SubiyaCryolite
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This, my first thought was Aborigine and then I see everyone calling her black and Im like ?????
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Uncharted 4 New Character Trailer: Nadine Ross (Laura Bailey)
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Blackleg-sanji1
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Lol clearly i need to do like my avatar and present gaf with a sundae we gotta chill out...
I hope it doesn't mean the thread will be locked soon.
get it ice cream..chill.........I'll stop
Triggerhappytel
Member
Great cutscene, and amazing visuals. Really almost looks like live action, and the animation is incredible. It'd be really great if this woman was one of the main antagonists in the game. Although I have a feeling she'll end up joining Drake and his band of superfriends.
stargateheaven
Member
If you didnt know who the voice actress was, i think this whole white actress playing a black woman thing wouldn't be a problem.
And why does it matter? Black people don't always "sound different". Especially British where i live.
also these graphics look amazing and i can't wait for extended cut trailer tomorrow at PSX
And why does it matter? Black people don't always "sound different". Especially British where i live.
also these graphics look amazing and i can't wait for extended cut trailer tomorrow at PSX
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
god damn, this looks sooooo freaking good in my note 5
Andy Believes
Banned
Well, strong girls like to dress up too. Just because someone in strong does not mean that they go about in fatigues, track pants or tank tops all day - and I mean that from a man's as well as woman's perspective.
Hey Daniel "James Bond" Craig wears dress pants and shirts while fighting. Do you want him in fatigues or track pants?
I'm not sure that would clear things more up. A south african actress can also play an australian
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Yeah, the beta has pretty noticeable transparency dithering on foliage too (just get the camera so that a big leaf is close to the camera, and you'll see what I mean. I chucked that to a 60FPS cutbacks though. The shadows there get the same kind of treatment which is bad, considering they didn't do that in any other SP UC4 footage that I can think of.
I think the fact that people are debating whether it's fair that a black character is a good thing. In the practice of the industry, such things are pretty common across voice acting, since you really just need to find a VA that sounds appropriate to a person's character. And frankly, there's no inherent distinction between voices of black people and white people that I know of. It also bring to mind the question of whether a white person can be behind the creation process of black characters. Like, would a white writer be able to write a black character without being offensive?
The answer to all these seems to me to be obvious. There's nothing wrong going on here, especially given that ND has a history of being conscientious about depicting minorities. But the fact that people are having a debate about it is a good thing. It means they're conscientious about it as well. It makes for a little more turbulance on the forum and perhaps in this case it's a little misplaced, but I prefer that than people not questioning if the representation is appropriate in the first place.
The answer to all these seems to me to be obvious. There's nothing wrong going on here, especially given that ND has a history of being conscientious about depicting minorities. But the fact that people are having a debate about it is a good thing. It means they're conscientious about it as well. It makes for a little more turbulance on the forum and perhaps in this case it's a little misplaced, but I prefer that than people not questioning if the representation is appropriate in the first place.
That's actually been visible in at least one of the single player demos they've done. I think the PSX footage from last year.
lukeskymac
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It was actually visible during the E3 demo as well, at the very beginning of the demo.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
More Laura Bailey is always good.
Honestly, trying hard doesn't cut it for me. It's either correct and consistent or it's not. There are few things more jarring than listening to an actor doing a bad accent. I don't really want to condemn her accent based on a few lines but it didn't sound too promising.
When it comes to accents from Africa people get away with really shocking stuff across all entertainment. But if people heard an actor butcher a French or US accent you'd see how quickly people would pile in. Well, I guess many people don't know the difference. I do think it's pretty funny everyone losing their sh*t over not having a black VA when the accent they are attempting isn't even spoken by, like, 99% of black South Africans.
The Artisan
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Blackleg-sanji1
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Holy hell veelk not only is this the first time I've seen you in gaming side but we also freaking agree on something. Maybe it's just a one piece thing lol
Lol we are terriblelol yeah I got it. It's a nice avatar
Nice and chill...yes pun intended
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Something I just realized - Druckmann was born and grew up in South Africa. So I figure, he'd definitely have an ear to judge if Bailey is able to pull off the accent right or not.
Dictator93
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Was it on in the cutscenes though? I know it was in gameplay
Whose post are you talking about? I can't find it.
Because it is goddamn hard for black actors to land any roles at all and not being able to play black characters is even worse?
As a New Zealander, I can confirm that.
