Dubbedinenglish
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There was a Youtuber for DCS who I liked who made some slick production on his videos...Then they did a bloopers vid where there was plenty of N-word and Jewish jokes. Quickly deleted.
JonTron
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I do understand people not being able to personally stomach an artist who advocates for something they find reprehensible, but the reality is that most people hold political stances someone on the other side of the fence finds reprehensible in some way.
I don't think I have one. I've never been actually fussed by the personal beliefs or political advocacy of artists. I do however reserve the right to eye roll when some developer or celebrity goes on a political rant on twitter that basically amounts to whining that as a general rule, most people don't particularly care about the political beliefs of artists. They'll play a game or watch a film regardless of whether they agree with the author's beliefs or the message of the work. It's quite possible to enjoy Lord of the Rings regardless of whether you're a Republican or a Monarchist.
This was just silly. This kind of polarizing nonsense is of no practical use to anyone. This was a "Milkshake duck" moment for Trump supporters, I suppose. This developer actively hated them for their perfectly legitimate choice of failed businessman candidate.
Quite a few indie game developers in America are Planned Parenthood supporters, as are quite a few people in the film business. That's their business. It's their money, and they can do whatever they want with it. I think a vast majority of anti-abortion people wouldn't refuse to play <insert random game here> if they discovered that the lead developer was pro-abortion. It's really the vocal minority who get up in arms over the political allegiances or advocacy of artists.
I do understand people not being able to personally stomach an artist who advocates for something they find reprehensible, but the reality is that most people hold political stances someone on the other side of the fence finds reprehensible in some way.
Nick Robinson. ._.
This developer actively hated them for their perfectly legitimate choice of failed businessman candidate.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1415751wait, what? what?! no! He's such a lovely soft gaming boy. What did he do? Nicholas!
Which side is which, though?One side involves decency towards fellow human beings, the other side does not. They're not morally equivalent.
Which side is which, though?
In the case of something like supporting Planned Parenthood, anti-abortion people see that as supporting an organization complicit in mass murder in the region of tens of millions, and being opposed to basic human rights. Pro-abortion people see things quite differently. They see supporting Planned Parenthood as supporting human rights. They see access to abortion as a fundamental human right. Both sides will argue the other side is "not morally equivalent" until they're blue in the face.
There are many other less hot button issues where both sides see themselves as being completely justified, and on the side of goodness and decency. People like to think of themselves as the good guys.
And he directed Letters from Iwo Jima, Invictus and Gran Torino, so I'd say you could rest easy on any concerns about his identity politics.wait, what? what?! no! He's such a lovely soft gaming boy. What did he do? Nicholas!
I'm with you guys on the JonTron thing.
I'm somewhat iffy about Clint Eastwood. Though he's just a "grumpy old rich man" republican, and not an all out white-supremacy republican ... That's something, right?
And he directed Letters from Iwo Jima, Invictus and Gran Torino, so I'd say you could rest easy on any concerns about his identity politics.
At least... that's what I like to tell myself to make me sleep better.
I don't think I have one. I've never been actually fussed by the personal beliefs or political advocacy of artists. I do however reserve the right to eye roll when some developer or celebrity goes on a political rant on twitter that basically amounts to whining that as a general rule, most people don't particularly care about the political beliefs of artists. They'll play a game or watch a film regardless of whether they agree with the author's beliefs or the message of the work. It's quite possible to enjoy Lord of the Rings regardless of whether you're a Republican or a Monarchist.
https://i.imgur.com/bKwGlGI.png
This was just silly. This kind of polarizing nonsense is of no practical use to anyone. This was a "Milkshake duck" moment for Trump supporters, I suppose. This developer actively hated them for their perfectly legitimate choice of failed businessman candidate.
Quite a few indie game developers in America are Planned Parenthood supporters, as are quite a few people in the film business. That's their business. It's their money, and they can do whatever they want with it. I think a vast majority of anti-abortion people wouldn't refuse to play <insert random game here> if they discovered that the lead developer was pro-abortion. It's really the vocal minority who get up in arms over the political allegiances or advocacy of artists.
