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That game is probably going to open at like half what the did.
I had thought about picking it up, however I never played the first one so I don't really know what the series is about other than yuri girls fighting daemons? And I didn't know if I needed to know the story of the first one for the story of this one to be interesting, so I decided to hold off and decide after I read a review. I do want to support Gust so I feel a bit bad for not buying it.
Eh, people have been saying that since DQXI week 2, yet when the MC numbers show up 3DS and PS4 are not that different.
Rakuten Books Sales Ranking Week 35, 2017 (Aug 28 - Sep 03)
01./00. [PS4] Everybody's Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
02./05. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Switch Splatoon 2 Set) <BUN> (Nintendo)
03./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 <RPG> (Atlus)
04./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
05./02. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
07./04. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
08./00. [PS4] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
09./00. [PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom)
10./03. [3DS] The Snack World <RPG> (Level 5)
11./06. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)
12./08. [NSW] ARMS <FTG> (Nintendo)
13./10. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo)
14./09. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
15./16. [PS4] Megadimension Neptunia VIIR <RPG> (Compile Heart)
16./12. [3DS] Hey! Pikmin <ACT> (Nintendo)
17./15. [PS4] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi)
18./20. [PS4] Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy <ACT> (Sony Interactive)
19./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 (10th Anniversary Box) <RPG> (Atlus)
20./13. [PSV] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi)
Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 35, 2017 (Aug 28 - Sep 03)
01./04. [PS4] Destiny 2 <STG> (Sony Interactive)
02./05. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2018 <SPT> (Konami)
03./02. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 (Kiwami Limited Edtition) <ACT> (Sega)
04./03. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 <ACT> (Sega)
05./06. [PS4] Gran Turismo: Sport <RCE> (Sony Interactive)
06./13. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (Kiseki Box) <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
07./11. [3DS] Rune Factory 4 (Platinum Collection) <SLG> (Marvelous)
08./09. [PS4] FIFA 18 <SPT> (Electronic Arts)
09./16. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
10./14. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 34, 2017 (Aug 21 - Aug 27)
***WARNING***
* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.
01./00. [PS4] Everybody's Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
02./05. [NSW] Splatoon 2 (Switch Splatoon 2 Set) <BUN> (Nintendo)
03./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 <RPG> (Atlus)
04./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
05./02. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
06./07. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
07./04. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom)
08./00. [PS4] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
09./00. [PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom)
10./03. [3DS] The Snack World <RPG> (Level 5)
11./06. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)
12./08. [NSW] ARMS <FTG> (Nintendo)
13./10. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo)
14./09. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
15./16. [PS4] Megadimension Neptunia VIIR <RPG> (Compile Heart)
16./12. [3DS] Hey! Pikmin <ACT> (Nintendo)
17./15. [PS4] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi)
18./20. [PS4] Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy <ACT> (Sony Interactive)
19./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 (10th Anniversary Box) <RPG> (Atlus)
20./13. [PSV] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi)
Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 35, 2017 (Aug 28 - Sep 03)
01./04. [PS4] Destiny 2 <STG> (Sony Interactive)
02./05. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2018 <SPT> (Konami)
03./02. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 (Kiwami Limited Edtition) <ACT> (Sega)
04./03. [PS4] Yakuza: Kiwami 2 <ACT> (Sega)
05./06. [PS4] Gran Turismo: Sport <RCE> (Sony Interactive)
06./13. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (Kiseki Box) <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
07./11. [3DS] Rune Factory 4 (Platinum Collection) <SLG> (Marvelous)
08./09. [PS4] FIFA 18 <SPT> (Electronic Arts)
09./16. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III <RPG> (Nihon Falcom)
10./14. [NSW] Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 <FTG> (Bandai Namco)
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 34, 2017 (Aug 21 - Aug 27)
***WARNING***
* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.
