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JB1981 · Mar 9, 2007

Nostromo said:
It's taken from a realtime cutscene and slightly touched up, it should represents how she will look when we ship the game (artists are tweaking everything..)

when might that be?

Bad_Boy · Mar 9, 2007

Nostromo said:
It's taken from a realtime cutscene and slightly touched up, it should represents how she will look when we ship the game (artists are tweaking everything..)

he speaks.

mckmas8808 · Mar 9, 2007

TheIkariWarrior said:
that image cannot be realtime, not even realtime cutscene. i eat a broom if im wrong.

u_neek · Mar 9, 2007

WOW!

Why does it look even better than that other real-time cutscene pic of her?

TheIkariWarrior · Mar 9, 2007

well if that image is in fact realtime, generated on the fly by CELL+RSX, I'd like to know if it's running at even 30fps. I suppose they could get away with 20fps cutscenes.

I question it, because it appears to be on a whole different level than cut-scenes that are obviously realtime.

anyone else agree ?

Y2Kev · Mar 9, 2007

Enjoy your broom.

*fap fap fap fap fap fap fap*

Not to the broom eating, that's a little strange.

mashoutposse · Mar 9, 2007

TheIkariWarrior said:
that image cannot be realtime, not even realtime cutscene. i eat a broom if im wrong.

you're really living up to your tag

Pusha · Mar 9, 2007

Why is is so hard to believe it's realtime? Look at Little Big Planet. Clearly, when rendering just a face, the PS3 is capable of doing that realtime. I'd be shocked if it wasn't. It's just a face, people.

Mmmkay · Mar 9, 2007

TheIkariWarrior said:
well if that image is in fact realtime, generated on the fly by CELL+RSX, I'd like to know if it's running at even 30fps. I suppose they could get away with 20fps cutscenes.

I question it, because it appears to be on a whole different level than cut-scenes that are obviously realtime.

anyone else agree ?

You're trying too hard AirRaid.

Oldschoolgamer · Mar 9, 2007

Nostromo said:
It's taken from a realtime cutscene and slightly touched up, it should represents how she will look when we ship the game (artists are tweaking everything..)

:O

:O

mashoutposse · Mar 9, 2007

Nostromo said:
It's taken from a realtime cutscene and slightly touched up, it should represents how she will look when we ship the game (artists are tweaking everything..)

can we see the raw image with no pshopping?

bud · Mar 9, 2007

TheIkariWarrior said:
if they can manage to pull of 60fps instead of the current 30, then I say, WOWOMFG.

i guess you not say WOWOMFG since it's 30fps

WTFBBQLOLPS3

Y2Kev · Mar 9, 2007

Mmmkay said:
You're trying too hard AirRaid.

He's AirRaid?

I actually commend him on being so controlled then.

fmcato · Mar 9, 2007

Nostromo said:
It's taken from a realtime cutscene and slightly touched up, it should represents how she will look when we ship the game (artists are tweaking everything..)

Still in time to include some weapon like a broom? You could shove it up the enemies' mouth or something.

TTP · Mar 9, 2007

Nostromo said:
It's taken from a realtime cutscene and slightly touched up, it should represents how she will look when we ship the game (artists are tweaking everything..)

Your artists are >>>>> your engine coders :lol

Mmmkay · Mar 9, 2007

Y2Kevbug11 said:
He's AirRaid?

I actually commend him on being so controlled then.

Yes he is, and touché.

bud · Mar 9, 2007

Mmmkay said:
Yes he is, and tuché.

fixed

OR SHOULD IT BE TWOSHEY

Y2Kev · Mar 9, 2007

Mmmkay said:
Yes he is, and touché.

2shay, mmmkay, twoshei

Mmmkay · Mar 9, 2007

bud said:
fixed

OR SHOULD IT BE TWOSHEY

bud · Mar 9, 2007

Mmmkay said:

tooshei mmmkey twushay

TheIkariWarrior · Mar 9, 2007

fine, i start munching on brooms now :lol

kaching · Mar 9, 2007

Seriously, if that was pre-rendered, they totally would have rendered her nostrils. TOTALLY. The alleged graphic experts around here who can tell us exactly what is realtime and what isn't really let me down with their attention to details.

peonic · Mar 9, 2007

Only touch up work done on the image was a quick re-do of the specular highlighting on the eyes, the blurring on the background, and then resizing and jpeg'ing.

kaching · Mar 9, 2007

TheIkariWarrior said:
fine, i start munching on brooms now :lol

post pics please

Y2Kev · Mar 9, 2007

kaching said:
Seriously, if that was pre-rendered, they totally would have rendered her nostrils. TOTALLY. The alleged graphic experts around here who can tell us exactly what is realtime and what isn't really let me down with their attention to details.

They did, you just can't see them because of Depth of Face.

