The Last One
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I'm really wondering what kind of status Magic we will got in the game. Haste? Protect? Shell? Slow?
Haste will be amazing in this kind of game.
Haste will be amazing in this kind of game.
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New Final Fantasy XV Screenshots
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NoctisVsStar
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That foliage isn't possible on consoles.
I agree with you to an extent but it's meant to be played in a different manner ( positioning and such ) but expecting twitch responsiveness compared to DMC/KH is the wrong way to approach it ( not implying you said that just talking in general ) while the game is a "action" rpg it's doesnt really go full tilt on the action and plays differently. That's where issues arise with certain players.
chozen
Member
Yeah looks like PC there is a certain lighting you can see on the hair around the edges that makes a large difference. Even the foliage looked way better than their DLCs video or the IGN battle footage.
Also
artsi
Member
Monsters / entities I can see from that debug screen if I squint:
and others I can't make out.
Note: above list seems to be only about 1/8 or 1/9 of the total list (looking at the scroll bar) in that category and there's also other categories, so plenty of things to kill
The region they're in seems to be Cleigne.
Garula
Dual Horn
Coeurl
Mushufushu
Mesmerize
Bicorn
Gigantoad
Alligator
Sahagin
Catoblepas
Kujata
Black Chocobo
Cockatrice
Dual Horn
Coeurl
Mushufushu
Mesmerize
Bicorn
Gigantoad
Alligator
Sahagin
Catoblepas
Kujata
Black Chocobo
Cockatrice
and others I can't make out.
Note: above list seems to be only about 1/8 or 1/9 of the total list (looking at the scroll bar) in that category and there's also other categories, so plenty of things to kill
The region they're in seems to be Cleigne.
The Last One
Member
He has firagas equipped in this image. I wonder if we'll have firaja, blizzaja, thundaja and etc.
chozen
Member
If they are in, I imagine them being rarely used but extremely powerful and uses up a lot of magic resources.
Also can we get a clearer image of that pic of the monster list, imagine how scary of a fuck up it would be if this guy summoned one of the bosses or even the final boss.
They're creating a game targeting console specs, there's no high-end PC target so technically the final console builds should be able to look like this. They're just using their debug PC dev environment to demonstrate things quickly.
We've seen what their PC build looked like before.
Now a near final build with LOD improvements and added AO to grass which makes a nice difference.
NoctisVsStar
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Feel like playing platinum demo now
I just find foliage so much spread out in the tech footage. I'm not expecting it to be like that in the final game but I'll be happy if that's the case. Perhaps you're right that the final build will look close to that.
I just find foliage so much spread out in the tech footage. I'm not expecting it to be like that in the final game but I'll be happy if that's the case. Perhaps you're right that the final build will look close to that.
chozen
Member
I want to believe it but that looks wayyy too similar to the 2014 footage.
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Actually you might be right, if this DLC footage was taken from PS4 footage then what we saw right there is probably what we are getting
The Last One
Member
I actually have so many questions regarding Magic in this game. Will some monsters be able to use Magic like the previous FFs? What is the Royal ring Magic about? What kind of element damage Titan does if we don't have an earth element in the game? What about the support Magic like cure, protect, haste and etc how do you get them?
I wish they talked more about this.
Tatsumi Oga
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For sure Neo and Scorpio are going to be able to handle that though. I just hope the current console versions will have a clean IQ. But that would mean a significant improvement over the two demos.
Why have they still not announced it for PC though?
Why have they still not announced it for PC though?
Blackleg-sanji1
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Man I wish they could have updated episode duscae with platinum demos gameplay
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
That's really what they should have done. ED is waaaaaaaaaaaay more representative of the actual game than Platinum Demo. I still don't know what they were thinking with releasing that.
They're creating a game targeting console specs, there's no high-end PC target so technically the final console builds should be able to look like this. They're just using their debug PC dev environment to demonstrate things quickly.
We've seen what their PC build looked like before.
Now a near final build with LOD improvements and added AO to grass which makes a nice difference.
It's nice to want things.
Made a new thread with all of the new Siggraph stuff.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1253451
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1253451
NoctisVsStar
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remember that you can get the toad spell from a enemy so I'm sure enemies will use magic. However, when it comes to other type of magic idk for all we know royal magic is just stuff related to the phantom swords. I'm not expecting a lot of magic since Tabata has been clear on the types that will be present.. But there is some hope with the Royal magic.
Because when they do a PC version it won't be a simple port, according to them features that was originally scrapped will be done for the PC version .
BossDarkseid
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For the same reason they've repeatedly said it'll come later?
They want to finish the console versions and look at what higher end features they could implement into a PC version before announcing it rather than being "It'll come to PC at some point" then not work on it for another 6 months etc. They've basically all but said it'd come to PC i think so, yeah....
