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Werewolf |OT| Was it all just a Dream?
- Thread starter Palmer_v1
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What could we possibly learn from more talk? The only flip we will see today is QB's, he is the only option. We'll just be going around in circles about Rats and Time and then learn nothing because we still won't know if they are town or not tomorrow. The next 20 hours of talk will be meaningless without votes on other candidates and there is only one option today.
I thought about a similar plan (except i had time and rats the other way around lol). But how can we ensure the neutral acts the way we want him to?
In your scenario, if nobody attempts to kill Time, then that doesn't count towards QB's win condition (which actually seems quite difficult to begin with). Not sure how much we can trust him lol.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Would first want to see how rats flipped, but something like this. I've never heard of a neutral that wins by getting himself lynched
Hyperactivity
Banned
The game ends after sk is killed, don't you know guys?
I mean, who else is there to go after other than that?
Hey,
I asked Palmer what would happen, if a hypothetical X-Shot-Vigilante was roleblocked, would they lose their shot?
Palmer stated, that the hypothetical-vigilante wouldn't lose their shot, if the vig themselves were roleblocked, or jailed (by a hypothetical roleblocker, or jailor).
That means, Swamped was not roleblocked or jailed at least, if she is telling the truth. That gives us less possibilities about what happened to her shot.
I asked Palmer what would happen, if a hypothetical X-Shot-Vigilante was roleblocked, would they lose their shot?
Palmer stated, that the hypothetical-vigilante wouldn't lose their shot, if the vig themselves were roleblocked, or jailed (by a hypothetical roleblocker, or jailor).
That means, Swamped was not roleblocked or jailed at least, if she is telling the truth. That gives us less possibilities about what happened to her shot.
Alright, guess this one comes from a matter of experience.
Er, I could do it myself now... But I'm honestly still not sure about the idea. I'll defer to consensus, I guess.
Hyperactivity
Banned
And he basically would have to if he wanted to ever try and fulfill a win condition of his
If he misbehaves we could lynch him tomorrow... but yeah there's not really a lot of incentive to do what we say, he won't achieve his win condition either way.
Which will never happen if we "use" him to kill scummy players scum would never kill.
Hyperactivity
Banned
No it doesn't NX was a shithole, with stupid townies. And they caught scum via night actions. That's quite a bit different from threats openly outing themselves, because in that case scum wan time to prepare a defense
Vs., oh I don't know, a self-outing
Crimson, take your vote off of QB, we're too close to majority
Hyperactivity
Banned
So you're saying, rather than give scum the ability to kill, we give a neutral the killing power, make him choose his targets, etc.
I'll do the equivalent of flipping a coin, I haven't really decided yet
QuantumBro, are you a cat person, dog person, or neither?
I don't understand what you are saying here
QuantumBro
Banned
So I'm just going to quickly respond before I get lynched
On targets:
N1: I was busy most of the at week since it was Thanksgiving. I basically decided to avenge Darryl with my pick since I didn't want my action to go to waste
N2: I went with the sheriff since I thought they would be the target due to Cabot's reasoning.
N3: I gave up any hope of rescuing someone and decided to go full vigilante, and then ironically I saved someone.
On bomb:
Bomb kills anyone who targets me at night. I don't know where the it kills the hammer theories came from.
On possible targets:
You guys think I would actually list my targets and give the mafia some idea of who not to target, haha.
And yeah, Czartim and Kingkitty are blatantly scum, please get them in the future days. Less so would be Rats imo.
On targets:
N1: I was busy most of the at week since it was Thanksgiving. I basically decided to avenge Darryl with my pick since I didn't want my action to go to waste
N2: I went with the sheriff since I thought they would be the target due to Cabot's reasoning.
N3: I gave up any hope of rescuing someone and decided to go full vigilante, and then ironically I saved someone.
On bomb:
Bomb kills anyone who targets me at night. I don't know where the it kills the hammer theories came from.
On possible targets:
You guys think I would actually list my targets and give the mafia some idea of who not to target, haha.
And yeah, Czartim and Kingkitty are blatantly scum, please get them in the future days. Less so would be Rats imo.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Deciding whether I want him lynched or not by the end of the day. Because a part of me is still saying that I'm currently arguing to let an sk run loose, and its a stupid idea
CrimsonFist
Member
In the list QB put out, are lot people I have put on to my "possibly Scum" category. However, if QB would do as he says, and these people would be town, there would be two kills per night. And if none of them are scum, we will enter lylo quickly, something I'm not a fan of. In nothing else, this should give town more time (more days).
That's wifom :>
I could see hyper-wolf making a big ruckus over a turbo vote to look like he cares a lot about the village's best interests. Turbo or no-turbo it shouldn't make a huge difference as long as no one does anything rash.
Scum would want him alive. They win sooner with him alive. I don't know why a 3P would play against his win condition to help town.
CrimsonFist
Member
I am completely in favour of lynching QB today, I don't believe he's completely telling the truth, and his role isn't helping town much. I'll put my vote back on if needed closer to the deadline.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Maybe
CrimsonFist
Member
What it it with these roles and Ultron though?
First QB tries to "save" Ultron and not Drop, the obvious nk target, then Bats revives Ultron and not Drop, the confirmed townie.
First QB tries to "save" Ultron and not Drop, the obvious nk target, then Bats revives Ultron and not Drop, the confirmed townie.
Hyperactivity
Banned
And scum historically tend to love to pile onto lynching neutrals
Also, SKs, at least from what I've seen, tend to try and keep things pretty balanced. They don't want either side to gain any major advantage. Right now, we are 8 town down, with 1 scum member to show for it
He is not a normal sk and our vig hit the scum?
Hyperactivity
Banned
I don't know why you are bringing what a normal sk would do into this?
CrimsonFist
Member
In theory QB's role is fairly pro-town. Seeing as it's in his favour to save night kill targets, who are usually going to be townies, especially with the Vig out of shots.
And so scum choose a less likely kill choice and we are to down two townies instead of one.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Honestly, he's probably hiding a win condition based on killing somewhere in there
CrimsonFist
Member
I said "in theory"
I want an answer to my Ultron question QuantumBro.
I want an answer to my Ultron question QuantumBro.
QuantumBro
Banned
Like I said earlier, I targeted him to "avenge" darryl. I didn't read through d1 till the second game.
No idea if he has any kind of power, though I would guess not since batsnack saved him. He was my main target till that point.
CrimsonFist
Member
That makes no sense. Your win criteria as you've described it only benefits from you saving people. Why would you use it to kill someone knowing that?
Why would you have no idea when he claimed to be a Sleepwalker??
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Deleted member 231381
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I'm just hanging around in this thread because I can use vowels here.
You don't want to be in this thread. Trust me. Vowels are overrated.
Based on the thread's activity, it seems that people are just chomping at the bit to see the inevitable happen anyways, and how we interpret that moving forward. Plus, there's a lot I don't get about QuantumBro, even if his role claim is truthful. Visions of Zipped. So...
Vote: QuantumBro
Vote: QuantumBro
