They never had it running looking that good.
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Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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They never had it running looking that good.
Sorry to tell you, but making statements such as these when the game is not even out is moronic.
SpacePirate Ridley
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We have also a bunch of shots and videos when we can also see where it was upgraded and improved. But of course, the OP just wants to stir up shit, not open a real debate.
Funny seeing some of the screens in the OP (like the tower one) where its obvious is for artistic reasons and not graphical downgrade (because what the fuck would change the FPS in the change of a 3d model like that).
Yeah, lets throw to the bin that work, just for shits and giggles.
Funny seeing some of the screens in the OP (like the tower one) where its obvious is for artistic reasons and not graphical downgrade (because what the fuck would change the FPS in the change of a 3d model like that).
Yeah, lets throw to the bin that work, just for shits and giggles.
JudgmentJay
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Yeah, I'm not surprised. The original reveal graphics were too good. I knew they wouldn't be able to maintain that level of graphics given how big they wanted the game to be. Then there's the console vs PC disparity they have to worry about. If I put my tinfoil hat on for a moment, I wouldn't be surprised if MS/Sony pressured them to make the differences smaller. It's disappointing, but it's not going to stop it from being an amazing game.
RandomSeed
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Why not wait a couple more days until the reviews and videos start flooding in with more detailed information on graphics settings? We'll get to see what's going on well before release, so there is no need to freak out over random screenshots that could be on low-med-high-ultra for all we know. If you feel like you're being lied to, I'm sorry, that sucks, but they can't make you buy the game. If people don't know by now that preordering is risky (and almost always pointless), oh well.
It might "look great" but downgrades still deserve to be called out, especially when the developer claims one didn't happen.
sure because reading and watching actual gameplay footage are the same thing. right.
MatrixMan.EXE
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What?
Whether or not the graphics were downgraded or not, these screenshots are not even remotely similar areas or shots.
I love it how the people doing comparisons, ostensibly about graphics, don't really care about representing good data.
Just look at these screenshots. They're compressed to shit and have little metadata appended to them, where were they captured, on what system and when?
thequickandthedead
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Why are people upset over this simply being pointed out? No one is saying the game is bad.
djplaeskool
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C'mon people.
Much of it still looks outstanding, but In the end, the game still has to run, and concessions are inevitable.
A GTX 980 is more than capable of that scene at a great framerate.
I don't understand this mind set.
How does it not suck that we are getting a lesser product? Even if the final thing is still good, it could have been much better.
And that sucks.
Mass_Pincup
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I thought you didn't give a fuck?
it gets funnier when most of those people have witcher 3 avatars
because watching and playing is pretty much the same thing too right?
Piercedveil
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I don't doubt that.
Primethius
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Christ, the first page is full of shit posts.
Apparently CDPr is immune to any such discussion despite the huge Dark Souls/Watch Dogs stuff.
Apparently CDPr is immune to any such discussion despite the huge Dark Souls/Watch Dogs stuff.
RazorbackDB
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I don't know why any developer should be called out on downgrading a game during development, they don't do it just because, optimization, scalability, resource management, etc. it's part of the development process, you can't even argue is false ardvertisement, showing bullshots just before release is one thing but we have been seeing the supposedly downgraded footage for months, almost a year.
Kssio_Aug
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Is there any impression about the combat gameplay already? I never bought Withcer 2 cause I've heard its combat gameplay is pretty damn bad, I'd like to know how much improved Witcher 3 is in that regard. For a game that may be quite long and with so many battles (that actually looks cool) I would be very disappointed if the combat was flimsy or unpleasant.
thewhitehawk
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This has been evident for a while now, no?
I think we should wait for the PC version to come to make serious comparison because a lot of these comparison shots are taken at different times of the day. While it is possible to see a difference in the quality of some assets lighting makes a large difference in how certain areas look and feel. In most early promotional shots, they chose the best lighting to make the images appealing and most of these recent images are not.
Regardless of how the final game turns out to be I don't think anyone should expect a game with a map as large as the Witcher 3's to not have some rough edges here and there.
It's still a fairly impressive game that will probably be one of the best, if not the very best of this year, but yes, it's a shame that some assets were clearly downgraded.