Tsutaya's Ranking Week 35 2017
01./00. [PS4] Everybody's Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
02./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. <ACT> (Capcom)
03./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 <RPG> (Atlus)
05./00. [PS4] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
06./03. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
07./00. [PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom)
08./04. [3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers <RPG> (Level 5)
09./05. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)**
10./06. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
11./00. [PSV] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
12./07. [PSV] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software)
13./08. [PS4] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software)
14./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 (10th Anniversary Box) <RPG> (Atlus)
15./10. [PS4] Dragon Quest X: All in One Package <RPG> (Square Enix)
16./12. [PS4] Hitman: The Complete First Season <ADV> (Square Enix)
17./09. [3DS] Great Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 2 - Naruhodō Ryūnosuke no Kakugo <ADV> (Capcom)
18./17. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
19./00. [NSW] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
20./20. [NSW] ARMS <ACT> (Nintendo)
____
**Bundles not included
01./00. [PS4] Everybody's Golf <SPT> (Sony Interactive)
02./01. [NSW] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver. <ACT> (Capcom)
03./02. [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 <RPG> (Atlus)
05./00. [PS4] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
06./03. [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age <RPG> (Square Enix)
07./00. [PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations <ADV> (Capcom)
08./04. [3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers <RPG> (Level 5)
09./05. [NSW] Splatoon 2 <ACT> (Nintendo)**
10./06. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
11./00. [PSV] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
12./07. [PSV] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software)
13./08. [PS4] Yomawari: Midnight Shadows <ACT> (Nippon Ichi Software)
14./00. [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 (10th Anniversary Box) <RPG> (Atlus)
15./10. [PS4] Dragon Quest X: All in One Package <RPG> (Square Enix)
16./12. [PS4] Hitman: The Complete First Season <ADV> (Square Enix)
17./09. [3DS] Great Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney 2 - Naruhodō Ryūnosuke no Kakugo <ADV> (Capcom)
18./17. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
19./00. [NSW] Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon <RPG> (Koei Tecmo)
20./20. [NSW] ARMS <ACT> (Nintendo)
____
**Bundles not included
Yagami_Sama
Member
So Monster Hunter Double Cross might suffer a huge drop, I was hoping for it keep in the 20k range, but now I am not that sure.
Edit : Posted at the same time as hiska-kun.
Finally the Switch version of Nights of Azure 2 appeared, but sounds like it will be below 10k.
Edit : Posted at the same time as hiska-kun.
Finally the Switch version of Nights of Azure 2 appeared, but sounds like it will be below 10k.
Jon Carter
Member
I'd be happy to see Dragon Ball do well, but I can't wait to see the end of these tests. If the Switch hadn't been successful right out of the gate and the game had bombed, that would only have told them that Switch owners don't care about late ports at full price with no real added value. So I'd hope publishers aren't really using those games to determine future support.
Don't understand the concern for Xenoverse performance in Japan anyway, it was never going to be the barometer for third party... selling 25k this week in Japan is a non-factor in the scheme of things. Game on all platforms is probably approaching 2 million if it hasn't already passed it. Japan is a drop in the bucket.
Road to TGS.™
Notes:
- The list will include all games announced from August 1st until the end of TGS, except mobile will be focused on games from traditional publishers, or really notable non-traditional publisher games.
- The list will include the title, genre, publisher, developer (if known), release window (if known), and any pertinent notes.
- I won't be including things until they at least have one platform announced. Similarly, games announced prior to this window with no platforms count as a new announcement. Beyond that, I'm being a bit more generous with inclusions instead of waiting until the full details show up unless we just clearly don't know enough to list it.
- This will be the Switch's first Road to TGS.
Cendrillion phalikA
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Charade Maniacs
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Collar x Malice: Unlimited
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Unknown
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Diabolik Lovers PS4
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): PS4
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced. It's a compilation.
Piofiore no Banshou
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Shinku no Homura: Sanada no Ninpouchou
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): PS4, Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Shiritsu Verbara Gakuen: The Rose of Versailles Re*imagination
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Unknown
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Shiro to Kuro no Alice New Title
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate/Kogato
Platform(s): Unknown
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Tengai Ni Mau, Ikinahana
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Triangle Project
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate/Frontier Works
Platform(s): PC
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced. This is technically three games, but I'll count it as announcing the first one since there's not much in the way of details.
Variable Barricade
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): PS4, Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters
Publisher/Developer: Bandai Namco
Platform(s): PS4
Genre: Action
Release Window: December 7th, 2017
Notes: I think they usually put out a new Kamen Rider game every 1-2 years, so this is this year's.
Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park he Youkoso
Publisher/Developer: Nippon Columbia
Platform(s): Switch
Genre: Party Game
Release Window: December 7th, 2017
Notes: This is a four player board game with mini-games. You''ll probably start noticing a trend between this and Gotouchi Tetsudou last week.
Medabots Classics
Publisher/Developer: Rocket Company
Platform(s): 3DS
Genre: RPG
Release Window: December 21st, 2017
Notes: This is a collection of the first five Medabots games, which appeared on Game Boy and Game Boy Color.
