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Puzzle & Dragons |OT4| Co-op Edition: Stoning With Friends

Silent_Z

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Up to 127,356 and 20.8%.

Anyone got an educated guess what kind of score will stick in the top 25?

Probably 135k or better to hold top 10%. Remember damage bonus caps at 40M. 7 combo average, 182s left and max damage 40M netted me 146k. Lots of use active - swipe - cross fingers; only bothered comboing beyond a swipe on bowl dragon. I'm doing Ilmina/Ilm with Ilm and 3x R. Leilan subs.
 

W-00

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R. Leilan

Thank you for reminding me that she exists. I may not have Ilm or Ilmina, but R. Leilan can still partner with them and do considerable damage. Leilan/Leilan/Gadius/Elgenubi/Tsubaki/Ilm got me my highest ranking in this yet. Still not particularly high, but as I get more used to the team, I expect it will get better. Or if I find and Ilmina partner, since none of my friends have her up.
 

jiggle

Member
Probably 135k or better to hold top 10%. Remember damage bonus caps at 40M. 7 combo average, 182s left and max damage 40M netted me 146k. Lots of use active - swipe - cross fingers; only bothered comboing beyond a swipe on bowl dragon. I'm doing Ilmina/Ilm with Ilm and 3x R. Leilan subs.
What color ilmina and how do u swipe on leilan board?

May give ilm a try
I seemed to have plateaued at 130-132k with Anubis/Diablos
 

Bladelaw

Member
Up to 127,356 and 20.8%.

Anyone got an educated guess what kind of score will stick in the top 25?

That's the area I expect the most movement in. I'd push for 130k and keep and eye on placement over the next few days. If you want to give it a go I ran a bicolor non-casino Anubis/Diablos and managed to get into the top 10% at 143k
Anubis, Ilm, Sheena, Barbara, Barbara, Diablos (SBR badge)

Here's what I did:
Fl1: Combo out, 8c kills the floor, hope for skyfall from there.
FL2: pop a bicolor, combo the bottom half of the board and go
FL3: Combo out or pop Anubis to simplify the board then combo
FL4: Bicolor and combo
FL5: Bicolor and combo
FL6: Bicolor and combo

10.1 avg combo, 164 seconds left, damage capped easily (something like 240 million damage). Comboing the bottom half on the bicolors helps facilitate skyfall, less random than a casino team but it has a lower cap because combos take time. I saw a ~1% run with 14.1 avg combos with ~130seconds left on the clock so if you can properly combo a whole board quick that's certainly viable.
 

Silent_Z

Member
What color ilmina and how do u swipe on leilan board?

May give ilm a try
I seemed to have plateaued at 130-132k with Anubis/Diablos

Light main attribute Ilmina

Swiping on a Leilan board is just doing something that doesn't ruin a combo and trusting your skyfalls. I only paid attention to what I was doing combo-wise for the bowl dragon floor and it still worked out well enough
 
On a tricolor board like kanna/leilan I'd probably do a slight amount of wiggling to ensure full ilm activation if I'm not confident the board will match everything, doesn't cost too much time.

Another thing that helps save time if you don't care about combo score and just want to go for speed is using the leftovers from a previous board activation
 

Bladelaw

Member
damnit JP is reducing mail storage to 60 days

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

RIP box space.

On the NA side I'm kind of in a holding pattern. I'm done with ranking, done with the challenge set, and done skilling up the stuff I need to. I can either farm tamas, catch up on tri-monster challenges, or spam A1/3/3p UDR. Trying to decide which is the best use of my stam. I think I'm going to run UDR just so I can get an Azathoth, I've had no luck spawning it yet and I guess I could use the excuse to farm up Cthuluhu and Nyarlathotep skill ups.

Also according to padx it looks like we'll be getting the king tan invades in select descends soon. That should be worth running for a bit to get a reserve of king tans.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
So how exactly do you manage/clear bomb orbs ? I think i stopped playing regularly when they were introduced and dont know how to engage them without it ending in a massive HP loss + death.
 

Bladelaw

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So how exactly do you manage/clear bomb orbs ? I think i stopped playing regularly when they were introduced and dont know how to engage them without it ending in a massive HP loss + death.

