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Rooster12 · May 4, 2016

BadAss2961 said:
Speaking of Superman, and in the spirit of digging up old interviews, I saw this one brought up. George Miller on Superman. Actually, it's just from last October.

Sounds like he wasn't far off from what Zack's trying to do. Sounds Darker if anything. I know a lot of Superman fans are tired of hearing about him being flawless.

George Miller would have done better regardless of how he viewed Superman.

But I think Batman is actually the more straight-forward character, parents was shot, he trains and becomes the dark knight of vengeance. The end.

Superman is a bit tricky. Why is he a reporter? Why doesn't he take over the world? Why does he do what he do? Why does he love the planet so much? Why doesn't he just fry Lex from a mile way? Why does Lex hate Superman so much? Why doesn't he solve everyone's problems? Why doesn't he solve hunger? Why? Why? Why? These are themes that can explored forever.

antovolk · May 4, 2016

a916 said:
Where is that in the movie?

Is that

post Superman death?

Yes

MisterHero · May 5, 2016

duckroll said:
Marvels is nothing at all like Kingdom Come. Snyder would do a terrible job of adapting it because what makes Marvels work is not the Ross visuals, but the humanity in the narration. It's about a reporter following the dawn of superheroes from pre-WW2 through the decades and providing a civilian view of the major milestones of the Marvel universe. It's really good but people don't talk about it just like how they don't talk about The Marvels Project. Because people have bad taste. The Marvels Project rocks too. Because Ed Brubaker rocks.

Disagree almost entirely. The pictures I posted can tell stories even without word bubbles. But I do appreciate the perspective of Sheldon, just as I do Norman McKay.

I'd like a movie that encapsulated a superhero's/comic universe civilian's life all into one movie. Trilogies/Universes are kind of obligatory now.

Wonder Woman could've covered the last 100 years but it's like she fought in WW1/Belgium and disappeared after that. Captain Kirk got friendzoned.

thehypocrite · May 5, 2016

This needed to happen in the movie:

Just imagine that Lex isn't there.

BadAss2961 · May 5, 2016

antovolk said:
HD Chinese bootleg recording.

Checked out the screens for this release. That is one quality bootleg.

Saving myself for the Ultimate Cut Blu-ray.

IconGrist · May 5, 2016

thehypocrite said:
This needed to happen in the movie:

Just imagine that Lex isn't there.

How I despise that art style, lol.

unholyrevenger72 · May 5, 2016

thehypocrite said:
This needed to happen in the movie:

Just imagine that Lex isn't there.

Yeah, i expected this, not him tackling a guy through a wall.

BadAss2961 · May 5, 2016

thehypocrite said:
This needed to happen in the movie:

Just imagine that Lex isn't there.

Supes doesn't seem to have quite that kind of speed in this universe. That kind of stuff will be saved for Flash. In fact he already did it in BvS.

thehypocrite · May 5, 2016

The Icon said:
How I despise that art style, lol.

It's different but it doesn't bother me. I guess I have an eclectic taste.

unholyrevenger72 said:
Yeah, i expected this, not him tackling a guy through a wall.

Yes, these would have been more suitable for him & lois.

BadAss2961 said:
Supes doesn't seem to have quite that kind of speed in this universe. That kind of stuff will be saved for Flash. In fact he already did it in BvS.

But they had Faora zooming around MOS, it they had done that people would have roll with it.

MisterHero · May 5, 2016

I hate, HATE that Snyder doesn't use slow motion to depict super speed. Maybe Smallville did it too much.

BadAss2961 · May 5, 2016

thehypocrite said:
But they had Faora zooming around MOS, it they had done that people would have roll with it.

Yeah, she had it. Maybe she was a gifted athlete back on Krypton or something.

Still, with JL in consideration, Supes having that kind of speed would undermine Flash.

MisterHero said:
I hate, HATE that Snyder doesn't use slow motion to depict super speed. Maybe Smallville did it too much.

I'm 99% sure he'll use some slow mo for Flash.

thehypocrite · May 5, 2016

BadAss2961 said:
Yeah, she had it. Maybe she was a gifted athlete back on Krypton or something.

