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Puzzle & Dragons |OT4| Co-op Edition: Stoning With Friends

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Aesnath

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Lots of godfest rolls on day two; I don't remember all of them because A: most were dupes and B: a lot were dupes of 4*. Either way it didn't work out too badly, but still no yog.

Keepers

Gronia x2 (this brings me up to four total, not sure what I will do with all of them)

Blonia (pretty happy about this, always wanted one for meri)

Dark Kali (neat, but not sure what to do with her)

Durga (feels like there will be times when having her as a base will be better than Asmodeus for Dath, so seems pretty cool)

Krishna (dupe; I guess I can make awoken now and not feel bad)

Ra (number three, but still a pretty solid thing to get dupes of)

Claimoh solais (I know some people like her, but not sure exactly why)

So...8 keepers out of 19 rolls--not such great odds. Would have liked a Ganesha or sarasvati.

Related question: Is Ra dragon worth it now? At this point, I could field a team that covers all the bases (GKali/DKali/Kanna/Isis) and I have an Aten and Sherias roots for board change inherits. I'm a bit tempted just to have something to do, but I'm not sure if it is worth the trouble.
 
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Kwhit10

Member
If I can't beat something I usually go back and use ra dragon. Having a fully unbindable team is so underrated. The team has a a lot of utility too.
 
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Bladelaw

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bjork said:
Heroines are back, but I'm only missing Uruka, Romia, and Navi from that batch. Any of them worth going in for?
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Uruka and Romia are both great cards of questionable worth. Romia's almost the best Time Extend stick in the game (RYomi is the best). Uruka combines Fujin with Dkali on a card with ~1000 weighted stats. Navi is an ok Substitute for Raguel but not much else at the moment. I hear her buffs give her new homes but I haven't looks too closely. Standard advise is to not chase 6*+ cards in a collab, and doubly so for 10 stone REMs but if you're missing the 5*'s (Sheena, Momiji, and Mel specifically) then it's hard to lose in this REM.

Aesnath said:
Lots of godfest rolls on day two; I don't remember all of them because A: most were dupes and B: a lot were dupes of 4*. Either way it didn't work out too badly, but still no yog.

Keepers

Gronia x2 (this brings me up to four total, not sure what I will do with all of them)

Blonia (pretty happy about this, always wanted one for meri)

Dark Kali (neat, but not sure what to do with her)

Durga (feels like there will be times when having her as a base will be better than Asmodeus for Dath, so seems pretty cool)

Krishna (dupe; I guess I can make awoken now and not feel bad)

Ra (number three, but still a pretty solid thing to get dupes of)

Claimoh solais (I know some people like her, but not sure exactly why)

So...8 keepers out of 19 rolls--not such great odds. Would have liked a Ganesha or sarasvati.

Related question: Is Ra dragon worth it now? At this point, I could field a team that covers all the bases (GKali/DKali/Kanna/Isis) and I have an Aten and Sherias roots for board change inherits. I'm a bit tempted just to have something to do, but I'm not sure if it is worth the trouble.
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Claimoh Solais is the highest ATK card in the game in coop making her the best base for a grimmjow or other ATK based button active. She also has a solid active for light teams as an inherit base or on Minerva/ilm while being unbindable. She's arguably the best of the Brave 2 series (though I wouldn't call any of them bad)

Ra Dragon is a reliable rainbow team. unless you need tons of damage (various c10's, Cosmic Trinity Annihilation, the occasional c11) Ra Dragon is still a really strong lead. I would recommend Rag Drag if you have the machine cards to back it up and the patience to farm the evo mats. Still a rainbow lead but better damage most of the time thanks to killers and doesn't require hearts for activation meaning it's easier to heal when you're stalling. Rag Drag also makes a better sub than Ra Dragon when its use as a lead is powercreeped out.

Or you could save MP in the hopes we get Red Myr.
 
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Aesnath

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Bladelaw said:
Uruka and Romia are both great cards of questionable worth. Romia's almost the best Time Extend stick in the game (RYomi is the best). Uruka combines Fujin with Dkali on a card with ~1000 weighted stats. Navi is an ok Substitute for Raguel but not much else at the moment. I hear her buffs give her new homes but I haven't looks too closely. Standard advise is to not chase 6*+ cards in a collab, and doubly so for 10 stone REMs but if you're missing the 5*'s (Sheena, Momiji, and Mel specifically) then it's hard to lose in this REM.


