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[G-Fex]

Of course there is going to be people defending this.

 

[ZerOmegaG]

It's a bit weird having to explain common sense to people. Anyway.

The game has a bit of nudity censorship yes, but nudity and violence are shown in a different manner than other games. Those make Yandere Simulator be correctly perceived as way more offensive than any other game in Twitch.

Yandere Simulator features nudity and violence as integral part of a game solely about murdering and torturing high school students. They are not shown in a jokingly way or as part of the plot. Then, nudity in particular is featured in interactive scenes; not cut scenes in which the least offensive camera angles are shown. Lastly, the game has realistic 3d graphics.

For the general public those aspects make it way more offensive than any Senran Kagura, South Park or Doom game. All of those are silly games that show nudity and violence in a jokingly manner, with unrealistic looks and in cut scenes that don't show offensive camera angles. Viewers laugh.

It's like watching an action movie: objectively the violence is over the top, but it doesn't look offensive because of the way it is shown. The intention is not to disgust.

To be blunt with the comparison, I'll provide a couple of more examples. Be aware they are bit disgusting, but those might be necessary for some to understand that the context is everything.

Spoiler

While in a movie sometimes hundreds of villains are murdered, still those killings are nothing like Yandere Simulator in terms of crudeness. No blockbuster action movie features realistic-looking torture, of innocents, seen from a first person perspective, including teen nudity so the scene is perceived as more crude, that lasts for hours if you want to. South Park doesn't do that. This game does.

Or think about really rough porn or hentai: if the core content is clearly non-appropriate in anything other than a very shady porn store, then adding a pixel of censorship won't make it any more suitable for screening it on TV. That's what Yandere Simulator did, adding merely a bit of blurring as a way to try to circumvent common sense. It's crude teen nudity anyway, no matter the blur. Or if you haven't got the message yet, channels can show boobs on TV, as long as the intention and the context is deemed non-offensive. Yandere Simulator strives to be as offensive as possible; way more so than Postal 2.

Realistic looks? Offensive camera angles? Nudity as an integral part of the game? What game are you even talking about here?

 

[Kinyou]

Umm... in what way do you seriously believe that these south park scenes will influence someone in a dangerous way? What kid will see this and be affected badly? How is this even a comparison?

Considering the game has a high age rating and that those scenes were censored in the EU and Australia someone apparently thought that those scenes are "dangerous"

 

[Chie Satonaka]

While I ultimately agree with the key points YandereDev makes, I was really disappointed in the "those people" segment. Like, Jesus Christ, dude. There's not an SJW conspiracy to keep your game off Twitch. It there were, all the other games you listed (especially Senran Kagura and Gal Gun) wouldn't be allowed there either. Hopefully someone just tells him what the deal is and he can make changes (or not!) as appropriate.

Also, I was unaware that YanSim's fanbase skewed so young. Fucking 11? God, what a different time. When I was 11, I was playing my NES and watching Power Rangers.

/old

 

[Horp]

Considering the game has a high age rating and that those scenes were censored in the EU and Australia someone apparently thought that those scenes are "dangerous"

Prob cause lots of those ratings are based on feature bullet lists. Which is bullshit. Imagine I create a game which depicts sex, but with pixel art characters, with 6 pixels per character. A text says "adults having consented intercourse". I bet it would get me a M or atleast T rating in many places. Would it ever in any situation lead to any harm, mental of physical, for anyone? Most definitely not.
This is why Twitch has done the right thing. They looked at this game and said "no. That doesnt belong here.", by looking at the whole package. The context, the actual actions that occur, the motivation behind these, the surrounding gameplay...

 

[Chie Satonaka]

Prob cause lots of those ratings are based on feature bullet lists. Which is bullshit. Imagine I create a game which depicts sex, but with pixel art characters, with 6 pixels per character. A text says "adults having consentes intercourse". I bet it would get me a M or atleast T rating in many places. Would it ever in any situation lead to any harm, mental of physical, for anyone? Most definitely not.
This is why Twitch has done the right thing. They looked at this game and said "no. That doesnt belong here.", by looking at the whole package. The context, the actual actions that occur, the motivation behind these, the surrounding gameplay...

Isn't that the entire point? Twitch hasn't made a statement as to why this has happened one way or the other. He wants to know why. AFAIK, they've never come right out and said this.