Dragon: Marked for Death
Publisher/Developer: Inti Creates
Platform(s): Switch
Genre: Action RPG
Release Window: Winter 2017
Notes: This is a four player co-op 2D sidescroller. It's worth noting it was once a 3DS game back in 2011.
Tear: Owari to Hajimari no Shizuku
Publisher/Developer: Rockin Heart Games
Platform(s): PS4
Genre: Visual Novel
Release Window: October 5th, 2017
Notes: This is a visual novel that has VR functionality and is a 1500 yen download only title.
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
Publisher/Developer: Gung-Ho/Grasshopper/Marvelous/Shirogumi
Platform(s): Switch
Genre: Action
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is a UE4 based action game, and is the first game Suda51 has directed himself in ages. Suda does note that they have a lot less staff to make the game this time around than with No More Heroes 2.
The Great Ace Attorney
Publisher/Developer: Capcom
Platform(s): iOS/Android
Genre: Adventure
Release Window: September 1st, 2017
Notes: This was a surprise port of The Great Ace Attorney for mobile that was announced and released simultaneously. It's a paid app.
Excluded:
- I thought about it, but decided that Capcom Vancouver games, even if they have a Japanese producer attached (which I'm not sure if this does, but they usually do), should be considered Western games.
Platform running totals:
PS4: 21
Switch: 15
3DS: 6
Vita: 10
PC: 6
XB1: 2
Wii U: 1
Traditional Publisher Mobile: 9
Previous Posts:
Week 1: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245485084&postcount=1638
Week 2: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=246012010&postcount=609
Week 3: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=246523180&postcount=575
Week 4: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=247064994&postcount=831
Notes:
- The list will include all games announced from August 1st until the end of TGS, except mobile will be focused on games from traditional publishers, or really notable non-traditional publisher games.
- The list will include the title, genre, publisher, developer (if known), release window (if known), and any pertinent notes.
- I won't be including things until they at least have one platform announced. Similarly, games announced prior to this window with no platforms count as a new announcement. Beyond that, I'm being a bit more generous with inclusions instead of waiting until the full details show up unless we just clearly don't know enough to list it.
- This will be the Switch's first Road to TGS.
Cendrillion phalikA
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Charade Maniacs
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Collar x Malice: Unlimited
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Unknown
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Diabolik Lovers PS4
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): PS4
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced. It's a compilation.
Piofiore no Banshou
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Shinku no Homura: Sanada no Ninpouchou
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): PS4, Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Shiritsu Verbara Gakuen: The Rose of Versailles Re*imagination
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Unknown
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Shiro to Kuro no Alice New Title
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate/Kogato
Platform(s): Unknown
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Tengai Ni Mau, Ikinahana
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Triangle Project
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate/Frontier Works
Platform(s): PC
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: Unknown
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced. This is technically three games, but I'll count it as announcing the first one since there's not much in the way of details.
Variable Barricade
Publisher/Developer: Idea Factory/Otomate
Platform(s): PS4, Vita
Genre: Otome Visual Novel
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is one of the many Otome visual novels Idea Factory mass announced.
Kamen Rider: Climax Fighters
Publisher/Developer: Bandai Namco
Platform(s): PS4
Genre: Action
Release Window: December 7th, 2017
Notes: I think they usually put out a new Kamen Rider game every 1-2 years, so this is this year's.
Sumikko Gurashi: Sumikko Park he Youkoso
Publisher/Developer: Nippon Columbia
Platform(s): Switch
Genre: Party Game
Release Window: December 7th, 2017
Notes: This is a four player board game with mini-games. You''ll probably start noticing a trend between this and Gotouchi Tetsudou last week.
Medabots Classics
Publisher/Developer: Rocket Company
Platform(s): 3DS
Genre: RPG
Release Window: December 21st, 2017
Notes: This is a collection of the first five Medabots games, which appeared on Game Boy and Game Boy Color.
Dragon: Marked for Death
Publisher/Developer: Inti Creates
Platform(s): Switch
Genre: Action RPG
Release Window: Winter 2017
Notes: This is a four player co-op 2D sidescroller. It's worth noting it was once a 3DS game back in 2011.
Tear: Owari to Hajimari no Shizuku
Publisher/Developer: Rockin Heart Games
Platform(s): PS4
Genre: Visual Novel
Release Window: October 5th, 2017
Notes: This is a visual novel that has VR functionality and is a 1500 yen download only title.