Claimoh Solais is the highest ATK card in the game in coop making her the best base for a grimmjow or other ATK based button active. She also has a solid active for light teams as an inherit base or on Minerva/ilm while being unbindable. She's arguably the best of the Brave 2 series (though I wouldn't call any of them bad)

Ra Dragon is a reliable rainbow team. unless you need tons of damage (various c10's, Cosmic Trinity Annihilation, the occasional c11) Ra Dragon is still a really strong lead. I would recommend Rag Drag if you have the machine cards to back it up and the patience to farm the evo mats. Still a rainbow lead but better damage most of the time thanks to killers and doesn't require hearts for activation meaning it's easier to heal when you're stalling. Rag Drag also makes a better sub than Ra Dragon when its use as a lead is powercreeped out.

Or you could save MP in the hopes we get Red Myr.
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I imagine we'll get red myr, but I doubt I'll purchase it, as combo+cross seems like a challenging playstyle. I'm sort of holding out hope that the gentleman get some kind of cool evo, as LHeradra seems good, but probably doesn't do much for me given the cost.

I don't have the relevant cards for ragdragon, nor do I have the desire to buy several of him (people do run multiples of him on his team right?). Ra dragon is less likely to really open anything up for me (as I've heard it is roughly the same power level as Dath), but I have quite a bit of MP at this point, and I don't know what to do with it. I've also thought about buying Odin dragon, just because I sometimes find myself wanting a full bind clear.

I think it is more of a "hey, I drew all of this stuff, I wonder if I should make a team" rather than "what is the best MP monster." On the other hand, I'm unlikely to buy it if it really doesn't add much to my team roster.

Kwhit10 said:
If I can't beat something I usually go back and use ra dragon. Having a fully unbindable team is so underrated. The team has a a lot of utility too.
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Fair point; entirely unbindable team is pretty unique.

Related question: If I were to buy a ra dragon, since Gkali covers green, is there something better to cover blue than Isis?
 
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Bladelaw

Member
Aesnath said:
I imagine we'll get red myr, but I doubt I'll purchase it, as combo+cross seems like a challenging playstyle. I'm sort of holding out hope that the gentleman get some kind of cool evo, as LHeradra seems good, but probably doesn't do much for me given the cost.

I don't have the relevant cards for ragdragon, nor do I have the desire to buy several of him (people do run multiples of him on his team right?). Ra dragon is less likely to really open anything up for me (as I've heard it is roughly the same power level as Dath), but I have quite a bit of MP at this point, and I don't know what to do with it. I've also thought about buying Odin dragon, just because I sometimes find myself wanting a full bind clear.

I think it is more of a "hey, I drew all of this stuff, I wonder if I should make a team" rather than "what is the best MP monster." On the other hand, I'm unlikely to buy it if it really doesn't add much to my team roster.



Fair point; entirely unbindable team is pretty unique.

Related question: If I were to buy a ra dragon, since Gkali covers green, is there something better to cover blue than Isis?
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Rag drag can be swapped for Mathena with god killers where you would use a dupe bbut if you don't have machine support for the other colors it's tough to recommend as a lead especially given how tedious it is to evo. For Ra Dragon blue coverage that isn't isis: Blodin (B/D evo) for SB and inherit base, New skuld for follow up attack, Amatsu if you have it for the same reason, Bmeta or BMyr to maintain unbindability. Revo Isis obviously works well too.

ED: Revo Kush also for the shield and +combo
 
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Aesnath

Member
Bladelaw said:
Rag drag can be swapped for Mathena with god killers where you would use a dupe bbut if you don't have machine support for the other colors it's tough to recommend as a lead especially given how tedious it is to evo. For Ra Dragon blue coverage that isn't isis: Blodin (B/D evo) for SB and inherit base, New skuld for follow up attack, Amatsu if you have it for the same reason, Bmeta or BMyr to maintain unbindability. Revo Isis obviously works well too.
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Kinda disappointing. I was sort of hoping that there was something worthwhile L/B that could cover--feels like you dilute a lot of damage with 1/2 the team being off color main.

As for ragdragon, machines just seem kind of challenging to obtain. I probably could cover the colors, but it would be a bit dicey, things like scheat, kuvia, or barbara; long-ish cooldowns, odd awakenings. Also, ragdragon does seem....challenging to evo.
 
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Bladelaw

Member
Aesnath said:
Kinda disappointing. I was sort of hoping that there was something worthwhile L/B that could cover--feels like you dilute a lot of damage with 1/2 the team being off color main.

