First liberals kill the unborn, now they kill the unconceived.
This is just like Soviet China.
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First liberals kill the unborn, now they kill the unconceived.
This is just like Soviet China.
I don't know, but I've been asking the same question regarding Michelle Bachmann for a long time.
jamesinclair
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So I was just picking up dinner at a small mom and pop fried chicken joint.
Six other customers in there with me, 4 hispanic, two black.
I hear Obama. Guess what the TV is tuned into?
Fox news.
This small business owner (greek I would guess) would rather put his hypocritical politics ahead of his entire fucking business.
His kitchen staff is hispanic. His customer base is 49% black, 49% hispanic and 2% white.
And here he has the TV tuned into some guy trying to attack black people and immigrants.
Its fucking amazing.
Oh, and my favorite part? The only thing I hear besides Obama, was some fox enws blowhard saying something like
" The president actually said we should stop building highways into the suburbs and focus on "our" neighborhoods, OMG WTF ISNT THAT SCANDALOUS?"
It hit me. Obama is the first fucking president EVER to actually understand urban issues, and how the highways destroyed hispanic and black communities so the white people could escape.
Thats amazing.
Ask any other president "highways to suburbs, good?" and every single one of them will say " fucking amazing!" while Obama would be the only one to say "there were significant drawbacks"
The irony, of course, is that republicans are against big government infrastructure projects, and are now trying to proclaim the amazginess of the highway program?
Six other customers in there with me, 4 hispanic, two black.
I hear Obama. Guess what the TV is tuned into?
Fox news.
This small business owner (greek I would guess) would rather put his hypocritical politics ahead of his entire fucking business.
His kitchen staff is hispanic. His customer base is 49% black, 49% hispanic and 2% white.
And here he has the TV tuned into some guy trying to attack black people and immigrants.
Its fucking amazing.
Oh, and my favorite part? The only thing I hear besides Obama, was some fox enws blowhard saying something like
" The president actually said we should stop building highways into the suburbs and focus on "our" neighborhoods, OMG WTF ISNT THAT SCANDALOUS?"
It hit me. Obama is the first fucking president EVER to actually understand urban issues, and how the highways destroyed hispanic and black communities so the white people could escape.
Thats amazing.
Ask any other president "highways to suburbs, good?" and every single one of them will say " fucking amazing!" while Obama would be the only one to say "there were significant drawbacks"
The irony, of course, is that republicans are against big government infrastructure projects, and are now trying to proclaim the amazginess of the highway program?
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Hating women is in this year.
Byakuya769
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Roland Martin looks like Quitely's cat Beast.
Dominican Power
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I'm surprised you didn't call the owner out on his hypocrisy.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
This was and remains one of the biggest reasons why I support Obama not just because I think his policy would be beneficial to me but because I feel that he is certainly the only president that I can think of (my knowledge more then a few decades back is hazy) who really has first-hand experience with the realities that lower class families and urban minorities deal with. He's "in touch" with the people who need his help the most.jamessinclair said:
speculawyer
Member
Wha? I don't even . . .
Would an 'abortion' procedure to a woman that is not pregnant be worse than an abortion?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
It just occured to me: Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. I wonder what would have happend if he had been born just two years earlier when Hawaii still wasn't a state. Would he be eligible to run for president because his birthplace was a state at the time of nomination?
Byakuya769
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Maybe he was born two years earlier. It would explain how he has aged so much lately. Once he was in the White House he no longer had to hide his true age.
