FrankNitty
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This is true but only 4:2:0 8bit. The trick is finding one that can do 10bit, 4:2:2, 4:4:4, and or 4:2:0 10-12bit
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This is true but only 4:2:0 8bit. The trick is finding one that can do 10bit, 4:2:2, 4:4:4, and or 4:2:0 10-12bit
PleaseBeGentle_
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so I managed to order a 40 inch j6250 (german j6300 without 3D) for 399
anyone got any hands on experience with the j6300?
anyone got any hands on experience with the j6300?
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Re. the 829. If your eyes can tolerate the slight flicker/loss of light output of 60Hz strobing (obviously this is optional) then I'd argue all day long it's one of the best TVs you can game on. Running a high end PC with an unfaltering 60fps combined with almost full motion resolution provided by the backlight strobing is incredible.
http://www.blurbusters.com/sony-motionflow-impulse-mode-reduces-motion-blur-without-interpolation/
Terbinator
Member
I've got the 705 (has the LED switching mentioned above) and couldn't fault it TBH.
Apparently the 829 has a screen coating for the 3D that you might be perceptible to.
Chase Lebowski
Member
Thanks guys, I ended up ordering the 50" 829. It's my first TV with this size, previously I had a 42. Can't wait!
I've got the 55 inch W800B from Sony. You're going to like the 50. These are great sets for gaming.
That's a great site, and I agree that they are very helpful.
That's a great site, and I agree that they are very helpful.
MissCauthon
Member
Oh wow thank you for that site, very interesting and helpfull. Upgrading my tv soon so this site will be very handy.
rtings is a pretty great resource, the only thing i don't like about them is they still havent review a single oled tv.
SeeNoWeevil
Member
Calibrate it, turn on Motionflow Impulse*, put on a 60fps game, marvel.
* Turn off power saving, crank the backlight, dim the room.
http://www.lg.com/au/tvs/lg-60UF850T
Thinking of pulling the trigger on this bad boy to replace my ancient 720p 42'' hdtv that i've been running the last 6 years.
Anyone have any experience with this? I love LG as a brand and think they make some of the best tv's on the market. Got around $3k AUD to spend on this and would also be interested in a decent soundbar.
Usage will be hooked up to XBoxOne, PS4 and my HTPC - so really full multimedia experience.
Thoughts?
Thinking of pulling the trigger on this bad boy to replace my ancient 720p 42'' hdtv that i've been running the last 6 years.
Anyone have any experience with this? I love LG as a brand and think they make some of the best tv's on the market. Got around $3k AUD to spend on this and would also be interested in a decent soundbar.
Usage will be hooked up to XBoxOne, PS4 and my HTPC - so really full multimedia experience.
Thoughts?
Jigolo
Member
I asked them about it and they said it's not on the top of their list of priorities because so few people have one. But they do plan on reviewing them in the future.
Hey! So I've been looking for a TV for the bedroom and so it doesn't need to be huge and I've been looking at Vizio's M series. I've seen that input lag is really low and it has a lot of other decent features. My roommate recently got a 48 inch Sony KDL48Wsomethingsomething and that seems great and I believe even cheaper than the M series. I also see most other people in here usually talking about Sony or Samsung, but I just can't see myself paying so much (1000+) for those sets unless its a living room TV or the faults with Vizio (bad viewing angle?) cannot be overlooked.
I guess my question is this: For the price, is there really anything better for mostly gaming or will the viewing angles bother me (I think I saw that mentioned in this thread anyway) and I should just splurge (maybe a few hundred more) on a bedroom TV? Also, should I still get the M series TV if I can find the P series for a comparable price? Is P better in most cases or...?
I guess my question is this: For the price, is there really anything better for mostly gaming or will the viewing angles bother me (I think I saw that mentioned in this thread anyway) and I should just splurge (maybe a few hundred more) on a bedroom TV? Also, should I still get the M series TV if I can find the P series for a comparable price? Is P better in most cases or...?
Most sources say last year's P series has better local dimming, but this year's M series appears to win out in terms of scaling. Given that most current content is scaled, that would suggest the M series to be better for most people.
Ah, k! And what of the viewing angle? Deal breaker? It really is the one thing keeping me from pulling the trigger (and the fact that there may still be a much better tv within a couple hundred dollars for the price?).
Edit: maybe I'm just being dumb about viewing angle. It's not like I'll watch it more than 19 degrees off center anyway
Yeah I read that too :/ And it sucks since the E series beats it in that category. Ugh. I'm just unsure at this point.
Final Edit: Seems like maybe Samsung UN55J6200 is a better option
What's the best value 55 inch TV out now? I liked the vizio e series from what I've read but there's no 55 inch version.
Will be using it for movies and games. Don't think I'll need or want 4k/120hz type features.
I bought Vizio P-Series 4k 55 inch, didnt really care for 4k, but after reading reviews, i found out that it has really low input lag, i love how low it is, its even lower than my sony r550. And it costs only 1K
anexanhume
Member
Yeah the low input lag is a huge plus for me. How is it for 1080p and 720p content?