Will be quite interesting to see it when it's announced etc. If they had announced it I would probably wait but as it is....console then PC versoin later on providing i don't hate it.
ArchedThunder
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That foliage isn't even very dense, it looks very possible for the consoles to have it.
Didn't Duscea have denser foliage?
They sure as hell aren't releasing the thing above. Platinum Demo looked better than that.
NoctisVsStar
Member
It looks 2014 to me let me see if I can find footage to compare.
More pics here
http://gearnuke.com/final-fantasy-xv-target-build-vs-ps4-demo-comparison-shows-engine-scales-consoles/
chozen
Member
It's odd how in the PC version the water has bad reflections and less trees in the distance then the PS4 version, PS4 also has reflections in water
But what did they do to the grass?
NoctisVsStar
Member
I mean things could've changed Duscae Demo was a long time ago. So the engine has matured since then, that was two years ago.
Well the engine was still in development, so many features, like the reflections, probably weren't fully implemented or optimized.
Also in the 2014 footage the level design is unfinished, the entire Behemoth ruin is missing as well as the chocobo post.
And for the grass they simplified the mesh, most likely for performance reasons.
But the grass in the new footage from siggraph is basically the same as in ED, just with added AO and improved shading. I don't see why it shouldn't look like that on console.
Draw distance and density in 2014 is way more than what we see in the Siggraph demo though. Plus 2014 grass had the more expensive cascaded shadow maps and not contact AO.
2014 with the grass shadow maps.
MagnaderAlpha
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FFXIII Adamantoise's/Guis.
ArchedThunder
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RIP Grass shadows, maybe you will be able to grace us with your beauty on PC/Neo/Scorpio.
ScherzoPrime
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It looks 2014 to me let me see if I can find footage to compare.
More pics here
http://gearnuke.com/final-fantasy-xv-target-build-vs-ps4-demo-comparison-shows-engine-scales-consoles/
Did they remove a water rippling effect from the water reflection, or was the target just blurrier
Target was blurrier.
ScherzoPrime
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Ah that does male sense.
Still, haven't they scaled back water simulation from the targets? I remember in Duscae it just painted a generic splashing animation around the character, not the characters interacting with the actual body of water.
Your underestimating the PS4 and XB1.
At most we're have dynamic res, i think most of the effects on display will stay the same. And if your still concerned, the NEO version should be right around the corner.
I hope the NEO version's upgrades becomes the basis for the PC version, or the NEO version is updated along with their work on the PC version to take advantage of the graphical upticks.
I think another issue with the Platinum Demo was the control layout. I played Duscae recently and having the attack button mapped to X and the dodge button mapped to L1 is just so much more intuitive than having them mapped to O and Square.
Thisss. I even changed the layout in Zestiria when I played it recently to have Guard on L1 instead of Square (originally it was the same as Duscae - Attack on Circle and Guard on Square).
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
What I am wondering is, will there be a new version for Scorpio and Neo next year? Because if that does happen, those will be exclusive to the two consoles and that is not how it's going to work according to MS and Sony. So I guess we'll just start FFXV next year on our new consoles and it will be at a higher resolution hopefully but not much else probably?
The changes are only allowed to be cosmetic with no gameplay locked behind the patches, yeah. So expect a resolution bump and a smoother framerate.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Wtf!? We got dungeon puzzles boys!!
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
AHHHHHHHHHH
So cool! I actually hoped the characters would also react somehow when other party members walk into them or stand near, like putting their hand on their shoulders or touching their arm so the other takes a step to the side or something like that. FFXV already has impressive little details like that when it comes to dynamic animations, but I noticed that the guys still bump into each other without reacting.
Is the Environment talk livestreamed somewhere, right now?
Go_Ly_Dow
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I'm feeling very optimistic, but the lack of transparency with to how the console builds will hold up to the PC dev is a buzz kill!
I think if the console version was close to these PC shots then they would have shown that off by now. Since they haven't I'm still expecting graphical features (like foliage, shadows etc..) to be paired back from these recent images.
I think if the console version was close to these PC shots then they would have shown that off by now. Since they haven't I'm still expecting graphical features (like foliage, shadows etc..) to be paired back from these recent images.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Yeah, that's really the only thing worrying me right now.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Damn...now that's unfortunete. Especially when we eventually get to see the PC version. So Scorpio and Neo won't be bringing richer graphical fidelity....bummer. On the other hand, by the time those systems release most of us either will have finished the game already or maybe the game actually bombs. Who knows.
artsi
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They can have better graphics. But 1080p / 30fps is minimum for Neo, if they're able to add something else in addition they can do it.
Where did you get that idea? Yeah, there will be graphical fidelity increases, its not limited to FPS or Res, but for games that don't have scalable graphical configurations, that is what it will probably come down to.
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