They don't seem that pricy compared to many Saturn titles based on here:
https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_fro...yo+satu.TRS0&_nkw=tenchi+muyo+saturn&_sacat=0
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sega Saturn Appreciation and Emulation Thread
- Thread starter Seik
- Start date
They don't seem that pricy compared to many Saturn titles based on here:
https://www.ebay.ca/sch/i.html?_fro...yo+satu.TRS0&_nkw=tenchi+muyo+saturn&_sacat=0
davidwhangchoi
Member
i want this!!!
Genesis Knight
Member
I think they're mostly quiz games and visual novels. So do you know Japanese?
cj_iwakura
Member
The plot twist is handled REALLY well in the game. I'd consider playing the game first.
Laevateinn
Member
I might. I haven't tried my copies (I have it on the PC-98 and Saturn) to see how beyond my language level it is. I'll try it out this weekend.
I played the game ages ago. I've been feeling like playing it again recently.
Bar81
Member
Thank you for these Amy. Great spreads for some amazing games. What issues were these in?
I'll have to look them up again. Will try to update on the weekend.
I just hunted down a bunch of previews & reviews for Saturn X-Men vs Street Fighter, which was a pretty big deal back then because of the 4MB RAM cart and the essentially flawless port because of it. Announced at or around Sept. '97 at the Tokyo Game Show and released before the end of the year in Japan, it got a lot of coverage in U.S. magazines into early '98
EGM
GameFan (Nov, Dec '97, Jan '98)
GamePro.
For whatever reason GamePro reivew says it's *almost* arcade perfect, but missing some animation, I don't quite believe them here, since that contradicts 99% of all other reviews and comments I've read over the years).
Aaand CVG (UK mag)
wow AmyS you've been busy !
Seriously that review..
Yeah, LamePro...
Yet GameFan said nothing about missing animation...
I dunno about the TV monitor thing in one of the BGs, though.
Aww manWas the case damaged? kinda suspect if it wasn't.
@AmyS Thanks for posting those scans, the CVG review makes me miss my magazine collection which was thrown out because of water damage. Probably my favourite video game magazine along with a few others.
nope everything arrived perfect just the game disc. I haven't even bothered looking at the manual or 2nd disc.
I can tell you although it's somewhat impressive seeing all those sprites bouncing around the screen it does feel a bit rushed with it's slowdown and some sprite flicker in the background particularly with Blackhearts background. I can remember waiting outside my importers back in the day along with several others for the game to arrive and be sold at the CEX shop based in central London.
Laevateinn
Member
Keio for the Saturn costs like 130 on eBay but when I got my copy in Akihabara it was only about 20. Did it shoot up in the past few years or was I lucky?
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
I got it for $80 from Japan so ebay prob not the best place to by anything if you can help it. Got Blast Wind for $100 same guy.
sixteen-bit
Member
More Saturn games!!!
Some real heavy hitters! Nice.
This is insane!!!
More Saturn games!!!
ExitPlanetDust
Member
Damn, some money right there. Fine picks.
RoryDropkick
Member
sigh* just received an item that was auctioned as "very good" from an ebay seller and the disc doesn't have a regular scratch but instead a crack and doesn't load. Contacting seller....
Falcom Classics 2? Bummer
Laws00
Member
More Saturn games!!!
LAWD JESUS!
yup got the first classics disc which I'm digging. The Ys bosses are harder on there compared to the turbografx CD version especially on the Saturn mode. The version I got has 2 discs which I think the 2nd one runs with the MPEG card and has fan service stuff with the voice actors and Falcom shop many moons ago.
Laevateinn
Member
I have this but haven't played it yet. Are they the PC versions or is it uniquely Saturn?
i only know the famicom, Master System and Turbografx versions of Ys.
According to Hardcore gaming:
JVC published two Falcom Classics compilations for the Saturn. The first package, released in 1997, contains a remake of Ys, alongside Xanadu and Dragon Slayer. The graphics obviously look a lot more detailed, but they're all a bit drab compared to the bright palette of the TurboGrafx-16 game, despite some nice new character portraits. The music, despite being redbook, also pales greatly in comparison, with very MIDI-esque arrangements. There's no voice acting or even much of an intro. But while the presentation screams "budget title," the gameplay has at least been suitably beefed up. While it takes a long time to level up (like in the old computer versions), Adol can finally run, as well as move diagonally. These small gameplay enhancements almost, almost make it better than the TurboGrafx-16 version. As a bonus, a certain version of the Falcom Classics bundle comes with an additional CD. It contains a CD drama, as well as a video of one of the voice actresses taking a tour of the Falcom store in Japan (and losing terribly at a game of Ys).
The second Falcom Classics package was released in 1998, featuring a remake of Ys II, as well as an older Falcom game called Asteka II: The Temple of the Sun. It seems like JVC put a bit more effort into this one - there's some voice acting, as well as an anime intro, and even scenes from the original Ys game with voiceovers, as if the publisher was trying to make an apology for the previous release. Otherwise, the enhancements are pretty much the same: more detailed graphics but less vibrant, and mediocre arrangements of the music. The second CD included with the limited edition simply has some music selections from Ys II and Asteka, since they aren't redbook on the game CD.
http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/ys/ys.htm
Laevateinn
Member
Cool. I have both but I haven't even opened them from the wrapping Traders puts them in. I should play them some time and compare to the X68000 version, which is the one I know best. Obviously, the graphics will be a lot different from that one but I was curious how close they made it to the MSX and PC-88 versions. Looks like they did more than the MSX Classics Collection which are pretty much the same as the originals.