You need to match them, no cascades. If there are fewer than 3 bombs on the board you need to change them via a full board change (since no active currently changes bombs specifically). If you don't they wipe out all orbs in a + formation around the bomb and deal 25% (possibly 20% can't remember) of your max HP in damage PER BOMB.
 

Aesnath

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Increased my score slightly to 127,500, which has already slipped down to 21.6%

Probably 135k or better to hold top 10%. Remember damage bonus caps at 40M. 7 combo average, 182s left and max damage 40M netted me 146k. Lots of use active - swipe - cross fingers; only bothered comboing beyond a swipe on bowl dragon. I'm doing Ilmina/Ilm with Ilm and 3x R. Leilan subs.

Yeah, depending on how things work out, I don't always hit the full damage bonus. Right now I'm running Ilm/Kirko Another/R. Leilan/Melissa/Saria/Ilmina. It works OK, but I end up spending a lot of time making combos.

That's the area I expect the most movement in. I'd push for 130k and keep and eye on placement over the next few days. If you want to give it a go I ran a bicolor non-casino Anubis/Diablos and managed to get into the top 10% at 143k
Anubis, Ilm, Sheena, Barbara, Barbara, Diablos (SBR badge)

Here's what I did:
Fl1: Combo out, 8c kills the floor, hope for skyfall from there.
FL2: pop a bicolor, combo the bottom half of the board and go
FL3: Combo out or pop Anubis to simplify the board then combo
FL4: Bicolor and combo
FL5: Bicolor and combo
FL6: Bicolor and combo

10.1 avg combo, 164 seconds left, damage capped easily (something like 240 million damage). Comboing the bottom half on the bicolors helps facilitate skyfall, less random than a casino team but it has a lower cap because combos take time. I saw a ~1% run with 14.1 avg combos with ~130seconds left on the clock so if you can properly combo a whole board quick that's certainly viable.

I could probably swing something similar, but I sort of like having a board change for every floor; less thought. While I can definitely hit 8c on a 7x6, I usually need to look at the board for a moment first, which is not something I have the luxury of doing, it feels like.

I do appreciate the comment about starting from the bottom of the bicolor boards. I'll give it a shot. In general, they feel swingy, either I see a bunch of combos or everything is a 3c blob.
 

Bladelaw

Member
What's the go to team for this challenge? Is it just clearing as fast as possible, not about combos?

If you're referring to the ranking dungeon it's about both right now. top 1% teams are going to be a 7x6 lead a bunch of bicolor boards, and a prayer.

I watched Dzydzydino get a 0.5% score last night using the following strategy:
Ilmina (L/R)
Lescha
<Board refresh> <--the bat monster from the Gung ho PEM
Ilm
Ilmina (R/L)
Yog

First floor, Lescha and combo
second floor-->Board refresh and pray for a kill
floor 3-6 bicolor and loosely combo pray for skyfall

I don't have enough Ilms or an ilmina on my main to give this strategy a shot. Anubis/Diablos with a bunch of bicolors was enough to secure under 10% for me though.

EDIT: Just tried the above setup replacing L/R ilmina with Awoken Ganesha and R/L ilmina with Avalon drake and ran a couple times and improved my score a little. I need 3 light combos to kill on Kagu though so I need a bit more luck for a great run. Not worth the stones to chase but for those who have the option maybe look into it.
 

b33r

Member
I have been trying to pair with a 7x6 lead. I tried wedding bastet with ilmina, was pretty meh. Just tried ace bastet worth Diablos and that's not bad. 2 Verdandis, Sylvie, and ishida mitsunari. Skill boost badge. My green box isn't that fleshed out because I never ran a green team really, so some cards are under leveled and there is almost no plusses.

That being said, in testing it maxes damage cap easy peasy. I'll mess around with it as my Shiva Dragon score was like 24%. Since I have nothing else to spend stamina on I'll run this set up a few times, try to get to the next reward level. Have to have some luck with only 4 board changers.
 

jiggle

Member
Strange that they are only giving out male hunter for free from monster hunter collab
I guess they really want ppl to have a capable combo lead

I have been trying to pair with a 7x6 lead. I tried wedding bastet with ilmina, was pretty meh. Just tried ace bastet worth Diablos and that's not bad. 2 Verdandis, Sylvie, and ishida mitsunari. Skill boost badge. My green box isn't that fleshed out because I never ran a green team really, so some cards are under leveled and there is almost no plusses.