As for ragdragon, machines just seem kind of challenging to obtain. I probably could cover the colors, but it would be a bit dicey, things like scheat, kuvia, or barbara; long-ish cooldowns, odd awakenings. Also, ragdragon does seem....challenging to evo.
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With rainbow teams I try not to worry too much about main color coverage. It can screw you (especially vs Noah dragon...) but it opens up team building a bit. If you don't mind having a bindable sub and pulled Raijin I think she's a great fit for the team. It's a shame that Tachibana isn't a god because holy shit she'd outdamage Kanna.
 
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Aesnath

Member
Bladelaw said:
With rainbow teams I try not to worry too much about main color coverage. It can screw you (especially vs Noah dragon...) but it opens up team building a bit. If you don't mind having a bindable sub and pulled Raijin I think she's a great fit for the team. It's a shame that Tachibana isn't a god because holy shit she'd outdamage Kanna.
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Yeah, but the unbindable seems like a significant selling point. I also saw something on a JP site using Athena Another for Guard break and just not relying on her to cover any particular color so that being bindable doesn't matter so much.

I don't know, I'm still undecided, but dark athena has sort of sucked a bit of the fun out of team-building. She's too good and too easy, meaning everything else falls by the wayside somewhat. I probably should focus on trying to get better at anubis, but I find combo-centric playstyle a bit frustrating. I could also try to get a dark metatron team up and running for 3p, but I'm a bit scared of getting in there and embarrassing myself.

Cosmo Clock 21 said:
Easy 4% on ranking dungeon with Ilm casino team.
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Was kind of excited to get 100k with Meri, but was still under 50%. I don't care about crowns, I just want access to those stupid badges. Eh, I can certainly shave some time and make more combos, but I doubt anything close to 10% is realistic. I really wish they hadn't locked those things behind this stuff.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
10% should be attainable with Meridionalis. What kind of skill order are you using? If you can clear out the dark orbs on F1 with a full board change you can breeze through the rest of the floors.
 
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Bladelaw

Member
7% with a ghetto casino team. Definitely room for improvement. I don't know if I'll shoot for a crown but I'm definitely trying to stay top 10%. I'd kinda really like a crown though.

It's ghetto because it's Anubis/diablos so I actually need to combo 2 floors the rest of the team is sheena and Barbara using the sbr badge so I don't get boned on Hera-Is
 
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Aesnath

Member
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
10% should be attainable with Meridionalis. What kind of skill order are you using? If you can clear out the dark orbs on F1 with a full board change you can breeze through the rest of the floors.
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Went for skill boost awakenings so Awoken Gabe, Y'sholta, Nene, and Andromeda. I could use NeNe floor one; I have been kind of trying to save her for the end in order to make sure I max out damage with Nene->Meri. Still, any other heartmaker plus meri will probably get there some of the time.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
Bladelaw said:
7% with a ghetto casino team. Definitely room for improvement. I don't know if I'll shoot for a crown but I'm definitely trying to stay top 10%. I'd kinda really like a crown though.

It's ghetto because it's Anubis/diablos so I actually need to combo 2 floors the rest of the team is sheena and Barbara using the sbr badge so I don't get boned on Hera-Is
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You can get a poverty crown when the 5th anniversary hits in a few months I wouldn't worry
 
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Aesnath

Member
Tried with Ilm and Ilmina and had a better result of 117k. Probably can improve depending on combos and skyfall. Basically, I'm not sure what Ilm casino is, exactly, so I just used ilm and plopped down a bunch of board changers. Worked OK, no muss, no fuss.
 
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Bladelaw

Member
Aesnath said:
Tried with Ilm and Ilmina and had a better result of 117k. Probably can improve depending on combos and skyfall. Basically, I'm not sure what Ilm casino is, exactly, so I just used ilm and plopped down a bunch of board changers. Worked OK, no muss, no fuss.
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Ilm Casino is a team composed of bicolor board changers lead by ilm and ilmina (ideally all ilm boards). the idea is you change the board, swipe, and pray for combos (this is the casino part). Repeat until crown or you run out of stones. It's not the most reliable method unless you can put in enough runs to get lucky boards through the whole dungeon.

There's variants with Anubis or Bastet leads as well. Bastet with a team of Avalon drakes, Anubis with a bunch of Barbaras/Ronias/Blonia/Gronia/Sheena both paired with a 7x6 lead like diablos or ilmina.

