MikeE21286
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DMczaf said:
that's cool...or if it were a DLC code in Dead Space 2 LE I'd be there.
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Dead Space Extraction coming to XBLA/PSN?
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that's cool...or if it were a DLC code in Dead Space 2 LE I'd be there.
EmCeeGramr
Member
TheSeks said:
That's what I would call "weird."
Reginald P. Linux
Banned
PounchEnvy said:
HD, Achievements and other additions like online co-op and 5.1 sound might make it a big update over the Wii version. Nothing funny about that.
DidntKnowJack
Member
I'd gladly buy it for $15. It'll probably be 20, though.
lowrider007
Licorice-flavoured booze?
Want !, this better be for Arc.
ShockingAlberto
Member
yesReginald P. Linux said:
they're going to do all that
also EA will hire several Irish women that look like the female lead to go to your house and massage you while you play
definitive version confirmed
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAceBandage said:
"Wii owners" didn't want this game because the demographic that would even buy such a thing doesn't exist actively in the userbase. The "backlash" was only from butthurt Wii fans who wanted this game to be something it was not. Meanwhile the actual game was highly praised.AceBandage said:
I'm not sure why you are even trying to evade this as you're as transparent as a window. Once the game failed to be what you wanted (or rather what you wanted to brag about in system warz) and once it failed to sell enough, you essentially tossed away and tried to make various excuses for it such as "no one would ever want it" and a hypothetical "backlash". And now that the game may possibly be ported elsewhere, you've kicked your excuses into hyperdrive.
EmCeeGramr said:
I guess playing games that didn't have lightgun support at the time has made me tolerant to it. Yes, it's a little weird, but it's passable.
Do I really want to buy a Guncon 3/whatever lightgun if any on the 360? Hell yes if HotD 2+3 and HotD: Overkill came out on them. Shit, I'd buy a Guncon 3 for Time Crisis 4 (now $15 at Gamestop), but the fact of the matter is: HDTVs aren't good for lightgun games with a lightgun and this is the only way they're going to play outside some sensor bar like the Wii.
I'd buy it, probably not for $15, but hell it's Dead Space and from what I hear isn't bad.
fry - unused account
Neo Member
Jeff Green just tweeted about seeing an unannounced natal game that "re-opened his mind" to the device. I hope this is it but I doubt it.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
I hate being a Wii fan sometimes
AceBandage
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
If by butthurt Wii owners, you mean the people that are tired of third parties treating the system like shit and giving it spin offs and crap downs, sure.
grandjedi6 said:
Oh yeah, I'm just so active in the system wars threads.
I can't stop posting about how OMG! TEH WII AM TEH BESTEST! ALL OTHER SYSTEMS AM TEH SUCK!
I may have a personal preference for the Wii this generation, but I don't give a damn about your system wars. I'm just tired of third parties not even getting basic things like people aren't big on spin off light gun games.
grandjedi6 said:
what the fuck are you talking about?
the demographic exists, although it is pretty small. that said silent hill managed to sell 50k in the first month of npd through word of mouth aloneand that wasn't even exclusive. re4 did ok too as did the first resident evil lightgun game, although people actually know what resident evil is
initially there was quite a bit of excitement surrounding extraction, excitement that rightly dissapeared once it was revealed to be the short, outsourced, overpriced, uninteractive, rehashed arcade game spinoff that it is. dont paint this as some minor thing. practically everyone who was aware of this game's existence dismissed it outright as soon as the reality of it became apparent
Lazy vs Crazy
Member
There's about thirty five reasons why.Aaron Strife said:
Also! The rail shooter market is not saturated on the those platforms. So, 36 reasons!
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Sipowicz said:
Jesus, jerk it with sandpaper. The game is fucking awesome and only Wii fans who wanted something that isn't logical to put on the system got angry.
Extraction's fault was that it got piss poor advertising. Stop thinking the Wii hardcore base is this all powerful proverbial FuckForce.
Rush2thestart
Member
DeathbyVolcano said:
How is it not logical to want Dead Space 1 on the Wii? They had an Xbox 1 version running at some point!