I do understand people not being able to personally stomach an artist who advocates for something they find reprehensible, but the reality is that most people hold political stances someone on the other side of the fence finds reprehensible in some way.
Probably not well known, but I loved the commercials for Alexander Keith's beer (Canada) in the mid 2000s, label peeler/spilly drinker.
Then the actor was busted for child porn.
Because anti-abortion people will argue that a woman should bring a child to term, even if person was a victim of rape, or even if having a child will destroy her life. More often than not, it's a bunch of old white dudes making decisions for women based in religious codes that don't apply for all people.Which side is which, though?
In the case of something like supporting Planned Parenthood, anti-abortion people see that as supporting an organization complicit in mass murder in the region of tens of millions, and being opposed to basic human rights. Pro-abortion people see things quite differently. They see supporting Planned Parenthood as supporting human rights. They see access to abortion as a fundamental human right. Both sides will argue the other side is "not morally equivalent" until they're blue in the face.
There are many other less hot button issues where both sides see themselves as being completely justified, and on the side of goodness and decency. People like to think of themselves as the good guys.
Which side is which, though?
There are many other less hot button issues where both sides see themselves as being completely justified, and on the side of goodness and decency. People like to think of themselves as the good guys.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. The pro-abortion people is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights", and the anti-abortion side is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights". Each sees the other as trying to deny human beings their basic rights. And they're going to fight to preserve and advance human rights, as they understand them, until the cows come home.Only that one side has, you know, human rights and science on their side, while the others are fuckwits trying to reign over a woman's body and health in direct opposition to both. So no. Not both sides.
NopeThis is exactly what I'm talking about. The pro-abortion people is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights", and the anti-abortion side is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights". Each sees the other as trying to deny human beings their basic rights. And they're going to fight to preserve and advance human rights, as they understand them, until the cows come home.
The OP's example of the Last Night involved a debate around "modern feminism" and whether it's good or bad, or whether it has negative potential. As you might imagine, anti-abortion people do not see eye-to-eye with certain factions within feminism that are pro-abortion to the point of basing their identity around it and excluding anyone who isn't like-minded. If you say, "modern feminism" = "pro-abortion", then I'd say a lot of anti-abortion people would view "modern feminism" as "evil", or at least complicit in bad things. But this is very complicated. Because both sides see themselves as the good guys and both sides have pretty decent arguments at the end of the day.
The Nirvana album?Nevermind
This is exactly what I'm talking about. The pro-abortion people is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights", and the anti-abortion side is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights". Each sees the other as trying to deny human beings their basic rights. And they're going to fight to preserve and advance human rights, as they understand them, until the cows come home.
The OP's example of the Last Night involved a debate around "modern feminism" and whether it's good or bad, or whether it has negative potential. As you might imagine, anti-abortion people do not see eye-to-eye with certain factions within feminism that are pro-abortion to the point of basing their identity around it and excluding anyone who isn't like-minded. If you say, "modern feminism" = "pro-abortion", then I'd say a lot of anti-abortion people would view "modern feminism" as "evil", or at least complicit in bad things. But this is very complicated. Because both sides see themselves as the good guys and both sides have pretty decent arguments at the end of the day.
Jontron for me, laughed so much at his videos and then suddenly
This is exactly what I'm talking about. The pro-abortion people is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights", and the anti-abortion side is convinced that their position is the one rooted in facts and "human rights". Each sees the other as trying to deny human beings their basic rights. And they're going to fight to preserve and advance human rights, as they understand them, until the cows come home.
The OP's example of the Last Night involved a debate around "modern feminism" and whether it's good or bad, or whether it has negative potential. As you might imagine, anti-abortion people do not see eye-to-eye with certain factions within feminism that are pro-abortion to the point of basing their identity around it and excluding anyone who isn't like-minded. If you say, "modern feminism" = "pro-abortion", then I'd say a lot of anti-abortion people would view "modern feminism" as "evil", or at least complicit in bad things. But this is very complicated. Because both sides see themselves as the good guys and both sides have pretty decent arguments at the end of the day.