PhoenixDark
Banned
The thing I don't understand about the video is Obama's shout out to Wright; by June, the campaign knew he could be a problem. In fact much of the speech feels like something untouched by Axelrod, Plouffe, and the other big wigs of the Obama campaign at the time. Obama was down by like 30 points among black voters so clearly he was trying to woo some over...but what was the point considering the first caucus was in lily white Iowa
The stuff about Stafford loans and Katrina/911 sound like boilerplate progressive black arguments, and the rest is urban development policy that most liberals - white and black - believe. Here in Michigan we have the Michigan Works program where government and private businesses hold conferences to help teach people how to fill out resumes, how to spend/save money wisely, how to eat healthy, etc. Would anyone deny that many inner cities need more help with basic stuff like that than more affluent areas of a city? We can argue on whether the federal government should be involved or not, but I think sensible conservatives would support the basic ideas that make up welfare-to-work programs; after all they're upset Obama allegedly ended said programs.
Here's the problem with this video and all the other exposes: Obama is already president. People have spent four years coming up with ideas of why they like or don't like him. Most of those ideas revolve around the economy, or healthcare, or foreign policy, etc. The vast majority of people - including white people - do not think Obama is racist. They see him everyday and don't see the radical race baiter that people on the right see. Why is it that so many black leaders dislike Obama? Why is it that Jesse Jackson wanted to castrate Obama for daring to tell black people to work hard, or why Sharpton supported Hillary over Obama. If you don't like perpetrators of black victim-hood and ambulance chasing, shouldn't you like Obama's basic argument, and take solace knowing idiots like Jackson don't like him? I never understood that about conservatives. Obama couldn't be more different from Sharpton and Jackson
Finally on the accent: I thought we already established that people change their voices to appeal or cater to specific crowds. Hillary takes a southern cadence when talking at black churches, and even Tim Pawlenty did the same thing when trying to appeal to Iowans. Notice how Obama talks to NBA players versus how he talks on 60 Minutes? It's nothing new. My dad wears socks with sandals, plays tennis, graduated from an esteemed dental school, has his own business, and in general is quite corny...but when he's around his family and childhood friends from Detroit he uses an "urban" accent. Not a super urban one, but the slightly refined one that Obama uses - where you know it used to be natural but isn't so much anymore.
The stuff about Stafford loans and Katrina/911 sound like boilerplate progressive black arguments, and the rest is urban development policy that most liberals - white and black - believe. Here in Michigan we have the Michigan Works program where government and private businesses hold conferences to help teach people how to fill out resumes, how to spend/save money wisely, how to eat healthy, etc. Would anyone deny that many inner cities need more help with basic stuff like that than more affluent areas of a city? We can argue on whether the federal government should be involved or not, but I think sensible conservatives would support the basic ideas that make up welfare-to-work programs; after all they're upset Obama allegedly ended said programs.
Here's the problem with this video and all the other exposes: Obama is already president. People have spent four years coming up with ideas of why they like or don't like him. Most of those ideas revolve around the economy, or healthcare, or foreign policy, etc. The vast majority of people - including white people - do not think Obama is racist. They see him everyday and don't see the radical race baiter that people on the right see. Why is it that so many black leaders dislike Obama? Why is it that Jesse Jackson wanted to castrate Obama for daring to tell black people to work hard, or why Sharpton supported Hillary over Obama. If you don't like perpetrators of black victim-hood and ambulance chasing, shouldn't you like Obama's basic argument, and take solace knowing idiots like Jackson don't like him? I never understood that about conservatives. Obama couldn't be more different from Sharpton and Jackson
Finally on the accent: I thought we already established that people change their voices to appeal or cater to specific crowds. Hillary takes a southern cadence when talking at black churches, and even Tim Pawlenty did the same thing when trying to appeal to Iowans. Notice how Obama talks to NBA players versus how he talks on 60 Minutes? It's nothing new. My dad wears socks with sandals, plays tennis, graduated from an esteemed dental school, has his own business, and in general is quite corny...but when he's around his family and childhood friends from Detroit he uses an "urban" accent. Not a super urban one, but the slightly refined one that Obama uses - where you know it used to be natural but isn't so much anymore.
thank you
Thequietone
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Conservatheory: Obamas birth certificate was faked because hes actually older than he claims. Why else would he have grey hair?
Edit: beaten like a tea partier.