TTP · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
Only touch up work done on the image was a quick re-do of the specular highlighting on the eyes, the blurring on the background, and then resizing and jpeg'ing.

Nice. Thank you for being so specific!

kaching · Mar 9, 2007

Y2Kevbug11 said:
They did, you just can't see them because of Depth of Face.

:O Impressive! But you should still see the tips of her nosehairs curling out at the openings.

theBishop · Mar 9, 2007

If the cutscenes are actually real time, then i want to ability to pause and move the camera around.

mr_nothin · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
Only touch up work done on the image was a quick re-do of the specular highlighting on the eyes, the blurring on the background, and then resizing and jpeg'ing.

You're second post in almost a year?
:lol

bud · Mar 9, 2007

theBishop said:
If the cutscenes are actually real time, then i want to ability to pause and move the camera around.

That would be really cool. The only games that came close to doing this were MGS2/3 but it wasn't really much beside zooming in and moving the camera to the left/right. Hopefully MGS4 will have a feature like this

TTP · Mar 9, 2007

theBishop said:
If the cutscenes are actually real time, then i want to ability to pause and move the camera around.

Oh, I know where u want to point that camera.

peonic · Mar 9, 2007

mr_nuthin said:
You're second post in almost a year?

I just lurk to make sure nAo doesn't break his NDA

RavenFox · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
I just lurk to make sure nAo doesn't break his NDA

Rody · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
I just lurk to make sure nAo doesn't break his NDA

So you are a Sony Ninja...

bud · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
I just lurk to make sure nAo doesn't break his NDA

too late since he already revealed the releasedate

mr_nothin · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
I just lurk to make sure nAo doesn't break his NDA

lol, I said WOW'

its funny because its probably true

Y2Kev · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
I just lurk to make sure nAo doesn't break his NDA

Can you turn down Depth of Face and turn up High Dynamic Range Chemical Peeling?

kaching · Mar 9, 2007

Y2Kevbug11 said:
Can you turn down Depth of Face and turn up High Dynamic Range Chemical Peeling?

Also, what's up with her right ear? It looks like a ghostly onion ring.

alterego · Mar 9, 2007

u_neek said:
WOW!

Why does it look even better than that other real-time cutscene pic of her?

The other stuff we've seen was from about 5 months ago according to Deanoc.

Anyway, WOWOWOWEOEOWOOW at this being realtime (even with a bit of blur being applied to the background).

mr_nothin · Mar 9, 2007

mckmas8808 said:
NEW SCREENSHOT!!!!!!

She is ****ing gorgeous.

quoted for new comers and of course, great justice

u_neek · Mar 9, 2007

So is the final cutscene model gonna look like this:

or like the clearly superior Nariko model in the new shot?

Creamium · Mar 9, 2007

unreal

JB1981 · Mar 9, 2007

u_neek said:
So is the final cutscene model gonna look like this:

or like the clearly superior Nariko model in the new shot?

"Artists are always tweaking."

kaching · Mar 9, 2007

u_neek said:
So is the final cutscene model gonna look like this:

or like the clearly superior Nariko model in the new shot?

Both, as dictated by differing lighting conditions.

MickeyKnox · Mar 9, 2007

u_neek said:
So is the final cutscene model gonna look like this:

or like the clearly superior Nariko model in the new shot?

I think the model is there already, the biggest difference being the lighting conditions, very soft lighting in the "better" one VS very bright and harsh in the one you posted, with the white bleed obscuring skin detail.
Other than that and the heavy blur used on the hair I think it's there.

Lord Error · Mar 9, 2007

peonic said:
Only touch up work done on the image was a quick re-do of the specular highlighting on the eyes, the blurring on the background, and then resizing and jpeg'ing.

So no photoshopping of highlights on the nose and lips? Impressive if so.

bud said:
That would be really cool. The only games that came close to doing this were MGS2/3 but it wasn't really much beside zooming in and moving the camera to the left/right. Hopefully MGS4 will have a feature like this

SotC did it too, as well as ZoE2 and European version of Ico. I agree, they should do it!

megateto · Mar 9, 2007

That new screenshot made me say: uncanny valley qué?

Stunning, simply stunning.

Really looking forward to see that cutscene.

mckmas8808 · Mar 9, 2007

megateto said:
That new screenshot made me say: uncanny valley qué?

Stunning, simply stunning.

Really looking forward to see that cutscene.

Yeah this game is just straight beautiful.

kaching · Mar 9, 2007

The lighting and angle of the new screenshot sorta makes her look like the main character from Beyond Good and Evil.

megateto · Mar 9, 2007

kaching said:
The lighting and angle of the new screenshot sorta makes her look like the main character from Beyond Good and Evil.

Emotions, that's what I see on the pic. And that is going to be on a videogame, and I will be able to control her. I can't believe that it's just a videogame.

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