Still, with JL in consideration, Supes having that kind of speed would undermine Flash.

I'm 99% sure he'll use some slow mo for Flash.

Maybe

I would imagine it wouldn't be a problem if you show he's clearly faster than Supes though.

MisterHero · May 5, 2016

What does it matter though.

Both create shockwaves when they move faster than sound. More destruction porn incoming. ~~Speed Force can negate shockwaves~~

Neither can naturally time travel though. Flash was attached to some machine and armor. So Reeve Supes could take Cavill in a fight. Then he'd time travel to prevent the fight from ever happening.

Discotheque · May 5, 2016

Xmen quicksilver is the standard for live action super speed imo. Makes it humorous but also baffingly powerful too that everything is so mundane and slow to him.

BadAss2961 · May 5, 2016

Discotheque said:
Xmen quicksilver is the standard for live action super speed imo. Makes it humorous but also baffingly powerful too that everything is so mundane and slow to him.

Flash should turn out a lot better. Quicksilver's big scene was cool, but he's a comical character that kinda breaks the movie with the way they show his speed. Any sense of threat is removed with him as he makes it all look too easy.

I expect Snyder to capture the same sense of speed with Flash, but more dramatic. More of a kick to it.

Penguin · May 5, 2016

You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

Magwik · May 5, 2016

Penguin said:
You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

Like at its worst, BvS is just an incredibly acceptable/mediocre movie with pacing issues.
I cant comprehend at all where people see a movie thats so bad that they would rather watch Batman and Robin. There is just nothing so bad about the movie to justify the hyperbole.

Discotheque · May 5, 2016

BadAss2961 said:
Flash should turn out a lot better. Quicksilver's big scene was cool, but he's a comical character that kinda breaks the movie with the way they show his speed. Any sense of threat is removed with him as he makes it all look too easy.

I expect Snyder to capture the same sense of speed with Flash, but more dramatic. More of a kick to it.

yeah that's what i want. ezra miller is suited to play the member who never shuts the hell up. and i want him to be hilariously over-powered. these are comic movies. suspension of disbelief always has to happen.

the way to stop him is to have him go up against a brick wall of a villain, have him distracted and slip up etc.

but effects-wise i think xmen quicksilver is the ideal. the way singer showed how he perceived the environment was awesome, and he was absurdly fast.

since snyder loves his spectacle maybe he can also have crazy lightning aftershock being the only thing people can see from the flash.

broncobuster · May 5, 2016

Discotheque said:
Xmen quicksilver is the standard for live action super speed imo. Makes it humorous but also baffingly powerful too that everything is so mundane and slow to him.

I'm excited to see him expanded in Apocalypse. My nitpick with practically every speedster in live action Has to do with the acceleration, momentum, and stiffness of the characters. Often makes super speed resemble time manipulation.

Weird reference, I'd love Flash to have a BTTF Delorean effect. He has a trail but he's so fast it doesn't appear for a second or two after he passes.

Penguin said:
You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

jrush64 · May 5, 2016

This is Neogaf where Chrono Cross is a considered a terrible game. Chrono Cross. Everything is either amazing or terrible. There is no room for middle ground.

Ninjimbo · May 5, 2016

Penguin said:
You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

Next time OT makes a BvS thread, don't go to it. Discussion is dead.

Seriously though, I feel ya. It's an awful environment to wallow in. Too much bile to get through and nobody is interested in even talking about the movie beyond lame potshots at Snyder and movie economics. That's why I don't even bother.

IconGrist · May 5, 2016

I remember all the times I've been told Batman v Superman is the worst movie they've ever seen. I recall these statements as my wife currently watches Bring It On: All or Nothing. I am now jealous that those people haven't seen movies as bad as I have.

duckroll · May 5, 2016

MisterHero said:
Disagree almost entirely. The pictures I posted can tell stories even without word bubbles. But I do appreciate the perspective of Sheldon, just as I do Norman McKay.