If that's Twitch's decision, they have the right to have it. His main issue is a lack of communication.

 

[Horp]

Isn't that the entire point? Twitch hasn't made a statement as to why this has happened one way or the other. He wants to know why. AFAIK, they've never come right out and said this.

If that's Twitch's decision, they have the right to have it. His main issue is a lack of communication.

And I agree that there should be better communication. Dont really care though. Shit game, dev with shit political views. But what I'm really discussing here is the other points (which some people in here are makig too), that this game is equal or even less problematic than fucking south park.

 

[~Cross~]

Guys, think rationally here, instead of looking at the similarities between the products banned/allowed why dont you look at the differences?

Sonicomi: Has you dress up a shapely woman and take pictures of her as her photographer in the modeling agency she works at.

Yandere: Allows you to take pictures of unassuming underaged students for the purpose of blackmailing them or bullying them into committing suicide.

GoW: Has you murder and dismember fantasy monsters as well as people in your quest to fuck up the gods because you are very angry (and probably a psychopath).

Yandere: Has you murder and dismember children to stop them from talking to your crush because you are most certainly a psychopath.

Bully: Has you assaulting kids (storywise, the vast majority of the time being consensual between two parties) so that you can raise your status within the school and eventually unify all the different groups like a warlord.

Yandere: Has you assaulting and torturing children till they either die or go into a mind broken mess of stockholm syndrome just because they dared talk to senpai.

 

[AlexFlame116]

Of course there is going to be people defending this.

Defending Twitch or Yandere Dev?

I'm sorry it's just that I don't know what people are trying to argue anymore. Especially after some people's fantastic lack of caring enough to post.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

And I agree that there should be better communication. Dont really care though. Shit game, dev with shit political views. But what I'm really discussing here is the other points (which some people in here are makig too), that this game is equal or even less problematic than fucking south park.

Bleah, I know.

I love Yandere fiction, and I think the game looks fun, but this really rubbed me wrong too, and I have a hard time supporting it.

I do think there's merit in the content discussion, but I don't think South Park is the place to hang your hat in that regard. South Park is kind of an institution of gross out shock humor, so violence and sex are kinda in their wheelhouse. Stick of Truth, for all of the crazy stuff that happens in it, is still a game designed to make you laugh. Yandere Sim is not. In his own words: "Yandere-chan is not a good person."

I totally get the idea that it's not just ONE thing in particular, but all of them combined that make the game inappropriate. But yeah, I think Twitch should just communicate that.

 

[AlexFlame116]

snip...

This has been discussed in multiple threads. The students aren't children. They're teenagers. If I recall correctly they're 18. You still dismember people sometimes in GoW. Not just fantasy creatures. You're punching them to death while the camera is in your face about it. There are games where people have intercourse which is not what I want but it's there. Sengan Kagura does a lot of the same thing. So do other games.

You can spin things any way you want them to. But the other side can still be spun. Fact is, like it or not the developer wants answers. He doesn't want assumptions that many have given and are still giving. Just answers from Twitch themselves. He deserves that at least.

 

[arhra]

Also, I was unaware that YanSim's fanbase skewed so young. Fucking 11? God, what a different time. When I was 11, I was playing my NES and watching Power Rangers.

/old

It's a game that was essentially spawned out of 4chan.

And the audience data was most likely pulled from an internet poll with zero verification as to the accuracy of the data entered.

If you think those 12 year old girls in the poll are actually 12 years old (or actually girls), I have a bridge I'm looking to sell.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

It's a game that was essentially spawned out of 4chan.

And the audience data was most likely pulled from an internet poll with zero verification as to the accuracy of the data entered.

If you think those 12 year old girls in the poll are actually 12 years old (or actually girls), I have a bridge I'm looking to sell.

I didn't even consider that.

Yeah, you're probably right.

 

[Fireblend]

Regardless of the content or whether the dev or Twitch is right, it'd be nice if Twitch made some sort of statement (not public, just contact the dev and tell him why the game's on the list). Policy obscurity is an issue.

 

[Alpha_eX]

So this is a game with violence, torture, upskirt photos and nudity, set in a school and people can't understand why it's banned on twitch?

Sure, GTA has killing and torture, but that is not the main mechanic of the game. Same for South Park.

The author is just too butt hurt to step back and look at his game as someone new to it, like I was.