Since there's no inheriting you need to manage skill boosts with board changes to make sure you're online turn 1.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
Aesnath said:
Tried with Ilm and Ilmina and had a better result of 117k. Probably can improve depending on combos and skyfall. Basically, I'm not sure what Ilm casino is, exactly, so I just used ilm and plopped down a bunch of board changers. Worked OK, no muss, no fuss.
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That's basically it, press a button and pull on the board and hope for good luck at the skyfall slot machine

With a 7x6 board with two colors you're practically guaranteed activation so you don't have to actually worry about solving the board, it's just up to luck after that that you get a high combo count from skyfall

The next level strategy is taking subs off your team to shave off the fractions of a second they take to deal damage but that's not really necessary unless you're chasing a top 10 score
 
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Aesnath

Member
Bladelaw said:
Ilm Casino is a team composed of bicolor board changers lead by ilm and ilmina (ideally all ilm boards). the idea is you change the board, swipe, and pray for combos (this is the casino part). Repeat until crown or you run out of stones. It's not the most reliable method unless you can put in enough runs to get lucky boards through the whole dungeon.

There's variants with Anubis or Bastet leads as well. Bastet with a team of Avalon drakes, Anubis with a bunch of Barbaras/Ronias/Blonia/Gronia/Sheena both paired with a 7x6 lead like diablos or ilmina.

Since there's no inheriting you need to manage skill boosts with board changes to make sure you're online turn 1.
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Cosmo Clock 21 said:
That's basically it, press a button and pull on the board and hope for good luck at the skyfall slot machine

With a 7x6 board with two colors you're practically guaranteed activation so you don't have to actually worry about solving the board, it's just up to luck after that that you get a high combo count from skyfall

The next level strategy is taking subs off your team to shave off the fractions of a second they take to deal damage but that's not really necessary unless you're chasing a top 10 score
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Ah, well, I only had Ilm and friend Ilmina as available bicolor boardchangers. Everything else was tricolor at best--again, it still seems workable for my goals. I went with Kirko Another (has a saria board, no haste, but two skill boosts), revo leilan, Gadius (he may get changed for a saria), and trance terra (the two columns were easy enough, then focused on making some combos in the middle).
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
Aesnath said:
Ah, well, I only had Ilm and friend Ilmina as available bicolor boardchangers. Everything else was tricolor at best--again, it still seems workable for my goals. I went with Kirko Another (has a saria board, no haste, but two skill boosts), revo leilan, Gadius (he may get changed for a saria), and trance terra (the two columns were easy enough, then focused on making some combos in the middle).
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Here's the team I used for a 3.4% ranking - Ilm/Ilmina/Leilan should be good enough to get 10%. You don't need to go full casino to get a score that high, most trash floors like F1 can be completed using normal matching. You'll probably use the kettle dragon floor to max out your damage score so take a little more care there.
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Other subs to consider are onion knight and ult ult or NY Yamato takeru
 
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jiggle

Member
Broke through 10% with anubis diablos
Looks like forgoing using skill every turn actually helped with the score

Doubt the % will hold though
 
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b33r

Member
I never pulled an Ilm, Anubis, or Diablos/Ilmina. So I never get to try these cool 7x6 lead pairings. I do like the light row Aizen I recently pulled, not gonna try and spell that name. But I think Aizen is still superior.

Yog someday please!

I'm also regretting making the dark female hunter as people suck at leaving me an enhanced orb.

Might abandon my JP account. I only play new stuff and roll collabs with it. If it's not against the rules I would give it to one of you, if that is possible.
 
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W-00

Member
I have an Anubis, but I don't think Anubis casino will work for me. My bicolor options are limited to three Sheena and a Ronia, and those just don't bring enough SB. So far, the best Meri's gotten me is 35%.
 
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Aesnath

Member
divusrex said:
Monster Hunter Collab is coming back to JP on 8/24

Now I'm regretting the 2nd male hunter purchase on my JP account...then again, I should have known better. At least I can farm skill-ups for the cards I have right now.
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Doesn't most everything come back at least once? Either way, my wife will be happy to finally evolve a hunter. Surprised they didn't add anything in terms of evos or new critters.

Cosmo Clock 21 said:
Here's the team I used for a 3.4% ranking - Ilm/Ilmina/Leilan should be good enough to get 10%. You don't need to go full casino to get a score that high, most trash floors like F1 can be completed using normal matching. You'll probably use the kettle dragon floor to max out your damage score so take a little more care there.


Other subs to consider are onion knight and ult ult or NY Yamato takeru
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Hmm. I could get pretty close to making that. I also have takeru and onion knight so I might not have to go with the whale.

I got up to 121 though!

