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[FallingEdge]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...nway-park-seats-racism-american-baseball-sign

BOSTON -- A few fans seated above the Green Monster dropped down a sign that read "Racism is as American as baseball" during the fourth inning of the Red Sox's game against Oakland at Fenway Park on Wednesday night.

The sign was draped over the top middle of the Monster had a black background with white letters.

It was up for about one batter. There was a spattering of boos from the crowd as Red Sox security forced them to remove it and escorted the people from their seats.

Umpire Joe West and police were seen on the field discussing what happened.

yesh, not really sure of their message

MOD EDIT:

One of the four individuals involved told Red Sox security they were inspired by the Black Lives Matter movement.

http://www.masslive.com/redsox/index.ssf/2017/09/sign_reading_racism_is_as_amer.html

edit: tried to edit the title to include banner hung over Green Monster

update

https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/908146979636744193

Pete Abraham‏Verified account @PeteAbe

Also, regarding the sign, one of the people ejected said the group was inspired by Black Lives Matter. At this point, that is all we have.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

i mean

we've all taken history classes

 

[Machina]

I really don't know how to read into this.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

I really don't know how to read into this.

Haha. I'm sure it'll read differently to people depending on their worldview.

 

[jph139]

I mean, yeah.

I'm just not sure if those guys are saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.

 

[pigeon]

I can't tell if that's pro racism or anti racism.

 

[fredrancour]

I can't tell which direction this was intended from. Is it "stop kidding yourself, trump isn't a fluke," or "let's stop pretending we think racism is wrong?"

 

[Frozenprince]

Haha. I'm sure it'll read differently to people depending on their worldview.

Yep was listening to Boston sports radio and they are like "we are pretty sure it's a protest but I'm not gonna say for sure cause I could absolutely be wrong".

 

[jbug617]

I really don't know how to read into this.

Racism in America goes hand in hand just like Baseball was in America (Football is the #1 now).

 

[perfectchaos007]

I don't get it. Isn't baseball a british sport originally?

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

And doing that against Oakland? Joking me? Try that shit at the Coliseum and see what happens.

 

[norm9]

It's true. I would have waited till the game was decided though.

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

I can't tell if that's pro racism or anti racism.

.

 

[Dyle]

Baseball has only been big for like 150 years, racism in America is more than 500 years old, therefore Racism is more American than Baseball

Still a weird message to send though

 

[RS4-]

Expected a patriots game.

Still not sure which way this is leaning though.

 

[Phu]

If you're gonna do something like this maybe don't make it ambiguous.

 

[BriGuy]

I mean, yeah.

I'm just not sure if those guys are saying that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Why would you have doubts about their intent?

 

[Transistor]

I can't tell if that's pro racism or anti racism.

Yeah, I'm confused too....

 

[BlackDoomShadow]

Baseball is a relatively modern invention. Racism has been baked into the United States from the moment white people first stepped foot on the continent.

So in a way, racism is more American than baseball.

 

[Dishwalla]

I can't tell if that's pro racism or anti racism.

Yeah the fact that it's Boston fans...

 

[Derwind]

The truth can be uncomfortable.

 

[Machina]

Racism in America goes hand in hand just like Baseball was in America (Football is the #1 now).

That's stating the obvious, but what about

I can't tell if that's pro racism or anti racism.

 

[Yaboosh]

How is this ambiguous?

 

[rjinaz]

I'm going to assume they meant America is racist as shit, and they are right.

 

[Heroman]

America was built off of the death of million of American Indians.

 

[excelsiorlef]

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...nway-park-seats-racism-american-baseball-sign

yesh, not really sure of their message

edit: tried to edit the title to include banner hung over Green Monster

Their very very right message?

Pretty sure they are pointing out that yes America is racist as f

 

[Frozenprince]

If you're gonna do something like this maybe don't make it ambiguous.

The ambiguity leads me to believe this is them trying to get both sides worked up to turn this into a money maker for them.