Ys remake for Saturn? I either forgot about it, or wasn't really aware, but anyway...
Let's Play Ys for the Sega Saturn
Let's Play Ys for the Sega Saturn
Seriously. I love Astra SO much.
Btw Warnen - out of my OCD collector's curiosity - are all those games complete with spine card, reg. card and all the paper crap usually included? If so, is it difficult to get games in such conditions in the wild? I ask because I always assumed they are more like eBay-only material, for maximum profit.
These early development / pre-launch / post-launch Saturn articles from EDGE are spectacular.
Edit:
I also remember a late 1993 issue of Diehard GameFan had three artist renderings of Saturn from three different Japanese magazines.
Also, Video Games The Ultimate Gaming Magazine: July 1994:
And the July 1994 issue of EGM2 had a great special feature.
Edit:
I also remember a late 1993 issue of Diehard GameFan had three artist renderings of Saturn from three different Japanese magazines.
Also, Video Games The Ultimate Gaming Magazine: July 1994:
And the July 1994 issue of EGM2 had a great special feature.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Think wolf is the only one in that group that has both the spine card and registration. I would say only 1/8 of the games I have have both, maybe 1/3 has one or the other. Its not impossible to find but even if you don't get from ebay its going to cost extra to get them. They are not hugely important to me (especially the reg card) so if I had a choice I'd usually opt for the cheapest version.
I remember some of these articles, in the form of their U.S. Next Generation versions, but because EDGE magazine started much earlier than NG, I never got to see the early ones.
You know guys, sometimes I fantasize that NEC w/ Hudson had made the PC-FX into a console that played tons of awesome 2D sprite based games (like the PC-Engine family did, only at that time, with arcade quality 32-bit capabilities) plus at least some games that used the originally planned 3D polygon hardware that was meant to be in Project Tetsujin aka Iron Man.
i.e....
Really, a 32-bit PC-Engine successor, instead of a console that mainly targeted anime and FMV, which is what the PC-FX was, and stayed in Japan....
....But then I stop and realize that the Japanese Sega Saturn and its games are exactly what I was looking for, all along!
Yeah, it makes perfect sense.
Astra and Keio are lovely, in my opinion. Curious to hear your opinion on those two. ^_-
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
Haven't tried Keio yet, only get an hour or so a day to play so working to it. As for Astra, played it thru with Lettuce last night. I'm really liking the movement in the game, ducking under attack or going over then is new and fun. Kinda like fighting on a trampoline. Took me a few seconds to figure out I had to jump at the bosses head to do any damage.
I'll get more into after I try everything else I have. Got a few more games coming (only other big ones are Radiant Slivergun and Kingdom GPX), after that probably not going to be buying anything until the holidays so I'll have time for them all.
IrishNinja
Member
Amy S stays a treasure trove of info on here - the hype for Saturn was real. i was sour grapes on that shit for a solid 15 years afterwards before finally digging in, haha
IrishNinja
Member
i get this, but it's a worthy sequel - in my mind, Saga still finishes the series & Orta still feels like a well polished gaiden, but i get it
IrishNinja
Member
yeahhhh...but if eidolon's inn (RIP) is to be believed, the team chose that system, maybe they did so back when DC backwards compatibility was on the table? hard to say, not much from that era is really known, sadly.
Orta (especially over component) is fucking beautiful, but man does it get hard.
Orta (especially over component) is fucking beautiful, but man does it get hard.
IrishNinja
Member
i wanna agree but if the theory holds: sega leaving the hardware game at like their peak was unprecedented; asking which team wanted to continue on what hardware was really forward thinking, even if it clearly split the base
and i adore the GC but nahhhh any game not on the PS2 was gonna bomb, even the ones that did needed their shitty launch window to do well, cause sony brought the fire by the end of year 1 hardcore
i wanna co-sign this but with the cart slot we saw on the saturn, ehhhhhh
IrishNinja
Member
you're prolly right but contemporizing the PS2, think of this
looking back, it had an okay launch: SSX, tekken tag, timesplitters etc
but i bought in on summoner (...) which would soon be used for credit towards shemue cause if you had a launch PS2 it was dope for DVD's but the dreamcast was ON FIRE for actual quality
but yeah, like 13 months later & you had Devil May Cry, FF X, Metal Gear Solid 2 etc etc (dont let nobody convince you Bouncer was a good game). as the biggest sega fan on here, when GTA 3 dropped it was a wrap.
my point is: sony doesn't usually prep (vita aside) launch software worth a shit, so year 1 releases like a port of Orta would've killed, in my opinion.
looking back, it had an okay launch: SSX, tekken tag, timesplitters etc
but i bought in on summoner (...) which would soon be used for credit towards shemue cause if you had a launch PS2 it was dope for DVD's but the dreamcast was ON FIRE for actual quality
but yeah, like 13 months later & you had Devil May Cry, FF X, Metal Gear Solid 2 etc etc (dont let nobody convince you Bouncer was a good game). as the biggest sega fan on here, when GTA 3 dropped it was a wrap.
my point is: sony doesn't usually prep (vita aside) launch software worth a shit, so year 1 releases like a port of Orta would've killed, in my opinion.
You saved the best for last (I've got a huge soft spot for Radiant...).
And yeah, Astra is super bouncy!