Actually I was going to italize "feel" like in my posts before
Are you talking about holding it during the whole battle? I obviously only press when the ATB bars are full, so it doesn't take much effort, no.
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Final Fantasy 7 Remake Announced (First on PS4)
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Actually I was going to italize "feel" like in my posts before
Are you talking about holding it during the whole battle? I obviously only press when the ATB bars are full, so it doesn't take much effort, no.DoktorEvil
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Character Action FF7, developed by Platinum Games.
The Silver
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time to give Cloud the Guts physique
having recently replayed it for the millionth time, morrigan's right, the game is easy as fuck.
For me turn based combat really, really shines in competitive multiplayer like Pokemon. Competitive Pokemon is one of my favorite games ever, but single player Pokemon kind of bores me.
I guess it's a controversial thing to say but I dunno, single player turn based RPGs to me just feel like playing chess against a computer. I just don't find it them fun anymore, and mostly push through the combat to get to the good stuff I like (story, most of the time).
I want to PLAY Advent Children's fights.
I guess it's a controversial thing to say but I dunno, single player turn based RPGs to me just feel like playing chess against a computer. I just don't find it them fun anymore, and mostly push through the combat to get to the good stuff I like (story, most of the time).
I want to PLAY Advent Children's fights.
Go_Ly_Dow
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Our Lord Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
The Silver
Member
I'll accept action based if when I control Tifa the game turns into God Hand
Mexen
Member
Totally agree with this.
Via Purifico
Banned
Our Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
Actually I was going to italize "feel" like in my posts before
I dunno, man, I don't know what people do who say they're mashing in a turn-based game.
ShadowSoldier89
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its not like its not possible, but it is a lot of work to have a deep action combat with 9 playable characters, some of which are a 4 legged beast and a stuffed animal. All characters have to be playable too or FF7's story cant be told (without being fucking ruined completely) or they would have to make at least 3 playable
cloud, tifa, and cid
I find action RPG highly unlikely, and thank god for that
Digital-Hero
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If it uses FFXIII's battle system, how many people would be on suicide watch? LOL Kitase is credited in the trailer right?
I'd honestly prefer that anyways. I was more excited for VS when I thought it was action based, with the ability to switch party members. I would not be cool with action based if all you could do is control Cloud, its jus not how FF is suposed to be. I think they are going to have to have to hold back on a few things to stay true to the OG, and that's a good thing IMO. They always try to over do it and it always ends up hurting the rest of the game's fundamentals.
DoktorEvil
Banned
I know it'll be updated ATB 2.0, but I still want to see the angry posts about Nomura and SE if it isn't.
The real issue I'd have with action RPG is losing control of the other 8 characters that aren't Cloud.
Meccanical
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Kitase didn't decide what battle system FFXIII had.
But he did help make FFXIII into a movie.
sorry I'm going back and forth on convos here but I'm catching up on the thread and can't resist this
shakespearean
shakespearean
AuthenticM
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They will already do this just by rebuilding the game from the ground up. Are you seriously expecting the exact same bosses with the same statistics and attacks ? You are the one dreaming, my friend.
deriks
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Rogue Agent
Banned
Same here. I'll be so disappointed if we only control Cloud.
Agreed 100% with this.
Our Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
You're my favorite.
threelights
Member
Technically they can't make Cloud be the only playable character, unless they retcon one of the biggest events of the game =P
ShooterMcGavin
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Compared to FF 13? Yes. Including its optional "bosses".
Every FF game I have played was uber easy - even the first time around. With the exception of FF 7 and 12, which had at least optional bosses that needed some strategy to figure out. The latter was mostly just time consuming tho. First time playing through FF 7 was sometimes challenging. Can't be said for FF 13 or other FFs for the most part. It's definitely not "piss easy" to say the least, in particular compared to 13.
Meccanical
Member
AuthenticM
Member
Our Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
yes
Disagree.
I also don't really care if something super easy is sligthly less easy than another super easy game.
