"TV shows don't count, MARVELITES."The only good thing about this is that it proves to asshats that their is no critic marvel bias and there's no Disney moneyhatting.
The only good thing about this is that it proves to asshats that their is no critic marvel bias and there's no Disney moneyhatting.
What the heck does that mean?You guys wanted Shang Chi instead of Iron Fist. It still was trash though.
What the heck does that mean?
Holy shit that EW review. I don't think I even want to watch this show out of morbid curiosity anymore.
What the heck does that mean?
Holy shit that EW review. I don't think I even want to watch this show out of morbid curiosity anymore.
No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets the people going.
Yeah, that EW review is the best thing I've read so far this morning. Hilarious. This show must be absolutely terrible.
Dexter ended after 4 seasons, right?How badly did Buck destroy Dexter? Was it in good condition before he took over?
She suffers the same fate as every GoT actor. Only able to appear in mediocre stuff.That actress, Coleen Wing, has some bad luck. Joins Game of Thrones, the biggest show on TV, a surefire win, and winds up in the lamest plotline of the entire show, and worse, as the most forgettable and least focused on character of said plotline.
Now she joins the Marvel TV shows, which have been hits so far, and winds up on the one that appears to be an out and out dud.
At least she was in Star Wars for like, forty five seconds.
Like all Marvel-Netflix shows, Iron Fist wants to be an adult-skewing neo-pulp urban crime serial, so it downplays the supernatural aspects as if terrified of them.
This show sounds like a disasterAnyone wanting Fists of Fury in the City should table the expectation, and modern comics fanboys should abandon all hope of anything resembling the celebrated, stylish run of the comics treatment by Ed Brubaker, Matt Fraction and David Aja that leaned hard into the fantastical.
Marvel: We need a showrunner for Iron Fist.
Scott Buck:
We need an acotr
Finn Jones:
This show sounds like a disaster
When asked about the early reviews by Metro.co.uk, Jones said: Well I think theres multiple factors. What I will say is these shows are not made for critics, they are first and foremost made for the fans.
I also think some of the reviews we saw were seeing the show through a very specific lens, and I think when the fans of the Marvel Netflix world and fans of the comic books view the show through the lens of just wanting to enjoy a superhero show, then they will really enjoy what they see.
I think its a fantastic show which is really fun and I think it stands up there with the other Defenders shows without a doubt, he added.
That DCEU tactic.
What I will say is these shows are not made for critics, they are first and foremost made for the fans.
Maybe they should have took the plotline from DDS2 and reinterpreted that for Iron Fist. Replace the Punisher with another character and have Danny fight ninja assassins instead. Daredevil and the Hand/Electra storyline are staples to his character, but people had issues with how it was handled on the Netflix show. Perhaps with Iron Fist it might have fit the tone of the series better.
Even if all of that were in the show there's still the issue of how they're gonna write Danny and the fact that he's a white dude appropriating kung fu.Honestly, I was thinking that all throughout DDS2.
I thought "Okay, they can make Iron Fist work. Just do this, but with Danny Rand."
Great fight choreography, ninjas crawling out of the woodwork, tons of set-up... You have to actively work to screw it up.
Marvel's success has largely been about EMBRACING the core parts of any character they adapt. Knowing WHY people like them and then giving people exactly what they want with a sprinkle of newness. Nobody wants to watch a Captain America film where Cap acts like Tony Stark; that's what makes them who they are. If Black Panther suddenly started quipping like Spider-man, you'd lose the regal authority that defines him. If Jessica Jones was as carefree and lighthearted as Ant-Man, it would be tone-deaf.
Iron Fist is a mystical martial artists trained by ancient ninja monks who bathed his fists in the blood of a fire dragon and then came back to America with supernatural skills, skills chiefly used to fight armies of ninjas and supervillains, all while understanding he's a small part of something much larger and greater than himself.
Daredevil is a better Iron Fist than Iron Fist is in his own show.
I don't know if it was time, or budget, or the writers, or the directors, or what... but being almost ashamed of its source material is the death knell for any comic adaptation. We like them for the quirky and unusual and fantastical elements that drew us in initially. If those elements aren't there in the adaptation, nothing else will matter.
Any word on the action scenes? This is what will make it or break it for me.
Any word on the action scenes? This is what will make it or break it for me.
Damn it why
Even if all of that were in the show there's still the issue of how they're gonna write Danny and the fact that he's a white dude appropriating kung fu.
Yep, that's when you know it's fucked. And not even a "well they only saw the first half, the show really takes off in the second half" defense, which says to me that the show is not going to change at all between the episodes reviewed and the ones held back.The good old "this wasn't made for critics!" excuse.
This show sounds like a disaster
Buck: I better slip in some treadmill action as well.Scott Buck: What if we make a Doctor Stranger TV show, but get this, we downplay all the magic.
TV-Marvel: GENIUS!