I think we should wait for the PC version to come to make serious comparison because a lot of these comparison shots are taken at different times of the day. While it is possible to see a difference in the quality of some assets lighting makes a large difference in how certain areas look and feel. In most early promotional shots, they chose the best lighting to make the images appealing and most of these recent images are not.
Regardless of how the final game turns out to be I don't think anyone should expect a game with a map as large as the Witcher 3's to not have some rough edges here and there.
It's still a fairly impressive game that will probably be one of the best, if not the very best of this year, but yes, it's a shame that some assets were clearly downgraded.
Just annoyed with people saying, "well yeah they had to optimize!"
If it looked that good (at gameplay fps), then they had it ridiculously optimized a year ago.
CDPR is basically untouchable for some reason. Just take one look at the GMG vs CDPR code thread.
kinda. you can pretty much tell if a game is up to your taste by watching it. it's very strange if you can't.
It's crazy to expect actual gameplay footage to match early promotional footage. Developers always bite off more than they can chew with those trailers because they want to make the biggest splash possible. This always happens. It would be great if it didn't, but it always does.
I'm still looking forward to Witcher 3. Sure, it doesn't look as good as it once did, but I never expected it to.
I'm still looking forward to Witcher 3. Sure, it doesn't look as good as it once did, but I never expected it to.
I swear, gamers these days are the most impossible to please bunch I have ever seen. Jesus Christ. No matter how great something is, if it is not exactly like what they were expecting down to every corner, crack, crevice, rock, puddle and blade of grass, then it's another shit storm.
I do want to talk about what I mean by "not everything" getting downgraded. I've been saying the game's been scaled down graphically for some time, but there has been some impressive stuff. Also, not every old screenshot looked great:
2013:
There's also some beautiful stuff from current footage, if you know where to look:
May 2015:
The plants on the ground don't look super hot, but there's so much going on here that it looks brilliant. The monster's hair (with hairworks) and the forest are lovely.
2013:
There's also some beautiful stuff from current footage, if you know where to look:
May 2015:
The plants on the ground don't look super hot, but there's so much going on here that it looks brilliant. The monster's hair (with hairworks) and the forest are lovely.
Projectjustice
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Good thing Witcher 3 has a lot More going for it than just graphics.
Charlotte McKinney, apparently.
1st Course
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Yup. Either that trailer was bullshit or game has been downgraded.
JordanN
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If they wanted people to not buy a PC version, I'm sure they would have just outright cancelled it.
True.
Mass_Pincup
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Funny enough, while looking for the Watch_Dogs and Darks Souls 2 threads, found this old piece
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=981194
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=981194
I do want to talk about what I mean by "not everything" getting downgraded. I've been saying the game's been scaled down graphically for some time, but there has been some impressive stuff. Also, not every old screenshot looked great:
2013:
There's also some beautiful stuff from current footage, if you know where to look:
May 2015:
Yes, that actually looks better.
Isn't it normal for devs to start with more advanced graphical assets and a slideshow framerate, and tweak until they get the balance they want? I'm honestly asking because I don't know how development works.
The game will be beautiful. The internet is becoming a cesspool of picky whining bitches.
The game will be beautiful. The internet is becoming a cesspool of picky whining bitches.
paragonpro
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Something to take into account with every game...GAMES WILL BE DOWNGRADED. It's just the reality, a publisher is never going to show how a game will actually look at a trade show when they can pretty it up with a super high end pc,
hobblygobbly
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Developers never promised that what you see the years prior is what you'll particularly get, things don't stay the same, didn't the game triple in scope and detail as well? Occlusion culling + LoD can only go so far. The downgraded graphics are obvious but still looks great but you're not being mislead, you either buy it or you don't. There's been a lot of marketing material for this game with varying graphical fidelity, you either buy what you see the last year or so or you don't if you're not satisfied, it's that simple. You don't have to give them a free pass if you feel strongly about it but don't act as if you're entitled to this?
I don't. I'm laughing my ass off at the people that do, because they're screaming bloody murder about fucking nothing. Hell, I'm getting PS4 version, mods aren't even part of the picture.
SliceSabre
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I'm not seeing a problem here.
Like I'm not being a smart ass I honestly do not see the problem here.
Like I'm not being a smart ass I honestly do not see the problem here.
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