That being said, in testing it maxes damage cap easy peasy. I'll mess around with it as my Shiva Dragon score was like 24%. Since I have nothing else to spend stamina on I'll run this set up a few times, try to get to the next reward level. Have to have some luck with only 4 board changers.
If you have sakuya
100x Atk if paired with tachibana
 

Bladelaw

Member
Strange that they are only giving out male hunter for free from monster hunter collab
I guess they really want ppl to have a capable combo lead


If you have sakuya
100x Atk if paired with tachibana
If you clear the 4 monster challenge you get the female. On a related note anyone have a spare mizu purplefur? I'm swimming in snow globes.
 

b33r

Member
Strange that they are only giving out male hunter for free from monster hunter collab
I guess they really want ppl to have a capable combo lead


If you have sakuya
100x Atk if paired with tachibana

I do, not evolved though. I'm already at a reasonable place, will stick with bastet. Don't want to waste any more resources on this. Plus ace bastet/Diablos hits 102x anyway. Thanks though.

@bladelaw I need to that purple fur too heh.
 

jiggle

Member
If you clear the 4 monster challenge you get the female. On a related note anyone have a spare mizu purplefur? I'm swimming in snow globes.
They didn't reset that challenge
So ppl that got it last time won't get another one :(

I actually do have an extra purple fur
No.3672 yes?

Edit: wait, u need it on jpn or Na account?
@bladelaw I need to that purple fur too heh.
Damn D:
I'll let u know if I get another one
 

Bladelaw

Member
They didn't reset that challenge
So ppl that got it last time won't get another one :(

I actually do have an extra purple fur
No.3672 yes?

Edit: wait, u need it on jpn or Na account?

Damn D:
I'll let u know if I get another one

JP, no worries, give b33r the spare, I'll try farming it through the week. my JP account is very much a "my main acct is out of stam but I want to play still" account.
 

W-00

Member
I finally managed to get an Ilmina partner for my R. Leilan team. It took a couple tries to get used to her lower multiplier, but now my main is in the top 15%, which is higher than it's ever been before.

Meanwhile, my alt is in the top 30% (still higher than it's been before) using, of all things, RLB as a lead. RLB/Ishida/Ishida/A. Oichi/ A. Artemis/RLB does a decent job most of the time. If only there were a 7x6 lead that was compatible with him. The closest I can think of is Romia, but she uses dark orbs for her activation and LB breaks them. What other...

Oh. Oh, that could be interesting! Pair with Romia, but replace Liu Bei with Ruel! Romia wouldn't get Ruel's full bonus, but everyone else would. No skyfall would speed things up on most floors, even if it would mean that I might have to actually combo on the bowl dragon. The team would have 10 skill boosts, which would be enough to have enough up on floor 1, and the rest will be up by the time they're needed... Yes, this could work. Now, the only issue is...

Does anyone have a Romia they could put up? My alt's ID is 300,517,447 if we aren't already friends.
 

Bladelaw

Member
I finally managed to get an Ilmina partner for my R. Leilan team. It took a couple tries to get used to her lower multiplier, but now my main is in the top 15%, which is higher than it's ever been before.

Meanwhile, my alt is in the top 30% (still higher than it's been before) using, of all things, RLB as a lead. RLB/Ishida/Ishida/A. Oichi/ A. Artemis/RLB does a decent job most of the time. If only there were a 7x6 lead that was compatible with him. The closest I can think of is Romia, but she uses dark orbs for her activation and LB breaks them. What other...

Oh. Oh, that could be interesting! Pair with Romia, but replace Liu Bei with Ruel! Romia wouldn't get Ruel's full bonus, but everyone else would. No skyfall would speed things up on most floors, even if it would mean that I might have to actually combo on the bowl dragon. The team would have 10 skill boosts, which would be enough to have enough up on floor 1, and the rest will be up by the time they're needed... Yes, this could work. Now, the only issue is...