If the twitch moderation team got a glance of it as I did, no wonder they banned it.

Edit: oh and of course, despite how obvious it it, Twitch should at least reply and say why it is banned.

 

[~Cross~]

This has been discussed in multiple threads. The students aren't children. They're teenagers. If I recall correctly they're 18. You still dismember people sometimes in GoW. Not just fantasy creatures. You're punching them to death while the camera is in your face about it. There are games where people have intercourse which is not what I want but it's there. Sengan Kagura does a lot of the same thing. So do other games.

You can spin things any way you want them to. But the other side can still be spun. Fact is, like it or not the developer wants answers. He doesn't want assumptions that many have given and are still giving. Just answers from Twitch themselves. He deserves that at least.

Yeah and that dragon is most certainly 1000 years old.

No mr twitch this magical space isnt really a high school despite what the pubescent looking anime teenagers wearing uniforms might tell you. Thats not blood, that merely tomato sauce! They aren't committing suicide they are just going on a vacation!

 

[Alandrus]

I watched this. I'm not a huge fan of these anime titles. But I felt his concerns over the ban is warranted. I'm starting to wonder if his best luck is just to rename the title fromYandere Simulator to something else like Obsession Prank Gone too Far! Sorry, too much YouTube today. But a new title that also encapsulates the game.

His concerns over the ban is warranted. I felt like one of the most logical reasons for the ban was someone banned it and left the company. I don't think it was money considering they have Battleborn is there and ain't no body playing that game. There are plenty of games will single digit viewers on Twitch listed games.

For me, the guy seems flexible to make the game as "safe" as he can make it. For one thing, if he got the game somehow rated on the ESRB scale that could help his argument/ (I have no idea how a developer gets their game ESRB classified) But if he did and it fell on M that would help his argument. If Twitch actually spoke to him, this would've been resolved. He seems very willing to add more clouds or a towel to conceal nudity, to change textures, and whatever else to get his game to stream.

I wish him the best of luck.

 

[Skinpop]

Also, I was unaware that YanSim's fanbase skewed so young. Fucking 11? God, what a different time. When I was 11, I was playing my NES and watching Power Rangers.

/old

at 13 i was murdering kids and becoming a porn star in fallout 2.

 

[Chie Satonaka]

at 13 i was murdering kids and becoming a porn star in fallout 2.

One of these days I'll fire that up.

 

[Budi]

at 13 i was murdering kids and becoming a porn star in fallout 2.

Now that's a game that should get more exposure on Twitch. Show those youngsters what real Fallout game is like.

 

[MartyStu]

Yandere Simulator is super tongue in cheek and campy as hell. The fact that you can do everything you can isn't really an issue. The game is bananas anime and over the top.

The fact that Corpse Party is A OK on Twitch but this isn't is pretty dumb.

The whole SJW thing was really cringey though and super embarrassing. Way to take a valid complaint and critique and just nuke all credibility in an instant.

My thought as well.

I think his game is gross, but I think there is certainly an argument to be had about whether it deserves to be on twitch or not.

He certainly does not deserve to be ignored.

That said, the more he discussed his game, the more I understood why Twitch did not want it on their channel.

 

[kewlmyc]

While his "THOSE people" segment is fucked and hurt his whole argument, I do hope they at least tell him why they banned his game from twitch. Being purposely left in the dark sucks.

 

[Mandoric]

Twitch has a catch all "Is it adult rated by the ESRB or the equivalent in another country? Then you cant play it"

Yandere Sim, if it was rated right now by the ESRB, would be an AO game.

This is either untrue or extremely selectively enforced, unless they've recently purged GTA, Assassin's Creed, and Dead Rising and I just haven't noticed. (For that matter, the first two Fallouts would be insta-AO under current ESRB standards, for exactly the same reason that YS would be, yet a couple hundred people are watching them right now.)

I can see the argument for Twitch keeping its front page family-friendly from a marketing perspective, but it's silly to have what's essentially GTA or Manhunt: In Love in High School Edition on the never-ever list. If anything, the site needs a flat mature content login gate with free reign beyond.

I don't agree with the dev's assessment of who's causing his problem; I think it's frankly dumb to ban something from a market-dominant public platform solely because it squicks someone, but if we're gonna have that bar we may as well be fair about it, and we should recognize that the bar comes from lazy and risk-averse suits rather than the person who got squicked.

