The42gamer
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Not really. All of the weapons in D3 are:
1. In a stage
2. In a side mission
3. Purchased from the shop
Stages aren't complex either so you should have no problem.
There's no dumb BS like "Wait in a stage for 20min"
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Yoko Taro (Nier Automata) Addresses the 2B butt controversy
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Not really. All of the weapons in D3 are:
1. In a stage
2. In a side mission
3. Purchased from the shop
Stages aren't complex either so you should have no problem.
It looks cool to many, but it's actually a sensor that they see through.
MetroidPrimeRib
Banned
beep boop emotions are prohibited
Ok. Will it tell me which ones have weapons remaining in them?
The42gamer
Banned
Yes. Each stage has a certain number of chests, hidden in vary obvious spots I might add, and you'll be told at the end of each if you missed a chest
How About No
Member
Wat the blindfold is the best part of her design lol
snow in jamaica
Member
Find every chest. There are three in like every stage and there's a counter. Fulfill most of Accord's requests too. Those are the ridiculous ones but nothing like Drakengard 1's portrait hell or 99999999 magic-immune enemies.
There'll almost certainly be a reason for the blindfolds.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
They are high tech visors
High tech visor.
snow in jamaica
Member
The blindfolds are a dehumanizing feature. Also Raiden.
snow in jamaica
Member
LAYERS
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
They are not robots they are secretly onions
There is a joke here I'll let you figure it out
-Mutsukki-
Member
Yeah that's where we'll just have to disagree at a base level. I don't think "progressive" is an inherently good quality as much as it's... a view. It certainly doesn't change my perception if something is deemed as progressive or not, nor will I never think that's an essential quality to, well, anything
That's pretty much your assumption. Seeing Yoko Taro's other works I'd say this is more something he wanted to do.
Pressure for progressive views in every game will just lead to half-assed efforts that are just made to save face. I haven't played TLOU but I never saw it being perceived as... auteur.
I think you're underestimating a lot the visual appeal of these characters but eh I don't think this is going anywhere
RustyNails
Member
Was it ever found out who photoshopped 2b's butthole in the first place? where did it originate from?
Audioboxer
Member
According to posts in here earlier some Twitter troll and then it was spread about and some mainstream media picked up on it.
Glass Rebel
Member
You just know one of them is gonna lose their blindfold for some good old Yoko Taro fuckery.
ACTUALLY THE ROBOTS WAS HUMANS ALL ALONG
ACTUALLY THE ROBOTS WAS HUMANS ALL ALONG
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Considering the lack of faults for being progressive yes being progressive is an inherently good quality. How is it not? How is better representation and equality not an inherent positive? The fuck...
That's fine and dandy, but there is an inherent pressure to add these things to appeal to otaku. There still is an inherent pressure to add these things due to execs who think appealing to the male gaze is the only way to make a profit, (where it actually does the opposite).
Maybe you should play the last of us then. Because it absolutely has a more auteur like feel compared to similar games, right down to the theme.
We've already seen the protagonist without the blindfold and she has regular eyes.
D3 was an awesome game, sadly it was made on such a shitty tiny budget that the enemy variety is really small, there are horrible performance problems, and the game doesn't look that great. It probably has one of my favorite hack and slash combat systems, honestly - Intoner Mode feels fucking amazing thematically and gameplay wise, and real time switching weapons made for really robust and satisfying gameplay situations with chaining spear combos/swords/etc together. Storywise, I actually preferred what it did to Nier, it was a lot more daring IMO. Drakengard's the series where Taro really goes all out and meta as fuck, Nier had a lot larger mainstream appeal and was more pedestrian in comparison.
Glass Rebel
Member
have we tho?
underneath the blindfold are more anuses
Glass Rebel
Member
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Well you could make the same argument both ways tbh. What if the creator didn't want to put in or alter his vision to be more progressive but execs forced him to. That's just as bad in the long run. This is super super super uncommon but honestly I don't like it on either side of the fence. just let the dudes make their stuff and put their vision out. But most are getting too scared of bad press or have been relying too much on focus groups and every little bit one direction or the other changed for the masses out of fear of not selling hurts the original vision of a product. Some things get lost and things become more of the same.