I didn't say they couldn't, it's just not what I really like about it. Without the unique perspective in the narrative, the cool art is just a really nicely drawn "Best of Marvel" montage. If that's what the adaptation of Marvels is, I wouldn't care for it at all. That's my point. It would be pretty, but so's Sucker Punch.

kmfdmpig · May 5, 2016

Penguin said:
You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

It is ridiculous. I don't like BvS, but there are certainly great aspects to it such as cinematography, Wonder Woman, Batman, Alfred. Batman and Robin has no redeeming qualities except the ironic it is so bad it's good appeal.

Discotheque · May 5, 2016

broncobuster said:
I'm excited to see him expanded in Apocalypse. My nitpick with practically every speedster in live action Has to do with the acceleration, momentum, and stiffness of the characters. Often makes super speed resemble time manipulation.

Weird reference, I'd love Flash to have a BTTF Delorean effect. He has a trail but he's so fast it doesn't appear for a second or two after he passes.

http://i.imgur.com/cYTrT0j.gif[/mg][/QUOTE]

Yeah something like the delorean effect would be cool and also maybe violent aftershocks of wind if he goes especially fast

Loxley · May 5, 2016

Penguin said:
You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

After three years of relentless Man of Steel bashing - like it was actually the cinematic manifestation of Satan himself - nothing shocks me anymore regarding the amount of dog-piling the internet will do on a single film. I actually came around to liking MOS more as a direct result of how much it had been bashed by folks. Like, whoa guys, it had it's fair share of problems but it wasn't goddamn Superman IV. Chill out

duckroll · May 5, 2016

Getting mad that other people don't like what you do is pointless and stupid. Especially on the internet. Who the fuck cares? You're not forced to read every opinion or to reply to it. Actually letting it affect you is a character flaw. Learn from me, loyal fan of Michael Bay. The internet cannot hurt you! Complaining about other people's opinions just makes you look petty.

MisterHero · May 5, 2016

Loxley said:
After three years of relentless Man of Steel bashing - like it was actually the cinematic manifestation of Satan himself - nothing shocks me anymore regarding the amount of dog-piling the internet will do on a single film.

Darkseid is reaching from the comics universe, to the movie universe, to the real world to drag us down into utter misery.

Anti-Life is real

Anth0ny · May 5, 2016

Discotheque said:
Xmen quicksilver is the standard for live action super speed imo. Makes it humorous but also baffingly powerful too that everything is so mundane and slow to him.

This. I'd love to see Superman go full Quicksilver on someone on film at some point.

Loxley said:
After three years of relentless Man of Steel bashing - like it was actually the cinematic manifestation of Satan himself - nothing shocks me anymore regarding the amount of dog-piling the internet will do on a single film. I actually came around to liking MOS more as a direct result of how much it had been bashed by folks. Like, whoa guys, it had it's fair share of problems but it wasn't goddamn Superman IV. Chill out

For me it's the hatred Dark Knight Rises gets.

I'm positive if someone made a "What's worse, Dark Knight Rises or Batman and Robin?" we'd still get the bullshit "DKR is bad bad at least B&R is funny bad" posts.

duckroll · May 5, 2016

Anth0ny said:
I'm positive if someone made a "What's worse, Dark Knight Rises or Batman and Robin?" we'd still get the bullshit "DKR is bad bad at least B&R is funny bad" posts.

Let's be fair. Batman and Robin is only 2 hours long. The Dark Knight Rises is almost 3 hours long. If you dislike both and were forced to watch one, wouldn't you pick the one which wastes the less amount of time?

Tabby · May 5, 2016

Penguin said:
You know, I've always been against OT bashing in here... but think they finally broke me with the super stupid BvS vs Batman and Robin thread.

This site can turn you against everything it seems.

I'm still waiting for the inevitable "Batman v Superman or F4NTASTIC?"

DecoReturns · May 5, 2016

duckroll said:
Getting mad that other people don't like what you do is pointless and stupid. Especially on the internet. Who the fuck cares? You're not forced to read every opinion or to reply to it. Actually letting it affect you is a character flaw. Learn from me, loyal fan of Michael Bay. The internet cannot hurt you! Complaining about other people's opinions just makes you look petty.

so true. Especially considering everything you love is hated and terrible on the Internet.