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
Publisher/Developer: Gung-Ho/Grasshopper/Marvelous/Shirogumi
Platform(s): Switch
Genre: Action
Release Window: 2018
Notes: This is a UE4 based action game, and is the first game Suda51 has directed himself in ages. Suda does note that they have a lot less staff to make the game this time around than with No More Heroes 2.
The Great Ace Attorney
Publisher/Developer: Capcom
Platform(s): iOS/Android
Genre: Adventure
Release Window: September 1st, 2017
Notes: This was a surprise port of The Great Ace Attorney for mobile that was announced and released simultaneously. It's a paid app.
Excluded:
- I thought about it, but decided that Capcom Vancouver games, even if they have a Japanese producer attached (which I'm not sure if this does, but they usually do), should be considered Western games.
Platform running totals:
PS4: 21
Switch: 15
3DS: 6
Vita: 10
PC: 6
XB1: 2
Wii U: 1
Traditional Publisher Mobile: 9
Previous Posts:
Week 1: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=245485084&postcount=1638
Week 2: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=246012010&postcount=609
Week 3: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=246523180&postcount=575
Week 4: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=247064994&postcount=831
Good job and thanks for compiling this list Nirolak.
D3 Publisher have something for PS4/Vita that will be revealed this week.
https://www.d3p.co.jp/tokioku/
http://www.siliconera.com/2017/09/01/d3-publisher-teases-ps4-ps-vita-fantasy-game-orc-dating-sim/
Square2015
Member
Dragon Quest series weekly historical (up to fifth week)
*biweekly/double week
DQ1~3 projections unattested
Data=Famitsu
Code:
DQ1 DQ2 DQ3 DQ4 DQ5 DQ6 DQ7 DQ8 DQ9 DQ10 DQ11
Week 1 ~160,000* ~440,000 ~1,370,000 159,000 684,000 1,455,000 1,862,065 2,236,881 2,343,440 420,311 2,080,806
Week 2 ~34,000* ? ? 161,000* 685,000 449,000 1,072,286 559,524 602,856 70,352 426,189
Week 3 ? ? ~362,000* ? 477,000 308,000 329,317 200,033 271,206 45,470 188,250
Week 4 ? ? ~193,000* ? ? 269,000* 154,797 116,731 172,728 20,616 154,130
Week 5 ? ? ? ? 356,000* 80,000 83,918 118,119 106,514 13,616 53,251
5 wk tot:? ? ? ? ? 2.563m 3.502m 3.232m 3.497m 0.570m 2.902mDQ1~3 projections unattested
Data=Famitsu
GEO Top 10
- [PS4] New Everybody's Golf
- [SWI] Monster Hunter Double Cross: Nintendo Switch Ver
- [3DS] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
- [3DS] Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2
- [3DS] The Snack World: TreJarers
- [SWI] Splatoon 2
- [PS4] Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
- [PS4] Nights of Azure 2
- [SWI] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe
- [PS4] Resident Evil: Revelations - Unveiled Edition
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Maybe I missed it, but what's the lone Wii U title? The only things I'm aware of that are still coming are the final DLC for Zelda and (presumably) Shovel Knight.
Yeah, I think the market slots into place very straightforwardly if we just look at who the people spending money on these games must be.
So the biggest spenders in the Japanese market are in their 30s and 40s. Let's focus on the 30-40 band for a moment. 20 years ago these people would have been 10-20.
In 1997, Final Fantasy VII sold 4 million copies in Japan, and in 1999, Final Fantasy VIII sold 3.5 million copies in Japan.
In 2016, Final Fantasy XV sold 1 million copies in Japan.
A question becomes "Where did all these people who played FF7/FF8 go, especially given they were a mix of core and mainstream gamers? This 2.5-3 million copy gap is gigantic."
The traditional answer has been "Well, they probably went to handhelds, and then eventually stopped gaming." Now, this was probably true, but these days, they're all back, and they're collectively spending $150-$200+ million a year on Final Fantasy Brave Exvius.
The difference in the West is that these people never left PC/consoles, so games went from being about teenage animals with attitude to games where you play father figures raising children, and can spend all your excess free cash buying GTA V suits/sports cars or a BBQ Dad skin for Soldier 76 in Overwatch. The amount of people spending money on microtransactions and DLC for retail games and core oriented PC/console f2p titles in the West tends to be about the same as Japanese mid-core mobile game monetization rates, because they're largely the same demographic.
To be clear though, there are definitely still a lot of whales, in the same way you get people who spend $1000+ on FIFA card packs or buy a 50 pack of crates every Overwatch event.
Dragon Quest X's newest expansion pack.
