jimbobsmells
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They will when PSVR is released.
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PS4 Slim Unboxing Video
- Thread starter Armadilo
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Probably decently cheap, a lot of the profit margin goes to paying back R&D costs.
My post had literally zero aggression in it. Ya'll are unbelievably defensive.
Thank you for a level headed response. Makes sense.
What R&D costs, they're just using slightly modified PC parts.
RPGCrazied
Member
Probably. I know they're two different companies, but with Apple it costs like $20 to build a beats headphone, yet sells them for $300 - $400? I get it... they want a profit, but that seems a tad much.
Stormhammer
Member
that controller looks cheap af
The fuck if true
killertofu
Member
Looks pretty good. How much are 500GB OG PS4s going for now a days...
Wait really? This kinda kills it then.
Wait really? This kinda kills it then.
Slim PS4 replaces standard, but more powerful PS4 comes out at the same time. Isn't that actually worse?
Always out policing, aren't ya!
No because Sony will likely make more per console on the Slim. People have to realize hat the number one goal of a slim console is to reduce the manufacturing cost and make more profit.
Neo will likely not be produced in large volume unless it takes off. Margins should be similar to the OG PS4.
Of course they have other costs as well. But a lot of the profit margin does go into recouping costs and funding development for next gen systems.
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
WhatHifi.com is an excellent source for news and reviews, AVSforum.com is an great forum full of very knowledgeable people. There are a fair few audiophiles on GAF as well, if you start a thread you will get plenty of responses. Also, I don't claim to be any expert, but you can also send me a PM if you want to bounce any ideas off me.
Best thing to do starting out is to figure out your budget and work backwards.
jimbobsmells
Member
RPGCrazied
Member
How can anyone afford all that all at once? I want that job.
jmaine_ph
Member
No better time than the Holiday season to do that.
Transistor
Banned
But they showed exactly the same thing so "flattering" or not, nothing changed from then to now except people showing how indecisive they are
Insane Metal
Member
Watching the video I actually think this looks ok. Not great, ok. It's very small and I prefer the console without that huge Led.
killertofu
Member
Why would I want to buy a separate extra piece of hardware
It probably cost them 9 figures for a 16nm FF+ design contract with AMD, Slim and Neo.
Transistor
Banned
Because optical is an outdated and dying format, and we can't expect hardware companies to support it forever. So as they move forward, there are at least options for you.
Equanimity
Member
It's growing on me.
Beautiful. I might trade in my OG PS4 towards the slim if Neo doesn't come out this year.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Looks uglier than the OG PS4, but I had planned to grab the PS4K anyways. It is a bit smaller for those looking for a base PS4.
nycgamer4ever
Member
Maybe they increased the price of plus by $.83/month to offset an imminent price drop on the new consoles.
It is very likely intentional.
The PSVR is expensive, there is no way to avoid this. It costs as much as a PS4 when it first came out.
By releasing the Slim, Sony would be able to cut the price of the baseline PS4. By releasing the Neo, Sony could increase the number of traded-in 2nd hand refurbished OG PS4s that would be even cheaper than the Slim.
In the end, the PSVR needed a PS4 to work. By lowering the costs of the PS4, it indirectly cuts the amount of money it takes to invest in Sony's VR compared to the PC competition.
And if Sony really wanted to, they can throw in PSVR Bundles for Black Friday. IMO Sony is trying to have synergy with all three pieces of hardware.
Equanimity
Member
I was thinking the same thing. Do you think they'll sell the slim at a loss?
nycgamer4ever
Member
I agree with this. Video looks pro.
Hibiki Kurosawa
Member
Geez the lengths people go through for fakes.
I got mine with the Shop.ca/Ebates/Paypal stacking rebates. It was practically a steal lol, they fixed that loophole pretty quickly afterwards
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Why? Why would you do that? It's not much smaller and it actually has one less feature with the absence of the optical out. An X1S I get, but this upgrade would be a loss for current PS4 owners.
nycgamer4ever
Member
Not sure. Maybe they will sell it at $249 or $279 and break even. I am sure the slim is much more cost effective to make. I can't wait to see the Neo.
AmuroChan
Member
If you're a gamer that cares about optical, the budget model PS4 isn't aimed at you. The Neo will 100% have an optical port.
nycgamer4ever
Member
I agree with the absence of Optical out but that is a dying output. Better to save money on that and put it somewhere else. Best thing to do is connect to a receiver and output to 7.1. Been doing that for years now.
It's growing on me.
It's like they combined a PS4 with an Apple TV.
Yeah, I see the slim selling like hot cakes. Neo and VR? Not so much.
Equanimity
Member
I don't use optical out and I like the slim design. Plus it'll most probably draw less energy.
Man it looks small.Easy HDD bay access.
Unscrews on the back, pulls out the side.
Sectorseven
Member
They've probably done research and found buyers at this (presumably lower) price point don't really use it. Frankly, I'm surprised they haven't dropped the lan port.
ThatOneGrunt
Member
Regardless, the only difference between the OG PS4 and the slim then becomes the size and that's not even that great of a difference. Everyone is allowed to do what they want with their money, but there's really no value here to switch ps4's. Save that difference and put it towards a NEO.
But if it's anything like trade in deals with the X1S, you'll be paying a difference of about $150 to upgrade? You wouldn't even see that reduction of energy costs in a year with the PS4 slim. Seriously, it makes more sense just to hold out for the NEO.
If he doesn't use optical the absence of it is irrelevant. Maybe his current PS4 sounds like a jet engine (like most of them) and the slim has better cooling/noise output.
Barkley's Justice
Member
More ways to drain that battery quicker