Quality is very good, like when i tried GTA5 on vizio, it upscaled the game a little, but without increasing input lag. So to put it in simple words, i am actually thinking of selling my Sony R550 70 in living room and get another Vizio P-series 70
If there's anyone looking for tthe KDL-55W700B, it looks like the Sony Store has them on clearance.
Wasn't expecting to get a new TV any time soon, but considering this model is kind of rare in the states, couldn't help but pull the trigger. Also before you ask, the link says refurbished, but the product should be new, if phone calls are anything to go by.
Wasn't expecting to get a new TV any time soon, but considering this model is kind of rare in the states, couldn't help but pull the trigger. Also before you ask, the link says refurbished, but the product should be new, if phone calls are anything to go by.
I am an idiot. Should have bought Sony 605B/705B. Now it can't be found anywhere. The new 705C has much bigger input lag I've heard
Any good options in the 500-600€ price range?
I'd buy a gaming monitor for coach gaming but they are too small and don't have HDMI for consoles.
EDIT. I'm think I'm gonna just buy a gaming monitor at some stage. Keep my old tv because it's still fine for Wii U gaming.
Any good options in the 500-600€ price range?
I'd buy a gaming monitor for coach gaming but they are too small and don't have HDMI for consoles.
EDIT. I'm think I'm gonna just buy a gaming monitor at some stage. Keep my old tv because it's still fine for Wii U gaming.
hoverboarder
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If anyone in South Florida is looking for a new TV, I'm creating a well priced bundle:
Sony 2014 4K 3D Triluminous XBR55X850B ($1499)
Sony HTCT770 2.1 Soundbar with tweeters ($450)
4 years remaining transferrable Best Buy Geek Squad In Home Service (~$300)
I'd like to let it all go for $1300. Getting a good deal on a new setup and want to pay it forward. I know this belongs in Buy/Sell/Trade, but just in case I thought I'd post it here first.
Sony 2014 4K 3D Triluminous XBR55X850B ($1499)
Sony HTCT770 2.1 Soundbar with tweeters ($450)
4 years remaining transferrable Best Buy Geek Squad In Home Service (~$300)
I'd like to let it all go for $1300. Getting a good deal on a new setup and want to pay it forward. I know this belongs in Buy/Sell/Trade, but just in case I thought I'd post it here first.
after getting a new UHD tv, I think i want something that doesnt change the image that comes into the tv.
Something like my studio monitors, that plays what is sent into them.. dont distort the sound.
My tv feels like it makes contrast filters etc... I want to see what is sent into it. nothing else.
Something like my studio monitors, that plays what is sent into them.. dont distort the sound.
My tv feels like it makes contrast filters etc... I want to see what is sent into it. nothing else.
Pagusas
Elden Member
if its a Samsung use HDMI input 2 and set it to PC, thats about as close to a raw, unprocessed image as you'll get.
Bornstellar
Member
Just a quick update on the LG 55EC9300. Still leaves me plenty impressed and I'm slowly dialing in my settings to be properly calibrated (I've managed to get a bit of equipment for the task). Went and saw Rogue Nation in theaters and was disappointed that my TV produces a better image. ;p
Think it will hit ~$1,500 during Black Friday?
Rabid Wolverine
Member
My Samsung 55 Inch D7000 broke down recently (on and off clicking no picture), Got all my money back, time for a new TV.... which will definitely not be Samsung.
Need advice... my 2 Choices are.
$3099AUD LG 55EC930T OLED - http://www.lg.com/au/tvs/lg-55EC930T
or
$2700AUD Sony KDL-65W850C - http://www.sony.com.au/product/kdl-65w850c
Usage for all round - Movies, PC Gaming, PS4, XBOX ONE, WII U, Sega Saturn, 16Bit Emulation. Sports (NFL). Only interested in 1080p, waiting for HDMI 2.0a before upgrading to 4K.
What should I go for? 65 LED LCD will be massive but that OLED factor!
Need advice... my 2 Choices are.
$3099AUD LG 55EC930T OLED - http://www.lg.com/au/tvs/lg-55EC930T
or
$2700AUD Sony KDL-65W850C - http://www.sony.com.au/product/kdl-65w850c
Usage for all round - Movies, PC Gaming, PS4, XBOX ONE, WII U, Sega Saturn, 16Bit Emulation. Sports (NFL). Only interested in 1080p, waiting for HDMI 2.0a before upgrading to 4K.
What should I go for? 65 LED LCD will be massive but that OLED factor!
Chase Lebowski
Member
Why impulse? I'm playing with just game mode and I'm loving it. Impulse is too dark.
I personally say OLED, especially since you're sticking at the 1080p resolution.
Bought a 65" Vizio M series this week. Incredibly happy with it. After dialing in the picture settings to the CNet review the picture surprised me. My fathers plasma is the best home PQ I've ever seen and I didn't think this Vizio could provide me with similar impressions, but with a good quality source it really does. Maybe it wouldn't stand up to side by side comparisions, but in isolation the PQ is stunning. Especially on great sources (BD of Avengers, Lego Movie, etc).