 

[Skinpop]

Now that's a game that should get more exposure on Twitch. Show those youngsters what real Fallout game is like.

yup, it's by far the best in the series.

 

[Pacotez]

South Park and Danganronpa have kids beating and torturing kids, underage nudity and other underage sex pandering and a lot of weird shit. Twitch is okay with them tho

 

[DylanEno]

I thought the reason behind this game's alienation was due to the fact that you're essentially murdering and sexualizing minors? This takes place in high school, right? With the witcher you're in a heavy fantasy setting that's very much comprised of adults taking part in adult scenarios, be they violent or sexual.


Edit: this might have already been covered thoroughly lol. Didn't read through the thread.

 

[Sölf]

I really hope he at least gets an answer. And if the answer is "Because you have all of those things together in one game", well, then it is that. But then he at least knows why his game was banned.

I mean, if Twitch still doesn't want to communicate we can all assume that his THOSE people argument is actually the right one, as cringy and far fetched as it was. Could be true, right?

 

[Mike Golf]

Yandere Simulator is super tongue in cheek and campy as hell. The fact that you can do everything you can isn't really an issue. The game is bananas anime and over the top.

The fact that Corpse Party is A OK on Twitch but this isn't is pretty dumb.

The whole SJW thing was really cringey though and super embarrassing. Way to take a valid complaint and critique and just nuke all credibility in an instant.

Yeah, to everyone talking about context in regards to this game being banned but not others, the bolded explains it in YS' case. This game is not a serious take on murdering kids, or forcing them to commit suicide etc. It is a satire/piss take on the "yandere" super jealous, over obsessive character arch type in anime and manga.

That's cool if you don't like it, I don't find it interesting, but the fact is the context here is no different than the stuff in South Park, where it's not meant to be taken seriously.

Here's hoping Twitch will take notice and least give the solid reason why, he stated numerous times that he's willing to make changes so it will be allowed to be streamed and there is proof that games previously placed on a ban list can be removed.

 

[Back-In-Black]

JESUS, Mother Mary, and GOD! Twitch has every right to ban that game just based off of the brief snippets he showed off in that video and from what I've read from some gaffers here. His points are also plain stupid.

First, his points about other games having similar elements.

I don't know... the list of stuff this game had just kept growing:

1. Assaulting high school kids.
2. Murdering high school kids.
3. Sneaking panty shots of high school kids.
4. Nude high school kids with obscured genitalia and nipples.
5. Giant naked high school kids that was altered after the fact.

It really doesn't seem strange that someone in the Twitch moderation team reviewed this game and came to the conclusion that it should be banned.

So, one of the reasons it could be banned is not because it simply has any one of these elements but ALL of them combined to make a game that veers dangerously close to child pornography. Now, if avens description below is correct that just further explains why its banned.

It's a bit weird having to explain common sense to people. Anyway.

The game has a bit of nudity censorship yes, but nudity and violence are shown in a different manner than other games. Those make Yandere Simulator be correctly perceived as way more offensive than any other game in Twitch.

Yandere Simulator features nudity and violence as integral part of a game solely about murdering and torturing high school students. They are not shown in a jokingly way or as part of the plot. Then, nudity in particular is featured in interactive scenes; not cut scenes in which the least offensive camera angles are shown. Lastly, the game has realistic 3d graphics.

For the general public those aspects make it way more offensive than any Senran Kagura, South Park or Doom game. All of those are silly games that show nudity and violence in a jokingly manner, with unrealistic looks and in cut scenes that don't show offensive camera angles. Viewers laugh.

It's like watching an action movie: objectively the violence is over the top, but it doesn't look offensive because of the way it is shown. The intention is not to disgust.

To be blunt with the comparison, I'll provide a couple of more examples. Be aware they are bit disgusting, but those might be necessary for some to understand that the context is everything.

Spoiler

While in a movie sometimes hundreds of villains are murdered, still those killings are nothing like Yandere Simulator in terms of crudeness. No blockbuster action movie features realistic-looking torture, of innocents, with a grim setting, from a first person perspective, including teen nudity so the scene is perceived as more crude, that lasts for hours if you want to. South Park doesn't do that. This game does.

Or think about really rough porn or hentai: if the core content is clearly non-appropriate in anything other than a very shady porn store, then adding a pixel of censorship won't make it any more suitable for screening it on TV. That's what Yandere Simulator did, adding merely a bit of blurring as a way to try to circumvent common sense. It's still crude teen nudity anyway, no matter the blur.