I love TLOU but I wouldn't consider it "auteur" at all.
killatopak
Member
M̶i̶n̶d̶ Ass blown.
Honestly, the genesis of this project is that the production guy behind Nier Automata, Takashi Taura, is a huge fucking Yoko Taro fanboy and went to him for making this game. They're all respecting his word for the creation of this title - Taro is not being pressured to appeal to otaku, and suits are not forcing him to do anything.
In fact, Taro's really happy with his team members doing what he wants them to do. He even said in an interview that it gives him more time to get drunk, and since he makes his best work when he's drunk, that's great for all of us.
I don't think bringing executives and focus testing into the conversation is relevant here. This is a passion project.
QisTopTier
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Gonna post screenshots discussing the game with said butt shots now, thanks /jk
Honestly, I just love the outfit. I think it's great looking
You can certainly tell who's read the demo thread and who hasn't.
Why not both
Yeah, I'm just saying because there are idiots who keep spouting that any sexualization, including 2B's design, must be thanks to pandering to otaku or whatever. News flash - this isn't a AAA game and it's not being headed by executive suits focus testing towards certain demographics. It's a team of Yoko Taro fans finally getting to work on a project that Takashi Taura asked Taro about making, with Yoshida making designs based on very loose descriptions from Taro.
killatopak
Member
Hahahahah
You wish.
But of course there' gonna be a lot of discussion with regards to the story since this is a yoko taro game. Just be prepared for the twists and endings.
So who is the auteur?
Druckmann? I don't see where the story is doing anything terribly unique.
Straley? Again, I don't see an overly unique vision to the game design and UC4 certainly doesn't feel unique from the previous entries. I can't see how you'd call him an auteur.
Just Naughty Dog in general? Maybe, I guess? But I think of auteur as a singular, personal thing.
The Last of Us is great because it just does everything better and more polished than most of it's competition, but it doesn't strike me as something that could only come from the mind of one person.
meltingparappa
Member
It's a fine game, but it's basically "The Road" with a bazillion videogame conventions like guns and stealth kills, mixed with a wikipedia entry on cordyceps.
Or at least, most would probably agree it's an incredibly conventional and unchallenging narrative compared to trying to understand the context of this:
Mr. Smiley
Member
The demo thread wasn't safe from this either. Thankfully we quelled that once more people got to play it outside of JP PSN.
Can't say the same for other sites.
This.
Here's what we know about Automata so far:
Red eyes, Cult of the Watchers/3 eyed Gemini. Very, very, possible Drakengard 1 connection thanks to this short shot in the character trailer.
It will be over, or well over, 25 hours
It has sidequests and it's possible just like the original that certain endings will require doing said sidequests
Boar riding is back
Boar DRIFTING is back:
Moose riding has been introduced
There are several abilities similar to the original Nier's, but are 'recreated' by 2B's pod so they're a weird future version of the magic.
There are multiple weapons, including lances, swords and fist weapons (as we've seen in trailers and the like) similar to the original Nier
There are side-scrolling segments like the original Nier
There are towns and townspeople, and the world is "open" with dungeon-like areas kind of like OoT and the original Nier.
And this:
http://rologeass.tumblr.com/post/73676488142/in-depth-with-drakengards-world-language-and
Drakengard 1, after Furiae
is reborn.
Nier, in the Black Scrawl.
Drakengard 3, on all the Utahime's seals in boss fights.
I wasn't implying there weren't posts like that, I was implying that wasn't the majority of the thread. There isn't a 60+ page thread of screenshots and art of 2b's ass.
Don't misunderstand, not saying there shouldn't be any at all. Past few weeks the threads on /v/ have been an absolute shitfest because all people do is talk about her ass, i find it annoying rather than offensive. I know threads on gaf are slighty more civil in some cases, so there's that.
I know everyone complains about this fight, but I legitimately loved it. The visuals are just so good
I'll be posting a lot of GIFs, just you wait.
How About No
Member
It also has one of the best songs in the game.
I loved how 'fuck you' this was.
I also love that Yoko Taro, when asked why that boss was so much 'fuck you,' simply said, 'Well, it's the final boss, isn't it?'
Allnamestakenlol
Member
This gave me a good, hearty laugh.