LiveFromKyoto
Member
Ah, of course. Thanks.
There's a few factors:
1.) There's actually decidedly more games getting announced than I'm listing, but almost none of them are reported on English language sites.
2.) Mobile games are still often announced 1-2 months prior to launch, and aren't tied to the holidays, so there's a lot less incentive to announce them at TGS in particular. One of the major draws of TGS for publishers is they can let the public get hands on time with their games, but there's no barrier to getting hands on time with an f2p mobile game like there is with a retail game.
3.) Due to the increased standards in mobile and the service game nature of the products, there are actually a lot less games made overall these days than there were a few years ago. Companies would rather throw 100 staff on an individual mobile game than making 10 separate games from 10 person teams like they used to, and then all that staff sticks around to update the game every two weeks after launch if it's actually successful.
It's kind of like how EA used to put out 80 games a year in 2008, and now puts out 8 games a year, despite having the same amount of staff. They also make way more money these days despite the rise in costs.
Edit:
This does remind me that I forgot The Great Ace Attorney's surprise mobile release.
Edit 2:
For example, I went to go look up some recent game announcements on Famitsu's mobile gaming site. I spotted a new Square Enix mobile rhythm game that was never covered on Gematsu: https://translate.googleusercontent...28350/&usg=ALkJrhiLmHpK75mH8B-Wxx5RYXnU0RGspQ
There's also a new Sangokushi game from Nexon: https://translate.googleusercontent...27687/&usg=ALkJrhj0RBaeEOUVauNKAp1XmyJflWEzvg
Square Enix is also shutting down Final Fantasy Legends II and turning it into a paid app: https://translate.googleusercontent...28228/&usg=ALkJrhhPOWNQ4WSglba4TNLIzd_U07jKww
Square Enix also announced a mobile tie in to their Shrine Maiden anime: https://translate.googleusercontent...25919/&usg=ALkJrhjcNeAkl-p4O00cqNQ7znZxg1_B8g
You can see the amount of stuff that gets missed on the regular. This is just stuff that would have been in this week's write-up.
Laplasakos
Member
Wait, what? So you have to buy the game to play it now? If that's the case, then maybe the game wasn't doing so well.
TheLegendaryN
Member
Damn, that's pretty bomba for Nights of Azure 2 Switch. I expected a bit better results tbh. The Vita version is doing much better than I was hoping for, compared to Switch. That version is such a technical shitshow - why are people buying that? (And why is the Switch version selling much worse?? >.>)
I guess it's an audience problem. Hopefully the Switch version of Atelier will do much better.
Also thanks for another week of Road to TGS, Nirolak!
I guess it's an audience problem. Hopefully the Switch version of Atelier will do much better.
Also thanks for another week of Road to TGS, Nirolak!
It was 6K last year mainly because of PS4 Slim announcement. Just wait for week 37:
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|System | [B]This Week[/B] | [B]Last Week[/B] | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
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| PS4 | [B]96.433[/B] | [B]560[/B] | 8.375 | 916.511 | 823.328 | 3.217.591 |
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Comgnet last week:
and the result:
I am unsure on what basis you expected this.
Yes, that one tanked over time, as did the relaunch.
Okay lets slow down for a bit....even with Switch software selling reasonably well. The system installed base is still quite a bit lower compared to other plattforms - so there is a limit to how many games can sell/perform solid at the same time. Especially when talking about such niche releases.
Probably
It must also be said that even the ps4 version looking at the chart is set to sell very few copies being below so many games...
Well enough to justify the port costs and building up the fanbase for future releases ? Yes.
Its not just about top or flop for publishers that release so many games - the PS4 wouldnt have gotten any release in the first 18 months if only the PS4 versions performance was the deciding factor.
The next KT releases might not have Vita versions, in addition the fact of the rising Switch install base naturally will result in higher Switch software sales. Having the engines and devs ready for Switch releases on year 1 was the priority. The Switch will be here for a couple of years.
Just because certain games are off doesn't mean data physical is more accurate than digital for all games. In fact for all we know a lot physical data could be inaccurate, but the problem is we just don't have enough numbers to fully verify them. If you trust Famitsu's physical data, there is no reason to distrust their digital data.
I was responding to a person who disregarded certain numbers because they didn't fit their preconditioned expectations. This is ridiculous. If we start to cherry pick which numbers we trust and distrust, sales discussions would lead nowhere.