It's obvious the author of the game understands this deeply inside, despite playing the fool on the media. Or at least I hope he does.

Or if you haven't got the message yet, channels can show boobs on TV, as long as the intention and the context is deemed non-offensive. For example it can be shown in a playful manner, or as part of an education campaign. Instead, Yandere Simulator strives to be as offensive as possible; way more so than Postal 2.

But, the honest truth of the matter is that Twitch is a PRIVATE company, they are not the government. That means they can ban any damn game they please even if it is totally inconsistent with their stated policy. It's their site and they can ban and allow whichever games they choose. I don't think it takes a genius to understand why Twitch might not wish to be associated with this game or seek to have its content spread across its channel. They don't have to give him any reason and if I were them I wouldn't, he should be smart enough to figure it out on his own. But, considering the developer tried to blame its banning on "stupid SJWs" I'm not surprised he can't take a hint. Of course, the most laughable part of his whole rant was when he tried to explain how he covered up the teenage nudity. And, how maybe it wasn't enough but all they have to do is tell him that because according to him, "I don't care too much about the nudity." Yes, you just spent hours and weeks modeling, creating textures, animating the censor fog, and everything else to cover up the barest possible amounts of a teenage girl's body because "you don't care about the nudity being in your game."

Nah, fuck this game and keeps this trash off Twitch.

 

[Alandrus]

Watching over his video again. (I'm not even going to touch that SJW bullshit)

I feel like the game certainly deserves the ban. The problem in his arguments is he can't find a 1:1 analogy.

• My game has torture and killing, so does GTAV

GTAV isn't about torture. Sure, you had one mission as Trevor to torture a guy. But, the person you were torture was an adult and it was ONE mission. Most people streaming GTAV will probably never stream that mission.
This game seems to have a core mechanic around torturing under-aged girls, not adults.

• God of War has horrific violence

But again. It's not horrific violence against under aged girls.

I was going to keep typing out everything but it wraps back to the fact these are underaged girls and every thing he is pointing out in other games are single events. In South Park, you arent constantly giving Randy an abortion, or climbing up assholes.That's not a core mechanic, it's a singular event. It appears in simulator torture is a mechanic you can use constantly.
Even in South Park, to balance out all those fucked up cutscenes, even South Park knew you cant kill kids. Each kids you knock out and they run away screaming from your farts. In this game you are brutally murdering teenagers. All of his examples, you're killing The subject of the violence, torture, seduction, etc are adults.

I did a quick glance at some games people are comparing this to like Corpse Party, but Corpse Party is a 32bit game. Sure, it's violent but it's art style isn't graphic. It's the same reason I can walk into class wearing Picasso's "Le Rêve", no one will bat an eye. But, if I walked into class with a shirt with a photograph of a women doing what's depicted in the painting. I'd see myself expelled without a major.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

ya he's fucked once you're on some list its practically impossible to get off that list.

 

[Mandoric]

JESUS, Mother Mary, and GOD! Twitch has every right to ban that game just based off of the brief snippets he showed off in that video and from what I've read from some gaffers here. His points are also plain stupid.

First, his points about other games having similar elements.



So, one of the reasons it could be banned is not because it simply has any one of these elements but ALL of them combined to make a game that veers dangerously close to child pornography. Now, if avens description below is correct that just further explains why its banned.



But, the honest truth of the matter is that Twitch is a PRIVATE company, they are not the government. That means they can ban any damn game they please even if it is totally inconsistent with their stated policy. It's their site and they can ban and allow whichever games they choose. I don't think it takes a genius to understand why Twitch might not wish to be associated with this game or seek to have its content spread across its channel. They don't have to give him any reason and if I were them I wouldn't, he should be smart enough to figure it out on his own. But, considering the developer tried to blame its banning on "stupid SJWs" I'm not surprised he can't take a hint. Of course, the most laughable part of his whole rant was when he tried to explain how he covered up the teenage nudity. And, how maybe it wasn't enough but all they have to do is tell him that because according to him, "I don't care too much about the nudity." Yes, you just spent hours and weeks modeling, creating textures, animating the censor fog, and everything else to cover up the barest possible amounts of a teenage girl's body because "you don't care about the nudity being in your game."