The audience for lightgun games is not on Wii, btw. It's not on PS3/360 either. Is there an audience for a RE4 style game like Dead Space? Well a 4 year old port that sold a million copies says yes. Note: I am aware RE is a big franchise, but that doesn't mean a Dead Space port would do poorly.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
Honestly now, where does your perception of the Wii userbase come from? The percent of Wii owners who care even a little about such a thing, basically boils down to the thousand or so fans who already post on video game forums.AceBandage said:
You're a nonstop system warz machine. Its just that in your case, rather than Sony or Microsoft being "the enemy", its anyone who doesn't fully adhere to Nintendo 100%.AceBandage said:
DeathbyVolcano said:
it fucking isn't awesome
it is a fucking arcade game spinoff made by a shovelware developer. the reitcule takes up half the screen, the levels are way too long and mostly consist of uniteractive cutscenes between encounters. i would have been PISSED if i had bought the game instead of renting it. it is a complete ripoff that pales in comparison to the full game, and that is the point
the shittier developers/publishers on the wii, particularly incompetent ones like EA have this view that you can sell half-assed, watered down shit for 4 times what it's worth and people who own a Wii should NAY must buy it! fuck them and fuck this overpriced shit. everyone should wait for the better version on XBLA/PSN and pay the 15 dollars it's actually worth instead of forking out for the pointless, overpriced wii version
XxBigP123xX
Member
I'd buy it on PSN.
Reginald P. Linux
Banned
Rush2thestart said:
I'm not completely familiar with the sales numbers, but didn't the light gun Resident Evil game do really well on Wii? Doesn't this show there's an audience for lightgun games on Wii?
AceBandage
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
From common sense. Light gun shooters have never been big sellers, and expecting an outsourced spin off light gun shooter to do well was ignorance on EA's part.
And the fact that they didn't even bother to promote it properly was just icing on the cake.
grandjedi6 said:
Also incorrect.
I don't give a shit if people don't like Nintendo or what they are doing.
However, I can not stand the sheer arrogance and ignorance that third parties have displayed this generation.
It's simply amazing that they think they can get away with the shit they put out.
Ubisoft had the balls to complain about their Petz series not selling well on the Wii and DS.
Classic_Gs
Member
If the port will work with Sony's Motion Controller, then count me in.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
RE4 Wii does not apply anymore. That train has departed. The users who bought RE4 have long since bailed for greener pastures or were never going to buy additional games anyway. Indeed, it seems to be a trend on the Wii for the userbase to ignore sequels to games as they've gone ahead and 'gotten their fill' from just the first one or two games. Hence the gradual death of the minigame genre and now, apparently, the lightgun genre. A RE4-2/6/whatever would probably never reach the sales of RE4 wii, let alone a Dead Space styled one.Rush2thestart said:
Reginald P. Linux said:
The first, yes. The second one, not really.
Yes and no. HotD 2+3/Overkill sold well. Biohazard: Umbrella Archives sold well. Darkside is hit-and-miss in sells. Dead Space flopped (it sold, but way below what EA wanted). Nerf games, I dunno.
There's a market, but it's pretty picky and not a sure thing.
BurritoBushido
Member
I wish more companies might do this. I think A Boy and His Blob could benefit from this kind of thinking as well.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
And yet titles such as Umbrella Chronicles, House of the Dead and Ghost Squad have done pretty well on the Wii, no?AceBandage said:
And I'm not sure how that is a defense of your statement that DSE failed because of " people that are tired of third parties treating the system like shit", as if most users were even aware of such a situation.
Yes but you seem to define "sheer arrogance and ignorance" on behalf 3rd parties as simply them not doing everything YOU want to happen. Hell, you even had the gall to suggest that Nibris knows more about the industry than Capcom, for no reason other than because Nibris's gimmick is to appeal to fanboy's pipe dreams.AceBandage said:
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
In conclusion: wahhhhhhhhhh
rollingstart
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
yeah, the people I know irl that were both gamers before the wii and bought a wii have migrated to other systems because they just care about playing video games. My own cousin was way into the Wii for a year or so, and now he's big into PC gaming; smart lad, that one.
and I would have totally bought Dead Space Wii if it was $15 and I didn't know that there is a 360/PS3 version on the way. Lowest I've seen it for was $25, and that was an amazon christmas sale.
AceBandage
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
UC did well because people thought it was a new RE game. Didn't work so well the second time around though, did it?
HotD also wasn't a spin off and was MEANT to be a light gun game, so was GR. So those are moot to the point.