As long as you are born in an American territory I think you're fine. It was annexed in 1898 so I doubt he'd be ineligible.
soundscream
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ryutaro's mama
Member
Should any of that matter since his mother is was American?
McCain was born in Panama...
Byakuya769
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You have to be born in the US or on a US territory, like a military base (where McCain was born) or embassy. Under these rules I presume annexed territories count towards this requirement.
Manmademan
Member
And his mother is a US citizen. McCain was born in the Panama Canal zone and George Romney was born in Mexico. Neither had issues.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Ooohh I wonder if Newt's going into fuck-you mode already
then how was george romney able to run
googleplex
Member
Well, your first mistake was forgetting to turn off the logic centers of your brain.
Apparently also having your mom be a US citizen fulfills the requirement as well.
oh, so obama is a us citizen even if in some alternate universe, he was born in kenya?
cartoon_soldier
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He wasn't Black, so nobody really cared.
So new theory for tape release is they want to get inside Obama's head. lol.
I just confirmed for myself and it looks like inorder to qualify and be born out of the country BOTH of your parents need to be US citizens. You also have to have lived in the US for 15 years min.
Manmademan
Member
It doesn't matter where you're born if at least one parent is a citizen.
If you're born on us soil, it doesn't matter if your parents are citizens or not thanks to the 14th amendment.
The only us citizens NOT qualified are those that were naturalized and originally had citizenship elsewhere, due to the possibility of divided loyalties or whatever.
Racist tea parties would love to convince you otherwise to find any excuse as to why Obama isn't REALLY president, but it ain't so.
Except in the alternate universe where birthright citizenship isn't in the Constitution, yes. That's really the best part of the controversy.
speculawyer
Member
But you see . . . your ideology and bias has blinded to what he actually said. You've been told by Hannity what he supposedly said. But in reality, Obama did NOT suggest that these people give up either their guns or their religion. Furthermore, unlike Romney's dismissive 47% comment, Obama was not dismissive of these likely opponents and said that you'd find Obama supporters among them.
Obama said:
RustyNails
Member
So...there was a debate between Eric Cantor and a Democratic challenger on Monday? First time in 10 years Cantor is forced into a debate?
When Cantor was being a whine baby about personal attacks, Powell let this one rip
Another one
Whole bunch of zingers. Probably fallen to deaf ears though. No way Cantor loses this.
speculawyer
Member
George Romney dropped out so the issue was never fully litigated.
Works better if you watch the video. He doesn't say what you're suggesting he said at all.
Manmademan
Member
Don't be dense, it would never have gone to litigation.
But even so, George Romney was at one point the front runner for the nomination and later served as a cabinet member under Nixon. If there was even a shred of possibility he might not have actually been qualified to serve due to not actually being a citizen, he never would have gotten that far. Opposition research not to mention party vetting would have eliminated him immediately.
Rhomega Beta
Member
Eh, I don't even watch Fox News. I'm just passing along what I find on Facebook.
Facebook can get as bad as the comment section under a foxnews.com article.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Did we discuss the polls?
NBC/WSJ, O+3 49-46
Also, posted?
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/02/ryan_said_30_want_a_welfare_state.html
NBC/WSJ, O+3 49-46
Also, posted?
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/10/02/ryan_said_30_want_a_welfare_state.html
NullPointer
Member
I suppose thats one way to fill in for Kosmo. And you never foolishly expect a reply from an image, so there's less disappointment too.
jamesinclair
Banned
How about that Romney?
wth is with the phone thing? I must have missed something cause the other stuff is more of the same.
Seen this Obama ad today (shorter version). It's pretty good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYI7qPO5wVw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYI7qPO5wVw
jamesinclair
Banned
By "vetting" do you mean "he was white and rich"?
Pretty good zingers though
thezerofire
Banned
Are you guys going to do an IRC for the debates? I have a feeling like the thread is going to be too slow of a format for it
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