Nah, fuck this game and keeps this trash off Twitch.

This description is, for the record, tamer than Friday the 13th, which I can easily still buy from the owners of Twitch.

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

Since people are trying to use GTA and South Park as some type of "gotcha" to prove a Double Standard, I'm just going to throw out there that of course Twitch is going to have exceptions to whatever criteria they use to ban games. The difference between those games and Yandere-Simulator is that they have big Publishers (Take-Two and Ubisoft respectively) to go up to bat for them. Yandere Simulator for all sakes and purposes, have a no-name Indie Dev.

As for why Yandere Simulator got banned in the first place, I'm probably going to have to go along with these two posts:

I don't know... the list of stuff this game had just kept growing:

1. Assaulting high school kids.
2. Murdering high school kids.
3. Sneaking panty shots of high school kids.
4. Nude high school kids with obscured genitalia and nipples.
5. Giant naked high school kids that was altered after the fact.

It really doesn't seem strange that someone in the Twitch moderation team reviewed this game and came to the conclusion that it should be banned.

unless all these high schoolers in this game just happen to be 18, we have a game here that allows the player to murder, torture, socially isolate and harass minors.

And yeah, no "it's not technically a high school" weak-ass deflection will cut it.

I do think it's shitty that Twitch's management won't contact him in any way though.I feel like if they are going to use a criteria to ban a game, it should be at least a common courtesy to listen to a dev if they want to make a petition for potentially overturning it.

 

[Offset]

I feel like the game certainly deserves the ban. The problem in his arguments is he can't find a 1:1 analogy.

• My game has torture and killing, so does GTAV

GTAV isn't about torture. Sure, you had one mission as Trevor to torture a guy. But, the person you were torture was an adult and it was ONE mission. Most people streaming GTAV will probably never stream that mission.
This game seems to have a core mechanic around torturing under-aged girls, not adults.

The more I read your messages (on this thread) the more it reminds me of what I was thinking about the game "Hatred" (idk, I find it similar on certain points) when people started talking about a possible Steam ban etc.

The purpose of a game clearly has a huge importance. Your example with GTA V is perfect and it shows how something meant satyrically can change everything.

 

[Hyperactivity]

It feels ironic to me (based on the linked interview) that he doesn't believe he's responsible for who's exposed to the themes of his game and then complains when a platform holder takes responsibility for content that's being streamed.

"It does make me somewhat uncomfortable, but I don’t really consider myself to be the one who is responsible for it".

Fine - so it that responsibility lies with the ones streaming the content of his game to under-age audiences (which he acknowledges as negative), why act shocked when they implement a ban? Seems weird to put the responsibility of who's exposed to the content onto streamers rather than himself and then complain when Twitch shields themselves from further controversy by banning the game.

I'll give YandereDev this: he's made it clear, again and again and again, that Ayano (protagonist) isn't supposed to be a good person, and shouldn't be considered a good person.

In any case, his issue is that Twitch hasn't communicated with him at all.

The SJW thing was stuuuuupid. But otherwise, your loss I guess?

 

[Azuran]

It's a game that was essentially spawned out of 4chan.

And the audience data was most likely pulled from an internet poll with zero verification as to the accuracy of the data entered.

If you think those 12 year old girls in the poll are actually 12 years old (or actually girls), I have a bridge I'm looking to sell.

It's not really that ludicrous considering PewDiePie is one of the biggest players of this game, and his audience skews towards the young side. I wouldn't be surprised if half of the interest on this game comes from him.

 

[saunderez]

Also, I was unaware that YanSim's fanbase skewed so young. Fucking 11? God, what a different time. When I was 11, I was playing my NES and watching Power Rangers.

/old

When I was 11 I was guessing the age gate questions in Leisure Suit Larry 3 because my asshole friend wouldn't tell me the code to skip them to automatically play it uncensored....

 

[Cheshire_Buddha]

When I was 11 I was guessing the age gate questions in Leisure Suit Larry 3 because my asshole friend wouldn't tell me the code to skip them to automatically play it uncensored....

Ahhh. The good ole days. My step-uncle gave me the collection on a PC back in the mid-90s. Defintely wasn't age appropriate.

I've been following the development of this game for a long time. Call me a sick bastard, but Hitman in a high school sounds like an awesome game to me and I'm not offended by the content whatsoever. Well, the panty shot stuff is pretty weird and could be easily cut.