XxRampage07xX
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I just figured out something
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
Blackleg-sanji1
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Lmao! No way its all QTE like the order but expect someI just figured out something
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
CassidyIzABeast
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Can ND provide us the VA demos so we can properly judge if the Black actors weren't good enough for this role?
It wasn't in the first big PSX gameplay demo, but it was in the E3 demo including the cutscene at the end of the extended demo. EDIT: You know, I'm watching this E3 2015 video on Gamersyde again and looking closer at the cutscene at the end, it appears the dithered shadows on characters are present there as well. It's just a lot harder to spot because the source video is much more compressed than this new video.
Here you can see motion blur on Drake's hand and dithered shadows on the paper:
Admiral Woofington
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They should go back to the uncharted 2 fighting. As long as it's not the uncharted 3 press triangle to win.
Shadow Ranger
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I just figured out something
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
It can only be better than swiping nonsense that was in GA.
Ghost Slayer
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I just figured out something
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
If they can make Indiana brawler in U3 then I have nothing to fear (pls use grab in other button, not in roll button)
XxRampage07xX
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I'll be perfectly fine if ND makes this boss fight similarly to the Talbot one in Uncharted 3. But man that camera angle kept making me think of The Order.
TheJollyCorner
Member
man, Laura Bailey is versatile!
On that vibrant, 2K screen? Now I gotta download that on my S6.
LookAtMeGo
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Her voice is pleasing to my ears.
I just watched in on my Note as well. Gah damn!
Do you mean you agree that it''s good that people are conscientious about it or that their conscientiousness happens to be misplaced in this particular instance?
BruceLeeRoy
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I just figured out something
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
It won't be anything remotely like that.
I could imagine that in this specific scene your movement options are limited and that there will be some QTE, but I also imagine that ND will manage to pull it off a lot more fun and interactive than The order did.I just figured out something
No wonder why I got some bad vibes after watching the trailer. But, I know ND will do much better. Please don't be another QTE boss battle like in The Order!
Ganzlinger
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Holy fuck that's amazing! :O
Blackleg-sanji1
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Both i mean you kno how much shit i give you for your sexism talk in the one piece threads but i never say your wrong. Its very good people are conscientious about this but you are right yet again tht this is indeed not the time to be and is misplaced.
TheLostBigBoss
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This is why ND is so amazing at characters. From what I've seen, they are the only ones who actually successfully recreate what an eye does with all the tiny movements and actions.
Everyone else has great faces, but the eyes are always dead.
Ah, the ol "i'm color blind guys!" thing.
Word of advice, don't do that.
GwyndolinCinder
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Now all we need is Ashley Johnson and squad is back together!
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
yea but he's doing Blindspot and is like a major supporting character.
which makes me a little concerned for her availability for TLoU 2
King of Cups
Member
Sigh...in this thread, we showcase people's hidden ignorance and/or skewed social awareness. Nowhere am I safe.
In other news, that shit looks AMAZING.
Thank. You.
In other news, that shit looks AMAZING.
Thank. You.
Ganzlinger
Member
People are seriously complaining about graphics? The scene looks fantastically beautiful to me. The new character looks great as well.
Regarding voice actors I don't care much about their ethnicity. At least here in Brazil we are used to have black VAs dubbing white actors and vice-versa.
Regarding voice actors I don't care much about their ethnicity. At least here in Brazil we are used to have black VAs dubbing white actors and vice-versa.
Fancy Clown
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They have the exact same melee except 3 has a shove, more animations, and doesn't slow down time for counters. Square is punch, triangle is counter in each.
It will probably be close to the U3 system, the game is not going to turn into SF5, melee will be there to spice things up, but shooting is what you'll do most of the time during combat.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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It would be great if Drake won the fight the smart way by shooting her and leaving.
But, dude, you literally just said in the last post this is the first time you agreed with- You know what? Fuck it, I'll take the compliment. Glad we agree.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I prefer she loses pulls out a gun and says "what you thought this was a fist fight?" Bang. Lol
Goddamit veelk dont ruin the moment you over analyzing bastard take the damn compliment shake my cyber hand and lets do it!! Lol
Ps. You can agree with someone nd still think theu are wrong lol.
Or when they do the inevitable mid-fight tango dance thing she grabs him by the throat and snaps his neck.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Hmmm than we play as elena out for revenge? I like it!!
jackissocool
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Yo she ain't black, she's Australian aboriginal