Does anyone have a Romia they could put up? My alt's ID is 300,517,447 if we aren't already friends.
Romia is up, id 359,468,351
 

W-00

Member
Romia is up, id 359,468,351

Thanks, Bladelaw. I should have run the team through Endless first to get a feel for the damage (I overestimated what I'd be putting out a couple times), but it seems like the team has some real potential for this ranking.
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
You need to match them, no cascades. If there are fewer than 3 bombs on the board you need to change them via a full board change (since no active currently changes bombs specifically). If you don't they wipe out all orbs in a + formation around the bomb and deal 25% (possibly 20% can't remember) of your max HP in damage PER BOMB.

I think bombs count as jammers, so you can bring jammer resist to beat certain floors if they're giving you too much trouble.
Alright thanks you guys, ill keep it in mind for the next bomb encounter.
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Is there still a 1 million MP cap? I'm close on one of my accounts and just thinking about getting a pair of Athenas even tho I still have shit subs for her.

Finally got a Meri on my main so I have her on both my accounts, who both have pretty amazing blue subs. I imagine I can make a hot ass co-op team with them.... But I got those Male hunters with Mizutsune armor, those are probably better for self co-op, eh?
 

Bladelaw

Member
Is there still a 1 million MP cap? I'm close on one of my accounts and just thinking about getting a pair of Athenas even tho I still have shit subs for her.

Finally got a Meri on my main so I have her on both my accounts, who both have pretty amazing blue subs. I imagine I can make a hot ass co-op team with them.... But I got those Male hunters with Mizutsune armor, those are probably better for self co-op, eh?
MP cap is much higher now so don't worry about it.


Meri vs bhunter is a question of sub support. Meri works with less TE but obviously bhunter is more flexible but requires you to combo. Meri no question for farming purposes.
 
I have close to 950,000 MP points and was going to buy Athena when I hit the required 750k.

I don't really have any of her ideal subs except for one Revo Persephone and a second Persephone that I have yet to evolve. So I keep hemming and hawing.

I want to buy her just to have her, but then I think I may get more use out of Yomi Dragon, or waiting until the next D Athena MP monster comes out and pull the trigger on that one instead.

The other part of me says get D Athena now because Gung Ho seems to have no problem giving out MP like crazy and by the time another power creep MP monster arrives I'll have more then enough.

I guess my biggest issue is I don't have one Haku let alone three.

Any one in the same boat?
 

Bladelaw

Member
I have close to 950,000 MP points and was going to buy Athena when I hit the required 750k.

I don't really have any of her ideal subs except for one Revo Persephone and a second Persephone that I have yet to evolve. So I keep hemming and hawing.

I want to buy her just to have her, but then I think I may get more use out of Yomi Dragon, or waiting until the next D Athena MP monster comes out and pull the trigger on that one instead.

The other part of me says get D Athena now because Gung Ho seems to have no problem giving out MP like crazy and by the time another power creep MP monster arrives I'll have more then enough.

I guess my biggest issue is I don't have one Haku let alone three.

Any one in the same boat?
My wife was in that boat. I'd recommend holding off. You don't need to spend the MP. But if you do, post your box, one of the others might be a better fit.
 
Red Myr and Light Heradra got released in JP for 750k a little while ago, so those are presumably the next DAths. There's quite a few RMyrs on my friends list but she doesn't seem to have caught the world on fire like DAth did.
 

jiggle

Member
because Gung Ho seems to have no problem giving out MP like crazy and by the time another power creep MP monster arrives I'll have more then enough.
Plz note
That gravey train ends this month

Until we eventually(?) get gachadra dungeon events(we are behind by like 4 or 5)
No more free MP
 
Plz note
That gravey train ends this month

Until we eventually(?) get gachadra dungeon events(we are behind by like 4 or 5)
No more free MP

Ha. Thanks for the heads up. I just assumed since they did it now they would do it again in 6 months to a year for all the new players.

And I would post my box but since pad listener crapped the bed I haven't kept an up to date box.

I've got some good stuff, just not enough good stuff.