He hasn't put anything up for months, I thought.
JonTron is also mine. :/
This thread isn't specifically about JonTron, though. JonTron falls into a rather uneasy category. I don't think his views are really defensible. Some of the things JonTron has said are very unpleasant. He's also prone to completely misinterpreting data in order to draw an arguably racist conclusion. Dude is a wanker, to put it simply. JonTron isn't one of those cases where you can actually build an argument to support him. He's just plain wrong on a factual level.Instead of this horseshit "both sides are the same" act, why don't you express the views some of the "milkshake ducks" hold both here on GAF and in daily life and then let us know how that goes for you. "Fuck Trump" is not the same as "Fuck mixing gene pools". That's not particularly difficult to understand. Which view expressed by, say, JonTron is the equivalent of "I don't like that politician"?
Billy Corgan being a wacko
Jontron for me too. Used to think he was the funniest dude on Youtube.
Though in hindsight I should've known after the shit he pulled during the Sonic 2006 Game Grumps.
Shoulda jumped off the JonTron train right here, but I gave him the benefit of the doubt for some reason. Great job, Htown.
Rah. How was this not the end of him
Adam Baldwin. Adored him in Firefly. Then he got weird.
Doug Wildey, the guy who is responsible for Johnny Quest. I met him at a con. I had an earring in. He asked me if I was some sort of queer boy.
This thread isn't specifically about JonTron, though. JonTron falls into a rather uneasy category. I don't think his views are really defensible.
https://i.imgur.com/bKwGlGI.png
This was just silly. This kind of polarizing nonsense is of no practical use to anyone. This was a "Milkshake duck" moment for Trump supporters, I suppose. This developer actively hated them for their perfectly legitimate choice of failed businessman candidate.
I do understand people not being able to personally stomach an artist who advocates for something they find reprehensible, but the reality is that most people hold political stances someone on the other side of the fence finds reprehensible in some way.
Is Jim Carrey still on the antivaxxer bullshit? He hasn't talked about it in so long that I thought maybe he changed his opinion.Tom Cruise (scientology)
Gal Gadot (IDF support during Palestine bombing)
James Spader (ultra conservative nutcase)
Doug TenNapel (bigot)
Nick Robinson (sexual harassment)
Tim Soret (gamergate)
Woody Allen (sexual abuse)
Roman Polanski (pedophile)
Laci Green (transphobia)
Jim Carrey (anti vaxxer)
Frank Miller (bigot)
Jim Carrey Slams California School Vaccine Legislation: It's "Poisoning More Children"Is Jim Carrey still on the antivaxxer bullshit? He hasn't talked about it in so long that I thought maybe he changed his opinion.
Now and then I want to post that stopit.gif and then I remember that he is straight up KKK racist, like, not even a little bit racist or just a bit problematic, but full on white nationalist racist.
Does this include the awful view that abortion should be legal? A lot of people hold arguably reprehensible views. It's stupid to get worked up about them. That's what I was trying to get at. Donald Trump and his fans are just an example of a developer saying mean things about a political demographic.And then you went on to reiterate that both "sides" feel they are right, so everything is cool in the end. Milkshakes for all. Do you understand how odd and out place such an argument is in a thread about people saying heinous shit? You've yet to provide any example as to how the awful views expressed by those ostracized (the "milkshake ducks") are equivalent to a developer telling Trump supporters to go away. It looks a hell of a lot like a drive-by defense of Trump, those disparaged in the thread, and an opportunity to say that the other "side" is just as bad.
Adam Baldwin helped coin the whole Gamergate term, and was a known piece of shit well before that. There's a thread in Gaming right now about Nick Robinson being accused of sexual harassment.what stop it gif?
and what die Adam Baldwin and Nick Robinson do?
Adam Baldwin helped coin the whole Gamergate term, and was a known piece of shit well before that. There's a thread in Gaming right now about Nick Robinson being accused of sexual harassment.