Loxley · May 5, 2016

duckroll said:
Getting mad that other people don't like what you do is pointless and stupid. Especially on the internet. Who the fuck cares? You're not forced to read every opinion or to reply to it. Actually letting it affect you is a character flaw. Learn from me, loyal fan of Michael Bay. The internet cannot hurt you! Complaining about other people's opinions just makes you look petty.

Hey you're talkin' to a dedicated fan of these craptacular turds:

FEEL THE WRATH YOU GUYS

The only movie I will actually fight someone over for disliking is Master & Commander. And this is coming from someone who's favorite film of all time The Fellowship of the Ring. Rip that thing to shreds for all I care, but don't you dare touch Russel Crowe's perfect, flowing blonde ponytail.

bryanee · May 5, 2016

duckroll said:
Learn from me, loyal fan of Michael Bay.

I sometimes forget I'm not the only one.

IconGrist · May 5, 2016

Tabby said:
I'm still waiting for the inevitable "Batman v Superman or F4NTASTIC?"

I thought we had that already? Wasn't a thread but I distinctly remember the conversation.

I like a lot of terrible movies. I'd be an awful critic, lol. I watched Gun Woman the other day.

hamchan · May 5, 2016

Anth0ny said:
For me it's the hatred Dark Knight Rises gets.

I'm positive if someone made a "What's worse, Dark Knight Rises or Batman and Robin?" we'd still get the bullshit "DKR is bad bad at least B&R is funny bad" posts.

Nah, B&R would actually win that worse movie poll.

BadAss2961 · May 5, 2016

Discotheque said:
yeah that's what i want. ezra miller is suited to play the member who never shuts the hell up. and i want him to be hilariously over-powered. these are comic movies. suspension of disbelief always has to happen.

the way to stop him is to have him go up against a brick wall of a villain, have him distracted and slip up etc.

but effects-wise i think xmen quicksilver is the ideal. the way singer showed how he perceived the environment was awesome, and he was absurdly fast.

since snyder loves his spectacle maybe he can also have crazy lightning aftershock being the only thing people can see from the flash.

Yeah, can't complain about his effects or the execution of it all. What Singer was going for, he nailed it. On the other hand, AoU Quicksilver was hot garbage in every direction.

broncobuster said:

lol. I've thought to myself for awhile that FilmGAF is pretty bogus, but whatever. Opinions and all that. It is what it is.

Cheer up Penguin.

guek · May 5, 2016

The schadenfreude behind BvS has gotten pretty out of hand as of late but let's not pretend some parts of DC-gaf wouldn't have been just as insufferable with the chest thumping and horrible CBM wars bullshit if it had been better. There's too much of an "us vs them" mentality altogether.

Poodlestrike · May 5, 2016

guek said:
The schadenfreude behind BvS has gotten pretty out of hand as of late but let's not pretend some parts of DC-gaf wouldn't have been just as insufferable with the chest thumping and horrible CBM wars bullshit if it had been better. There's too much of an "us vs them" mentality altogether.

Yeah. This place nearly went to shit after the movie dropped anyway, there would've been a loooooot of that if it proved the "haters" wrong.

That said, considering that one of those scenarios is hypothetical, and the other is actual, I know which I find more annoying

Ahasverus · May 5, 2016

guek said:
The schadenfreude behind BvS has gotten pretty out of hand as of late but let's not pretend some parts of DC-gaf wouldn't have been just as insufferable with the chest thumping and horrible CBM wars bullshit if it had been better. There's too much of an "us vs them" mentality altogether.

... nah, we'd be in cinematic heaven after a great Doomsday, BvS and CW combo.

Loxley · May 5, 2016

guek said:
The schadenfreude behind BvS has gotten pretty out of hand as of late but let's not pretend some parts of DC-gaf wouldn't have been just as insufferable with the chest thumping and horrible CBM wars bullshit if it had been better. There's too much of an "us vs them" mentality altogether.

I mean really all of this just goes back to those childhood DC vs Marvel fights that will never, ever, end. I'll admit my interest in the MCU up to this point has been fairly half-hearted, but that's only because the Marvel characters I really care about - Spidey and the X-men - haven't been involved.