I bought it this week mostly to watch the DOTA2 international. It didn't disappoint. I was running the native client off the GTX580 in my HTPC, so no 4K PC out, but at 1080p/60 (didn't try 120) it was super clear. I was tempted to bring down my 970 for the week to run the client in 4K, but I'm not sure how much PQ I would really gain. The 1080 looked sharp and crisp and watching some 4K netflix there certainly isn't an "OMG" difference in sharpness/quality. Given the lack of 4K/60 4:4:4 and how good 1080p looked I'd be much more likely to run 1080p/120/4:4:4 when gaming in the future.
Because I watched so much DOTA I didn't do a whole lot of gaming myself this week, but a couple quick PS4 games showed the low latency to work well and I didn't find any motion blur to complain about (though I'm not super sensitive).
I still have lots of things to test on the TV, one of them being how it handles/how laggy are 240i/p sources from my old consoles. I'd love a framemeister but don't have a money.
All and all 5/5 for what I was going for. There are aspects of the Sony/Samsungs that I was looking at that might be better. I got real deep in reading AVS arguments about the merits of what had better this and that based on ratings and numbers. I told myself size was more important than quality to a point and the Samsung I was looking at (7100) was nearly double the price of the Vizio so i choose a bigger Vizio than a smaller Samsung and expected to only have so-so PQ. However, after spending a week with the TV the PQ is great and I'm glad I didn't spend the extra money on the samsung.
I bought it this week mostly to watch the DOTA2 international. It didn't disappoint. I was running the native client off the GTX580 in my HTPC, so no 4K PC out, but at 1080p/60 (didn't try 120) it was super clear. I was tempted to bring down my 970 for the week to run the client in 4K, but I'm not sure how much PQ I would really gain. The 1080 looked sharp and crisp and watching some 4K netflix there certainly isn't an "OMG" difference in sharpness/quality. Given the lack of 4K/60 4:4:4 and how good 1080p looked I'd be much more likely to run 1080p/120/4:4:4 when gaming in the future.
Because I watched so much DOTA I didn't do a whole lot of gaming myself this week, but a couple quick PS4 games showed the low latency to work well and I didn't find any motion blur to complain about (though I'm not super sensitive).
I still have lots of things to test on the TV, one of them being how it handles/how laggy are 240i/p sources from my old consoles. I'd love a framemeister but don't have a money.
All and all 5/5 for what I was going for. There are aspects of the Sony/Samsungs that I was looking at that might be better. I got real deep in reading AVS arguments about the merits of what had better this and that based on ratings and numbers. I told myself size was more important than quality to a point and the Samsung I was looking at (7100) was nearly double the price of the Vizio so i choose a bigger Vizio than a smaller Samsung and expected to only have so-so PQ. However, after spending a week with the TV the PQ is great and I'm glad I didn't spend the extra money on the samsung.
ewwwww motionflow. fake frames and soap opera effect FTL.
Motionflow Impulse is backlight strobing, not frame interpolation. The motion resolution is really impressive, but there's a huge loss in brightness.
FrankNitty
Member
Impulse is legit. Really what almost everyone should be using if they own a Sony. If not Impulse Clear or Clear Plus at the very least.
Yeah I used Impulse when I had my X900B and it was great. I calibrated mine though so set it at 40ftL when using Impulse and it was good. Used Impulse for Night mainly and one of the Clears cannot remember which exactly for Day at about 47ftL
Unknown Soldier
Member
It's too bad Impulse isn't available in Game Mode on Sony's 4K TVs
Sony wryyyyyyyyyyy
What game is that in the first picture? It looks beautiful with the colors.
Heroes of the Storm.
That said, I think it's an OLED trait to make colors pop like that. I think most games will look incredible on it. Definitely hoping the new flat OLED will be received well so I can pick it up next year after pricedrops.
ss_lemonade
Member
Impulse though is like the lightboost hack for 120hz monitors or one those ULMB modes, but at 60hz. No soap opera effect there. Looks amazing with only slight ghosting and a drop in overall brightness (which I get used too after using impulse for some time).
Yikes. I think impulse is (thankfully) the only motionflow mode available for my 1080p set when in game mode so that does suck it doesn't work the same for 4k tvs
Aztechnology
Member
picked up the 4k Samsung curved 48" JS9000
Works amazing as a PC monitor too(with 4:4:4)
Contrast and black levels are fantastic. PC & PS4/Xbone look amazing. Outside of an OLED its about the best Ive seen from an LCD.
This is what I'm getting! Albeit at 55" Currently I have a Vizio 4k P series which is awesome as it does 1080p@120hz with minimal input lag. But its not without issues, limited color and no 4:4:4 4k@60hz for the future. I've been working for best buy about a month now and I get an insane deal on Samsung TV's. I can't justify the JS9500 even with my discount because of the size. But the JS9000 looks to be perfect.
Aztechnology
Member
Motion interpolation. Each company has their own name for how much interpolation they can achieve. Essentially it's creating and inserting fake frames between the real frames to make it look smother.
You're experiencing what's known as the soap opera effect.
Bornstellar
Member
Most new TVs have an option that uses interpolated frames to smooth out the picture.
Turn it off.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
If they made monitors at the sizes I wanted, I'd probably never consider buying another TV.