I run:
Revo Minerva team with Gadius, Tsubaki x 2 and unevolved Ilmina.
Meri with Andromeda, Blue Sonia, Sitri and Awoken Karin.
Krishna with Sanada, Revo Leilan, Revo Minerva and Urd.

I finally fully evolved Myr but my light box is pretty shallow though I did pull light Akechi from the Bride REM.

I also have Revo Loki and other good dark cards just nothing amazing to run with DAthena.

Thanks.
 

Kwhit10

Member
I was at 129k with skuld/julie with more of a speed run.

Just tried Ilmina/anubis with bicolor board changers going for combos and got 145.6k with averaging 13 combos. Now at 3.5%. Much more fun playing this way too.
 

Giard

Member
Not sure what I'm doing wrong with all these Ranking dungeons... I feel like I have good teams, but I keep having awful scores. Either I'm terrible or I'm just not using the right kind of team.

What gives out the most points? Combos?
 
This ranking dungeon lets you shoot for either speed or combos; I've gotten 10% worthy scores with either strategy.

Watching videos of clears is incredibly useful because they help you learn teambuilds / skill order. This particular ranking doesn't have a terribly complicated skill order but has a significant luck component with skyfalls to boost combo score, so maybe you're just not getting there in that regards. Hard to say what you're doing wrong without more indication of the team you're trying to run.

otoh watching replays of crown-worthy clears also makes you realize you'll never git gud enough to puzzle your way to a 1% score :(
 

LiQuid!

I proudly and openly admit to wishing death upon the mothers of people I don't like
Oh snap I didn't realize their was a new Krishounen evo! Let's see here... Looks like it trades the recovery boost and unlimited sub pool for an even orb hungrier but higher damage multiplier... And a marginally more useful active that I'd have to dump Piis on... I dunno guys, I don't think I'm feeling this one. :(

How's the new RagDrag evo? I haven't played much rainbow lead. What are some good subs for him? I haven't watched Dzy's stream in a couple months so I feel soooo out of the loop.
 

Aesnath

Member
New challenge dungeons are...something. I am at the 6* or lower enhanced, and it looks really beefy. It seems like you might need to use the gimmick to have the bulk for the stage--especially since DQ hera is floating around. I guess something Anubis/Diabolos with 6* subs would be the best option, but I'm not sure who fits the bill.

On the other hand, Meri could get there, but not sure of the subs again. I guess that mammoth guy from MH? Bah, not sure.

This ranking dungeon lets you shoot for either speed or combos; I've gotten 10% worthy scores with either strategy.

Watching videos of clears is incredibly useful because they help you learn teambuilds / skill order. This particular ranking doesn't have a terribly complicated skill order but has a significant luck component with skyfalls to boost combo score, so maybe you're just not getting there in that regards. Hard to say what you're doing wrong without more indication of the team you're trying to run.

otoh watching replays of crown-worthy clears also makes you realize you'll never git gud enough to puzzle your way to a 1% score :(

Well, in the end I think i managed to stick at around 22%, which means I will eventually have the stupid quests unlocked.

Oh snap I didn't realize their was a new Krishounen evo! Let's see here... Looks like it trades the recovery boost and unlimited sub pool for an even orb hungrier but higher damage multiplier... And a marginally more useful active that I'd have to dump Piis on... I dunno guys, I don't think I'm feeling this one. :(

How's the new RagDrag evo? I haven't played much rainbow lead. What are some good subs for him? I haven't watched Dzy's stream in a couple months so I feel soooo out of the loop.

As for Krishna's awoken--it is pretty bad as a lead. Very orb hungry and less durable leaderskill. On the other hand, solid sub.

Ragdra seems to be very solid, if you have the machines to support it and are willing to go all in on killers. The mats for the evo are terrible.
 

Bladelaw

Member
Oh snap I didn't realize their was a new Krishounen evo! Let's see here... Looks like it trades the recovery boost and unlimited sub pool for an even orb hungrier but higher damage multiplier... And a marginally more useful active that I'd have to dump Piis on... I dunno guys, I don't think I'm feeling this one. :(

How's the new RagDrag evo? I haven't played much rainbow lead. What are some good subs for him? I haven't watched Dzy's stream in a couple months so I feel soooo out of the loop.

