel somebody should be "shamed," but this is close. A terrible, terrible example and I'm sure corporate America loves that this is out there. "See, the CEO did it! Why can't you, person who makes 1000 times less than she does?"
FloatingDivider
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That sounds like terrible efficiency. She should work smarter not harder...
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Deleted member 47027
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This is a CEO thing. She does what she needs to.
Mechanized
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The perfect slave to the machine. What an admirable drone.
BlueTsunami
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Deleted member 47027
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Time is money. Money can buy pretty much anything.
Vermillion
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Work smarter, not harder.
Impressive, work ethic though (if kinda extreme).
Impressive, work ethic though (if kinda extreme).
The Albatross
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The double-standard around Mayer, even by people who would consider themselves progressive, is disgusting. If she takes time off to be with her kids, people would criticize her that she's giving herself special treatment that she wouldn't extend to her employees (which is likely untrue, yahoo may have a strict work from home policy but the company receives high grades from employees on Work/Life balance). If she works bits and pieces while having this life experience, she's treated with scorn for god knows what reason... "Trying to set an unrealistic standard," or something. Maybe she just cares about her work? Or maybe her work is such an integral part of her life that she is passionate about doing it, even during a time when other people may not? Who the hell is anybody here to judge what motivates someone personally and professionally?
I really don't understand why people are driven to scorn Marissa Mayer. She's a hard working, brilliant person who is doing about the same job with Yahoo! as any hard working brilliant person would be doing.
I don't think that a male CEO in silicon valley would have his life examined in every possible way, and I think her's is being examined by people who would otherwise probably consider themselves progressive. The reason Click-bait "trying to act legit" Business Insider is writing fluff pieces like this is because they know that any article about Mayer, positive or negative, is going to drum up forum posts, clicks, and comment wars of people who feel strongly about her, typically in a negative way. There are few CEOs who are under the microscope much like she is, and I don't think it has anything to do with her performance or the performance of Yahoo!, but instead, with her being a prominent female CEO in the tech industry.
I really don't understand why people are driven to scorn Marissa Mayer. She's a hard working, brilliant person who is doing about the same job with Yahoo! as any hard working brilliant person would be doing.
I don't think that a male CEO in silicon valley would have his life examined in every possible way, and I think her's is being examined by people who would otherwise probably consider themselves progressive. The reason Click-bait "trying to act legit" Business Insider is writing fluff pieces like this is because they know that any article about Mayer, positive or negative, is going to drum up forum posts, clicks, and comment wars of people who feel strongly about her, typically in a negative way. There are few CEOs who are under the microscope much like she is, and I don't think it has anything to do with her performance or the performance of Yahoo!, but instead, with her being a prominent female CEO in the tech industry.
Let's be real here. Mayer is available 24/7 for her job role as CEO. She's probably at work most hours of the day.
But let's not pretend like she works like a normal pleb - she gets the perks and freedom of autonomy to do as she likes so long as she has a plan of action.
I mean, yes, the job is more stressful than a normal office role - but this is hardly some 24/7 bullshit job that makes you feel like meaningless pap that drains your body and soul.
I mean, if her work was 24/7 as stressful as normal 8/5 work (as opposed to including a bunch of filler events like travel and lunch meetings, etc) she'd be completely wrecked and ineffectual at her role.
But sure, dress it up, and make it sound like she works like some freakazoid ironman. It's possible! But doesn't strike me as particularly realistic.
But let's not pretend like she works like a normal pleb - she gets the perks and freedom of autonomy to do as she likes so long as she has a plan of action.
I mean, yes, the job is more stressful than a normal office role - but this is hardly some 24/7 bullshit job that makes you feel like meaningless pap that drains your body and soul.
I mean, if her work was 24/7 as stressful as normal 8/5 work (as opposed to including a bunch of filler events like travel and lunch meetings, etc) she'd be completely wrecked and ineffectual at her role.
But sure, dress it up, and make it sound like she works like some freakazoid ironman. It's possible! But doesn't strike me as particularly realistic.
Pyrrhus
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This has always been the vibe I get whenever she comes up in the news. She comes off like Patrick Bateman.
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I'd work the day after having twins for 60 million a year too
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Deleted member 47027
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There's been plenty of studies to back this up - women can't fucking win. Stay with your kids for a bit? "Oh she's just being a woman" - bust your ass working? "What a heartless machine"
Women are set up to fail.
Vermillion
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therealist
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Some people can work smart AND hard. It's no different than saying an NBA athlete can do certain things that normal people would never be able to do. They become CEOs for a reason.
TheOctodad
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Sorry, but I don't agree with patting people on the back for missing their life and the life of their loved ones. There's more to life than that - or their should be. At some point it's enough and the world will spin without you.
This has nothing to do with being a woman. I'd say the same to a new father.
This has nothing to do with being a woman. I'd say the same to a new father.
metalslimer
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What an awful person (and failure of a ceo)
rokkerkory
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pretty nuts of her to do that, not the kind of standard I'd set as a CEO but it's because yahoo is in turmoil
Sain Drevia
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Kind of crazy that Yahoo is in such a terrible state despite the time she sinks in it/her work. Being CEO of a company like that certainly isn't an envious task, though I am a work to live person, so I don't see myself ever wanting to be in any sort of comparable situation.
TheOctodad
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Number of women who don't sell their life and life of their children for loyalty to a floundering company = all but her apparently.
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Deleted member 47027
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For $117 million. Imagine that.
backflip10019
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FTFY
Vermillion
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Sure, but not that hard. There's always something to be done - it's about getting it done in the best way possible. She's the hardest working CEO in the Valley - is she the best CEO in the Valley? If not, there are tradeoffs being made that aren't worth it (IMO).
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