I'd pay for a complete game.

 

[ZerOmegaG]

So, one of the reasons it could be banned is not because it simply has any one of these elements but ALL of them combined to make a game that veers dangerously close to child pornography.

Talk about insane hyperbole.

 

[kqedequalsvolvo]

I'll give YandereDev this: he's made it clear, again and again and again, that Ayano (protagonist) isn't supposed to be a good person, and shouldn't be considered a good person.

In any case, his issue is that Twitch hasn't communicated with him at all.

Wasn't the point I was intending with my quote. He was interviewed (sourced a few pages back) and it was raised that content of this type was being viewed by underage people - that made him "uncomfortable" and he saw that as a negative. But he argues that the responsibility for that lies with streamers/Youtube etc., not him as the creator of the content.

So I just find it a bit pathetic that he distances himself from responsibility of who consumes his content but then goes on this conspiratorial rant (with that awful sub-text laden shit about 'SJWs' and 'THOSE people') when a platform holder, the exact people he says are responsible for who consumes the content he created, draws a line in the sand about it. That's aside from the argument about whether it should be banned or not.

It seems like the argument is going in circles really. Personally, I still feel like Twitch have the right to interpret their Community Guidelines as a private company operating a closed platform. I also think there's a degree of inconsistency in what they decide is and is not acceptable on their platform - although, as this thread shows, that can be down to interpretation and Twitch have every right to make that interpretation whether we agree or not. I think the context and thematic focus of the game sets it well-beyond comparing it to GTA or South Park or GoW (which to me is layered in a sub-text of "it's because it's anime-style" which I don't think is true) - people have made the argument about that already so I won't repeat it. But you can't underplay that context and intent stuff - it's the basis of most ratings systems, it is seen as widely important.

As others have said though, even if the response is "we don't want your game here" Twitch should still acknowledge the guy. Although does seem a shame that the biggest thing at play here for many is basically a customer service issue.

 

[Lynd7]

I just watched his video, it seems pretty clear cut. Twitch should tell him why it has been banned and he should be allowed to change it if they want something toned down.

I don't really know anything about this game except for what was in his video, but it seems the violence etc is just a possible choice for a player, there is a spectrum of how you can approach your goals, some veer into being more dark.

I think at the end of the day, Twitch just needs to contact him or comment on why.

 

[AlexFlame116]

So apparently he got this today:

"Yander Simulator"?

EDIT: THIS IS FAKE! Yandere Dev just tweeted that out.

 

[sensui-tomo]

So apparently he got this today:

"Yander Simulator"?

For that first point, shouldn't DoA 3 extreme volleyball be banned then?
Game also has racial profanity? Now I kinda want to know what that means. Anyone here know what the words are?

 

[billythemule]

Twitch needs to address this problem and not just dig their head in the sand. If they have specific reasons for banning the game, they should just say so. Being non communicative only makes it harder for game developers to abide by their rules. Perhaps they are afraid of revealing their bias towards popular games and how they only follow their rules on a case by case basis.

Edit: wow, that was quick!

 

[AlexFlame116]

For that first point, shouldn't DoA 3 extreme volleyball be banned then?
Game also has racial profanity? Now I kinda want to know what that means. Anyone here know what the words are?

I'm just really confused.

 

[LordGorchnik]

So apparently he got this today:

"Yander Simulator"?

Here we go. This is just going to open up another can of worms on why other games are allowed then.

 

[Sephzilla]

So apparently he got this today:

"Yander Simulator"?

Couldn't all three of these apply to something like Grand Theft Auto, for example?

 

[R_thanatos]

"glorifying perverse japanese culture"

Lol

It's their choice of moderation but if that's not obvious that they are biased on the subject

 

[HandsomeCharles]

So apparently he got this today:

"Yander Simulator"?

Twitch absolutely should have given him this explanation months ago.

It's pretty clear cut, they don't want that kind of content on their platform. That's totally fine, but why the hell did it take them so long to say it?

 

[RRockman]

Twitch absolutely should have given him this explanation months ago.

It's pretty clear cut, they don't want that kind of content on their platform. That's totally fine, but why the hell did it take them so long to say it?

Because of the holes it opens up in their policy. I don't support either party but this just opened a whole new can of worms. I wanna see where this goes.