Krishna's a bad lead but a good sub as mentioned.

Rag Drag is a powerful lead if you have the sub support. Here's my team, it's pretty consistent in A3 unless Noah Dragon shows up and I skyfall into fuck you mode.

My team:
Rag Drag (Uruka)
Rag Drag (Fujin)
Allura (voltron collab)-->Valphalk
Baldin (Lead form, sub form's extra killers got me in trouble)-->Carat or sheen can't remember
G/B Balboa (R Susano)
Rag Drag (Jormungandr)

Dupe rags can be replaced by Mathena
Allura is tough to replace on the cheap but Algedi makes a decent inherit base with god killer. Mito even as a non-machine works to help clear devil floors and keeps a color bind immune
Baldin could be verdandi (G/R form) with a spike inherit
Balboa is also tough to replace, Julie works, Another Justice is viable but from there you either need good collab luck, whale powers, or accept a poverty blue sub like Alrescha or Spica.

Dzy replaces allura with wedding Scheat for the Follow Up Attack awakening. I don't find it as helpful on my team.

Before I had the second Rag I used Mathena and teams worked fine, the extra board change is helpful though.
 

Aesnath

Member
Best 6* leads I have are Acala and Solois (whatever the brave 2 red's name is). I'm a bit worried about the first floor and the leader swap, but I could run something like Onion knight/Momiji/Momiji/Momiji, which might not work, but would be kinda fun to try. I just wonder if that'll really get me there with the crazy HP that everything has.
 

Bladelaw

Member
New challenge set seems kinder than White Snake but still pretty nasty at the end.

Here's what I'm thinking

Fl1 is a gimme
Fl2 isn't much worse. Any lead with a built in shield trivializes it.
Fl3 is a straight damage check. Anubis worked in one turn but any hard hitting team that can have an active online early can do it.
Fl4 isn't too bad, a combo focused team is recommended since there's a combo shield on almost every floor.

Fl5 is fun from a team building standpoint. I ran out of stam before I could try it but I have a Meri (6* form) team I think will do fine. (Meri, Kundali, Sitri, Sharon, Amatsu, Meri). The combo shields could be a problem but I won't know till I'm in the thick of it. Meri's +2 should be enough though. Amatsu is the only one not getting the 3x bonus so it should be ok. I think an Acala team could work great too...

FL6+ is where I see trouble starting. Modified Myr dungeon, killers should help, but you also need enough HP at the end to stall through Myr's BS.

FL7 either do the satan cheese (stall out damage void and grav to death) or try to do it legit. He hits as hard as 3p UDR but has less HP. I built an Anubis team specifically to counter him so I'm going to try that route. The awakening bind attack is my biggest concern.

FL8: Bring a shitload of damage. Sweep every floor, delay Deightos and either break def or just hit it really hard. I'm thinking of bringing Kushi with dragon killer Tsubakis.

FL9: Bring the hardest hitting team you have. The wisedragons have a stupid amount of HP but no resolve. the double diao Anubis team will have the least trouble imo. I'm planning on bringing Anubis. Last stage remember you can hold a rotating orb to change it to the color of you choice so you can build a board to suit your team.

FL10: Again hard hitting combo stuff looks like the right call. The boss is vulnerable to gravity at the start (you'd need a fujin like once his absorb is up). If you can somehow stall up enough gravity to break Azazel's resolve turn 1 it's just a matter of hitting hard enough to kill. If you can get past floor 1 with a Minerva cheese team then it might be possible to cheese out the rest of the dungeon. I don't know if the keeper on the first level awaken bind then wrecks you or if you have a turn to clear the awaken bind. There's no skill bind you can bring the SB badge or the TE badge. Either way it looks like level 1 was designed to counter cheese.
 

Aesnath

Member
New challenge set seems kinder than White Snake but still pretty nasty at the end.

Here's what I'm thinking

Fl1 is a gimme
Fl2 isn't much worse. Any lead with a built in shield trivializes it.
Fl3 is a straight damage check. Anubis worked in one turn but any hard hitting team that can have an active online early can do it.
Fl4 isn't too bad, a combo focused team is recommended since there's a combo shield on almost every floor.