Superman is my favorite superhero of all time, without question. However, it was Spider-Man that actually got me into reading comics (specifically John Romita Jr's run in the early 2000's). So I've been yearning for him to show up in the MCU to make me really care about anything that's happening beyond the events surrounding Captain America specifically. From what it sounds like he's one of the best parts of Civil War, so I'm excited as hell.

IconGrist · May 5, 2016

guek said:
The schadenfreude behind BvS has gotten pretty out of hand as of late but let's not pretend some parts of DC-gaf wouldn't have been just as insufferable with the chest thumping and horrible CBM wars bullshit if it had been better. There's too much of an "us vs them" mentality altogether.

"Schadenfreude"

I've been seeing this word a lot lately but that is a conversation for another time.

Anyways, I sort of disagree. Sort of. While I do believe there would have been some chest thumping I bet you in your heart of hearts know maybe 3 individuals from DCEU-GAF that would have acted in such a way. There may have been a couple of outliers. Posters who none of us see much but I do believe it would have been kept to a minimum. If BvS had been well received I think the conversation about it would have died out much in the way the well received MCU movie conversations die out. Heavy talk for 3 weeks and then it fades. Only to be brought up again when someone sparks up a Marvel vs DC conversation about why MoS sucks or IM3 is secretly the best.

Places like r/DC_Cinematic and SHH would be disaster pits (much like they are now but for the opposite reason).

johnnydrama · May 5, 2016

I started playing The Witcher 3 Hearts of Stone today and noticed something quite peculiar. The main theme of this expansion and Batman v Superman trailer 2 music sound oddly similar at certain points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fis-9Zqu2Ro&feature=youtu.be&t=77

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHg3fI5cW7k&feature=youtu.be&t=60

Dead · May 5, 2016

One way or another we will still be arguing about Man of Steel 5 years from now more than anything anyways.

guek · May 5, 2016

The Icon said:
"Schadenfreude"

I've been seeing this word a lot lately but that is a conversation for another time.

Anyways, I sort of disagree. Sort of. While I do believe there would have been some chest thumping I bet you in your heart of hearts know maybe 3 individuals from DCEU-GAF that would have acted in such a way. There may have been a couple of outliers. Posters who none of us see much but I do believe it would have been kept to a minimum. If BvS had been well received I think the conversation about it would have died out much in the way the well received MCU movie conversations die out. Heavy talk for 3 weeks and then it fades. Only to be brought up again when someone sparks up a Marvel vs DC conversation about why MoS sucks or IM3 is secretly the best.

Places like r/DC_Cinematic and SHH would be disaster pits (much like they are now but for the opposite reason).

Maybe. Like Poodlestrike said, only one scenario actually played out and everything else is hypothetical.

My general predisposition though is to always expect the worst out of people on the internet

BadAss2961 · May 5, 2016

Godspeed, Aquamomoa. Our one and only Justice League source.

Dead said:
One way or another we will still be arguing about Man of Steel 5 years from now more than anything anyways.

I don't know. BvS will be competitive. Wait till it hits video.

IconGrist · May 5, 2016

guek said:
Maybe. Like Poodlestrike said, only one scenario actually played out and everything else is hypothetical.

My general predisposition though is to always expect the worst out of people on the internet

Haha, too true my friend.

Anyway, this time tomorrow I will be in the Civil War spoiler thread hopefully having some productive conversation.

lovely ladies · May 5, 2016

BadAss2961 said:
Godspeed, Aquamomoa. Our one and only Justice League source.

Lol, it's true, at least we know the movie is actually filming thanks to him.

broncobuster · May 5, 2016

Discotheque said:
Yeah something like the delorean effect would be cool and also maybe violent aftershocks of wind if he goes especially fast

I liked how the big kryptonian in the Smallville fight, who I should start calling Nappa to save time, would create a sonic boom effect when he dashed around.

Ahasverus · May 5, 2016

Am I crazy thinking he could make a great shaved Aquaman too?

Maybe he'll get this look in the future and become a bit more classic looking. He's really handsome.

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