What do you think is more work? Changing how enemies and bosses work in a new ATB system or completely rethinking how every boss and enemy works in an action RPG? I think you're forgetting just how many enemies were in this game.
Meccanical
Member
I think it's the same amount of work honestly.
Either way the system will be all new.
mysteriousmage09
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Our Lord Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
Amazing.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
Our Lord Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
Praise be to Jenova.
encephalon
Member
Prerendered backgrounds would just mean more work put into the backgrounds themselves and isn't really ideal for something that's not extremely constrained like the remake is.
I never understood the criticism for pressing O to win in FFVII. It's not an action-game, like why are you guys knocking because it's turn-based? Like you should get on all JRPG's then that are turn-based. Even the strategy games as well. I really hate that veterans talk all of this smack on the FF battle systems like that. They are speaking from a post-casual position. I can say any game is easy. HURR DERR SEE????
Scrooge McDuck
Member
To clarify: when they say "press O to win" the mean "press nothing but O to win, not even the directional button". Basically, they are implying that you just need to choose "Attack" over and over and over. Doesn't really require much strategy in that scenario.
Dice//
Banned
shakespearean
Eugh, I hated that they made a "one winged angel" real...it's so impractical. The dude's gonna fly in circles or hover a bit.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Only just saw the Gematsu article and I am SUPER worried.
I really didn't want to even consider the possibility of skipping an FF7 remake, but I might if it's Kingdom Hearts. At least until someone mods the PC version to be classic ATB if it's possible.
I really didn't want to even consider the possibility of skipping an FF7 remake, but I might if it's Kingdom Hearts. At least until someone mods the PC version to be classic ATB if it's possible.
Yeah, I really want to see how you guys are mashing X after getting to Pulse.
FFVII was ridiculously easy during battles, especially since you can buff your characters to be however you want them to be with given Materia.
And yes, the dialogue in CC was pretty bad. Worse than FFXIII's dialogue.
FFVII was ridiculously easy during battles, especially since you can buff your characters to be however you want them to be with given Materia.
And yes, the dialogue in CC was pretty bad. Worse than FFXIII's dialogue.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
Can you give me an example of any game that has this, or how it would even work?
illmatic22
Banned
Nomura shall lead us to the promised land. O CAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN!
cosmicblizzard
Banned
That's not FULL party control. That's controlling a character, and then switching over to control another one.
When someone says full party control, I assume they mean simultaneous like in turn-based RPGs. Real-time character switching is not that.
Our Lord Nomura, who art in Japan,
Hallowed be FF7 Remake.
Thy release come.
Thy game be done
On PS4, as it is on PS1.
Give us this day our action combat systems,
And forgive us for our turn based,
As we forgive those who turn based against us.
Lead us not into random battles,
But deliver us a visible enemies.
For thine is 2015,
The era of real-time battles,
For ever and ever.
With character switching.
threelights
Member
Of course it is.
You have control over your full party at any moment. How is that not full party control?
Unless you want the game to play like Army Corpse of Hell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUsDF7uJEI
cosmicblizzard
Banned
If your party members are acting without your input, then it isn't full party control. No matter how well you can direct the A.I., it's still not total control. Star Ocean, Tales, Kingdom Hearts and all other ARPGs are like this.
Having control over a single character in your party at any time is different than having control over your full party at any/all times.
threelights
Member
You can directly control anyone at any time. Direct control, you switch to the character and start using that one. How is that not full party control?
I'm not talking about KH. KH has only one playable character at a time and any teammates are controlled by AI. Star Ocean you can change at any time, FFType-0 you can change at any time, etc etc.
YankeeDonB
Member
Seriously? Playing 13 "right" (I.e., getting A ranks and finishing battles in under 6+ minutes) requires a great deal more planning, timing, and on-your-feet thinking than anything in 7 outside of the weapons. And turtle toppling is as hard or harder than handling the weapons prior to over-leveling. 7 does most things better than 13, but providing consistent challenge in battles is not one of them.
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