 

[ponpo]

Woke.

I..i think,

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

pretty clear this is a damnation of America

not sure how it's ambiguous

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

Feels anti-racism to me but wow they should have been more clear.

 

[thepotatoman]

Also, is it pro baseball or anti baseball? Pro america or anti america?

 

[kamineko]

I'm going to assume they meant America is racist as shit, and they are right.

.

 

[jph139]

Why would you have doubts about their intent?

"Some white people at a baseball game" isn't the demographic I'd usually expect an anti-racist protest from.

 

[MugiwaraCole]

They're correct.

Whether or not these people are allies or racists themselves feels impossible to decipher until you realize that almost no racist ever actually considers himself a racist.

"Some white people at a baseball game" isn't the demographic I'd usually expect an anti-racist protest from.

It's exactly where you should protest, though. They're the ones who need to be made uncomfortable. Another reason I think these people might've had good intentions.

 

[Spine_Ripper]

Pretty sure it's anti racism. Not a single racist enjoys identifying as racist or being called racist.

 

[Luminaire]

I think by saying the word racism, it's anti-racism. If it were pro-racism, it'd likely say something else celebrating whites. Though I could be wrong.

 

[Not]

They're right, lol

Next time make a giant hanging banner that leaves no room for misinterpretation, though

 

[Switch Back 9]

The ambiguity leads me to believe this is them trying to get both sides worked up to turn this into a money maker for them.

Are you serious?

Pretty sure it's anti racism. Not a single racist enjoys identifying as racist or being called racist.

This is blatantly obvious. Only GAF would see this as some pro racist message or even question it.

 

[BigDes]

I don't get it. Isn't baseball a british sport originally?

If it was we gave it up pretty sharpish.

 

[Dash_Riprock]

i mean

we've all taken history classes

Yet it seems 99.99% percent of us flunked them.

 

[D4Danger]

The ambiguity leads me to believe this is them trying to get both sides worked up to turn this into a money maker for them.

that hot ambiguous racism dollar

it's clearly a protest banner designed to make people uncomfortable with the reality as stated.

 

[Yaboosh]

As a general rule, racists will fight to the death claiming they aren't racist, as they burn a cross in somebody's yard. This is not a message that would come from a racist.

Fucking KKK members will deny their own racism.

 

[Poor GRIMES]

pretty clear this is a damnation of America

not sure how it's ambiguous

Liberals: Yes! Racism is part of our roots and we need to do better!

Conservatives: Yes! Racism is part of our roots and that's okay, it's our tradition.

 

[BlackDoomShadow]

For everyone asking "How is this ambiguous" -- the big thing white supremacists are doing now is trying to appeal directly to the "Everyone is a little racist sometimes" white people crowd. They're basically saying "Everyone is racist so you might as well embrace it."

That's why it's unclear whether this banner (being held by three white people) is an embrace of racism or a statement about America's troubled history with racism.

 

[thepotatoman]

Pretty sure it's anti racism. Not a single racist enjoys identifying as racist or being called racist.

I think by saying the word racism, it's anti-racism. If it were pro-racism, it'd likely say something else celebrating whites. Though I could be wrong.

That's true.

 

[ZZMitch]

This is pretty clearly anti-racism and meant to be uncomfortable to read/see. Props.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Liberals: Yes! Racism is part of our roots and we need to do better!

Conservatives: Yes! Racism is part of our roots and that's okay, it's our tradition.

Racists and conservatives almost never identify themselves as racists

 

[excelsiorlef]

Hmmm didn't think it was ambiguous until reading down the thread.

 

[Anticol]

Well, thats true, obvious and irrefutable.

 

[pigeon]

Also, is it pro baseball or anti baseball? Pro america or anti america?

I actually almost said this too, but I decided doing it in the fourth inning at a baseball game suggests that they like baseball. Otherwise I would definitely have done it during the second inning so that I could get thrown out earlier.