Fl5 is fun from a team building standpoint. I ran out of stam before I could try it but I have a Meri (6* form) team I think will do fine. (Meri, Kundali, Sitri, Sharon, Amatsu, Meri). The combo shields could be a problem but I won't know till I'm in the thick of it. Meri's +2 should be enough though. Amatsu is the only one not getting the 3x bonus so it should be ok. I think an Acala team could work great too...

FL6+ is where I see trouble starting. Modified Myr dungeon, killers should help, but you also need enough HP at the end to stall through Myr's BS.

FL7 either do the satan cheese (stall out damage void and grav to death) or try to do it legit. He hits as hard as 3p UDR but has less HP. I built an Anubis team specifically to counter him so I'm going to try that route. The awakening bind attack is my biggest concern.

FL8: Bring a shitload of damage. Sweep every floor, delay Deightos and either break def or just hit it really hard. I'm thinking of bringing Kushi with dragon killer Tsubakis.

FL9: Bring the hardest hitting team you have. The wisedragons have a stupid amount of HP but no resolve. the double diao Anubis team will have the least trouble imo. I'm planning on bringing Anubis. Last stage remember you can hold a rotating orb to change it to the color of you choice so you can build a board to suit your team.

FL10: Again hard hitting combo stuff looks like the right call. The boss is vulnerable to gravity at the start (you'd need a fujin like once his absorb is up). If you can somehow stall up enough gravity to break Azazel's resolve turn 1 it's just a matter of hitting hard enough to kill. If you can get past floor 1 with a Minerva cheese team then it might be possible to cheese out the rest of the dungeon. I don't know if the keeper on the first level awaken bind then wrecks you or if you have a turn to clear the awaken bind. There's no skill bind you can bring the SB badge or the TE badge. Either way it looks like level 1 was designed to counter cheese.

So...I'm thinking about strategies for those of us who sort of suck with combos.

I was thinking for floor seven you could probably try dual hades, as with 30k HP you can tank every hit even after the damage buff; but it will be slow going with that 36x multiplier and 300million HP to chew through. Probably need to bring a lot of killers if possible to keep it from sucking too hard. Or, could just wait out the shield and go for gravity kill, as you mentioned.

On the other hand, I could try out dark metatron with a bunch of dragonkiller subs. Can just stall until my actives are up, then try my best to punch through in a couple of turns after things get real.

Floor 8, at first blush, look minerva cheesable. probably doing that, unless I missed something important.

Floor 9 seems tricky. I'm not sure what the upper end on damage is with anubis/diabolos, but that might be the most viable, even for me. With a lot of patience, you could minerva/gravity cheese it, but you'll need a full gravity kill up immediately for the last floor, which typically involves that van crow guy, which I never rolled.

Floor 10 looks un-cheesable. The awakening bind plus several million damage seems pretty impossible from that perspective. It also has too much HP to be easily killed in the four turns you have (with very few actives). If you could get through the floor, the rest of the dungeon would be doable though.

I'm really not sure what I'll do--seems a bit above my station.

EDIT: It is also no dupes for the last floor--so, good luck with that.
 

Bladelaw

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Well my 6* Meri strat worked without a hitch. Just be sure you clear 58k HP for DQ Hera and you can flood the board for kills.

The reason I'm calling this set kinder than snake is twofold, 1) you can stone the last floor so you always have the option to rage your way out. 2) team building constraints are a bit looser since only the last floor keeps you from using your "best" team is it include dupes. You still need to combo like a madman through most of the later stages.

EDIT: all floors but the final one cleared. for C9 I used Anubis, Diao, Diao, DK Tsubaki, Aten, Anubis. I failed the first time because I paired with Diablos. Sandalphon only picks 30 orbs to rotate, on a 7x6 board that's REALLY bad. I used the grab-and-hold cheese on the last board and Aten damage capped after skyfall. I'm up 7 stones (stoned once because I was dumb vs DQ hera and paired with an evo'd meri instead of a 6* meri, second stone was for stam).
 
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