Considering how third party games, regardless of genre or quality including the "casual" games are failing left and right, it seems like most users are indeed aware.
grandjedi6 said:
It has nothing to do with what I want, but rather what should happen.
Third parties started out on the console with quick ports and low quality exclusives, and never moved past that, and they expected to find success on the console simply because of the user base size.
I'd call that arrogance and ignorance.
speculawyer
Member
Smart way to recoup the investment.
timetokill
Banned
Extraction was fun, I'd just hope they put this on Steam or something as well because I'm not buying a 360/PS3 version of Dead Space 2. PC version all the way!
Well... then again I have it on Wii and I really don't care about seeing it in HD. It was a fun experience though, and I think a must-have for Dead Space fans.
Hope more people get to experience it. Really like some of the characters they used in Extraction, like Lexine.
Well... then again I have it on Wii and I really don't care about seeing it in HD. It was a fun experience though, and I think a must-have for Dead Space fans.
Hope more people get to experience it. Really like some of the characters they used in Extraction, like Lexine.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Did not fucking pay 50 bucks for this on wii...
5 dollar steam version please.
5 dollar steam version please.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I will buy Extraction if it comes out for the XBLA or even a 360 retail version! This is awesome news.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Someone post the Dead Space pics from the Dolphin thread.
It's like they had it planned out all along.
It's like they had it planned out all along.
WickedCobra03
Member
Did it really have a MSRP of $50 on release? Wow, I bought it for $30 like a month after release. Awesome game!Anony said:
mugurumakensei
Member
EA: We expect Wii owners to pay $50 for our title developed on a small budget.
EA: We understand the needs and desires of the hardcore market on PS3 and the 360. As such, we know the audience would be unwilling to play full price for our budget game. Therefore, we will do the right thing and release at $15 as the market desires.
EA: We understand the needs and desires of the hardcore market on PS3 and the 360. As such, we know the audience would be unwilling to play full price for our budget game. Therefore, we will do the right thing and release at $15 as the market desires.
grandjedi6
Master of the Google Search
AceBandage said:
So you think that UC sold well because it "tricked" people into somehow thinking it was a regular Resident Evil game and that DC did poorly because users refused to be "tricked" this time? Where the hell do you get such an idea? What about all the other RE spinoffs on the PS2? Were those also cases of users being "tricked" emasse? I highly doubt that the far majority of gamers who bought the game somehow didn't know that it was a lightgun game. Hell, it was on the back of the fucking boxart.
And somehow Dead Space Extraction wasn't "meant" to be a lightgun game despite being built up as such? And this is what caused it to sell poorly? What?!
Your last statement is the most disingenuous as you'll undoubtedly be defending the Wii's 3rd party sales by the end of the week.
What an arrogant and ignorant comment. How ironic.AceBandage said:
Really AceBandage, can you tone down on the whinning, just a little? You post alot in Wii related topics and yet its always just you complaining about this publisher's stance on the Wii, or about his journalists comments or even just in general. Thus we come to a situation where almost every Nintendo related thread on this forum has multiple whinny posts from you over some random indignation of yours. It makes you such an unbearable poster overall.
Reginald P. Linux said:
The fact of whether there's a market or not is irrelevant. The fact of the matter is that not one but three companies tried to pass a light gun game as "big hardcore support," and that is downright insulting.
mugurumakensei said:
This is also insulting to the Wii audience.
timetokill said:
Agreed.
timetokill said:
That was the problem. Dead Space isn't as popular as EA wants it to be, and was an unknown brand on the Wii. I think they were banking on big Dead Space fans to buy it, but they either didn't have a Wii, didn't care about side-stories, or just downright didn't want a $50 rails-shooter.
mugurumakensei
Member
grandjedi6 said:
Didn't the RE spinoffs on the RE do abysmally compared to Umbrella Chronicles after Outbreak 1? Didn't Capcom state there would be hardcore titles for the Wii if they passed the "test"(bought umbrella chronicles) which only led to a second rail-shooter rather than what most where clamoring for?
AceBandage
Banned
grandjedi6 said:
Well, sorry for having an opinion on a message board. I forgot that they were taboo.
Look, I'm hardly always whining, it's mostly just when third parties or journalists act like idiots, which happens to be constantly.
And if you really find me that annoying, you are more than free to ignore me and not respond to me anymore, I certainly won't lose any sleep over it.