Usually niche games have no problem reaching their full potential even on a low install base because the audience are enthusiasts who buy new hardware as early as they can. But since the Switch is so supply constrained even though the niche audience probably wanted to buy a Switch, most of them were not able to so far. So I agree, these releases should get better sales when the installment base increases.
Because famitsu digital had been proven often that the number is not accurate. How hard is to see that? They are wrong on Splatoon number and now with Splat2. Thats why we never fully uses those number.
When they are on 3 systems ? A niche games stays niche even if its released on 5 instead of one or two systems. ..so the number of people who own a Switch but not any of the other systems and is interested in this game will be rather slow.
More importantly KT publishes most of their titles worldwide nowadays - they are building up the Switch to be their 3rd pillar between PC and consoles.
Famitsu digital estimates are the best thing we have for digital and certainly much closer to reality from everything else out there.
My intention was to preempt arguments about games like these doing well even on low install base PS3/Vita/PS4. I agree with your original point, I just added a defense to the window you left open.
There's difference between not doing well, and not even charting. That's what I'm thinking
Herb Alpert
Banned
The sales compared to install base ratio should be interesting to see between Switch and ps4.
Just because one or two games are off doesn't mean the whole set of data regarding digital is off too. I mean why do you trust physical data then? We see major differences between trackers all the time. One of them must be wrong. By your logic, shouldn't these data also be considered inaccurate?
Jon Carter
Member
Their sample size for physical sales is huge enough that any significant discrepancies with other trackers not due to download cards are few and far between.
Meanwhile, every time we get real digital sales numbers, Famitsu's digital estimates are proven wrong. They're nowhere near as consistently reliable as their physical numbers.
That's not the case, what are these games that are so off? Certainly not Splatoon I see mentioned.
edit: Speaking for Splatoon and how much Nintendo messed the digital numbers
After 4 weeks
total: 368.000 (sales)
retail: 310.582
digital: ~58.000
After 22 weeks
total: 905.000 (sales)
retail: 737.478
digital: ~168.000
After 45 weeks
total: 1.490.000 (shipments)
retail: 1.318.600
digital: <171.000
TheLegendaryN
Member
I expected the Switch version to actually chart, but even that doesn't seem to be the case. Also, the Vita version is a technical disaster, which made me think that people would shift toward either PS4 (the other PS system) or Switch (the other portable). Either way makes sell Vita sales. As extralite pointed out, the niche audience are usually early adopters and Gust is clearly showing that the PS4/Switch combo is the way they're going forward. That doesn't mean that all Gust fans are buying a Switch of course, but after a couple of terrible ports before (and the weak sales of Blue Reflection on Vita), I expect most to have switched over to PS4 or Switch. With the premise of charting, I expected the difference in sales between Vita and Switch to be smaller (although in practice that would probably still be a factor of 2 to 3).
S-E have had a regular output of mobile titles in the last few months and they seem really intent on putting money in the sector, which is good.
As good as that was, that's from June 2016. The leap from that to what we find in June 2017 is well into early (?) PS3 graphics especially in Theater Days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFmKTRz_K_w
To me it looks like the PS4 Platinum Stars game squished into mobile. That game (of which I'm an owner sold 90k last year, and that was 88th overall last year.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1427978
This is compared to Theater Days' at least 3.9 million downloads reach.
http://senpaigamer.com/idolmaster-m...390-million-jewels-from-28th-of-july-26072017
This is good, as this shows that the market is starting to mature and is able to support multiple titles even if not all of them are making the kind of money the top X titles make like Monster Strike.
For me I see this an evolution of the gaming model at large since the arcade days which then slowly transitioned to console/PC, and branched out to dedicated gaming handhelds then mobile. I recall the Virtua Fighter 5 service model when that game was first released, which followed a regular(ish) pattern of updates, characters and versions. It doesn't surprise that as graphics power increases and the form size of equivalent computing power miniaturizes and ends up in more people's hands then ever, that service gaming moves onto these platforms.
Laplasakos
Member
Switch version was supposed to prevent the decline and prove that these games can sell on Switch, so i am pretty sure it's a big problem.
UnemployedVillain
Member
It's always funny how a single flop on a Nintendo system proves there's no market for that sort of game, while on other systems it's just a thing that happens
DOOM
Laplasakos
Member
Maybe i am over reacting but i doubt Atelier will sell better (Amazon pre orders are not painting a good picture for Switch version). I'll be happy to proven wrong though.
"The decline on every most games on Playstation platforms? It happens on other systems too, not a big deal too"
"A switch version of one of these declining games didn't sell well ?! Quick, light all the red alarms, the boat is sinking !"