Edit: also, we aren't friends yet. Got a slot for me?
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
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The whale is there because I forgot it was a no assists dungeon lol, tomato taker is better cause he got the SBR. If you can get all your skills up by floor 2 you should be golden.
 
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Cosmo Clock 21

Banned
I'm at 102/105, but I deleted some more friend slots just in case

Edit: it was just brought to my attention that JP recently stealth updated quests to reward the SBR badge at 25% ranking instead of 10%. Should be a lot more attainable for players?
 
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Aesnath

Member
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
I'm at 102/105, but I deleted some more friend slots just in case

Edit: it was just brought to my attention that JP recently stealth updated quests to reward the SBR badge at 25% ranking instead of 10%. Should be a lot more attainable for players?
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It gave me an error again, BUT, I paid attention and it said that you were at the maximum number of invites, whatever that means. I didn't know we had a maximum number of invites.

Also, 25%, that would be great! I'm actually at 24% now, but obviously it will drop considerably. I wonder what score will be needed for top 25%.
 
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divusrex

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Aesnath said:
Doesn't most everything come back at least once? Either way, my wife will be happy to finally evolve a hunter. Surprised they didn't add anything in terms of evos or new critters.
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That is true for most of the collabs in JP. I guess I wasn't expecting it to come back this soon though. There may be more buffs/evos incoming based off Twitter, but I don't see what they could really do. Either way, I can't complain about the free roll and free hunters.
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Man i was once quite into PaD but fell out of love like a year ago...even uninstalled the game a couple of months ago.

Recently i reinstalled it because i saw that Verdandi got a new evo. Sadly no one in my friendlist runs her....so thats that.

Well i dont have much to do but i saw that Bladelaw runs Mel...so ill just max mine and try to clear some stages every day lol. She seems to be a solid leader and i have a bunch of leveled water units. Right now just running Mel + 4 Sumire until i have more time to look up even better subs.
 
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Bladelaw

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cw_sasuke said:
Man i was once quite into PaD but fell out of love like a year ago...even uninstalled the game a couple of months ago.

Recently i reinstalled it because i saw that Verdandi got a new evo. Sadly no one in my friendlist runs her....so thats that.

Well i dont have much to do but i saw that Bladelaw runs Mel...so ill just max mine and try to clear some stages every day lol. She seems to be a solid leader and i have a bunch of leveled water units. Right now just running Mel + 4 Sumire until i have more time to look up even better subs.
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Glad someone's using Mel. I hypered her so she'd be more stats on whoever inherited by her and I like to keep oddball leads up. Mel is one of the few leads who can use Lakshmi straight up. I'd also recommend putting WeeJas on Mel for the extra heart. Basically just play her like a combo lead, load up on 7c subs and have at it.

In statistical anomaly news i went 60 runs of evo rush without a single dub-emelit dropping. I'm not sure what the odds of that are but they can't be good.
 
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Aesnath

Member
So, with the ilm/ilmina team I'm sitting at 22% and change with 126060. I'm guessing I need to hit something like 130k to stay in the top 25%. I think I'm getting better at solving bi-color boards for tpa.

This is the first ranking dungeon that I've enjoyed. On the other hand, I've done nothing else yet this week. Lot of challenge dungeons to go.
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Bladelaw said:
Glad someone's using Mel. I hypered her so she'd be more stats on whoever inherited by her and I like to keep oddball leads up. Mel is one of the few leads who can use Lakshmi straight up. I'd also recommend putting WeeJas on Mel for the extra heart. Basically just play her like a combo lead, load up on 7c subs and have at it.

In statistical anomaly news i went 60 runs of evo rush without a single dub-emelit dropping. I'm not sure what the odds of that are but they can't be good.
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Hey thanks - sounds good...i will play with her for a while until i find a more interesting leader.

So i saw that skill inheritance now works just with money...but for some reason i cant put Wee Jas on Mel...any reason why ? He is evolved and max level but i cant select him. Dont know why.
 
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Bladelaw

Member
cw_sasuke said:
Hey thanks - sounds good...i will play with her for a while until i find a more interesting leader.

So i saw that skill inheritance now works just with money...but for some reason i cant put Wee Jas on Mel...any reason why ? He is evolved and max level but i cant select him. Dont know why.
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In order to inherit a card must have all awakenings (max level isn't needed anymore). It's possible your Wee Jas is missing a tama or two?
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Bladelaw said:
In order to inherit a card must have all awakenings (max level isn't needed anymore). It's possible your Wee Jas is missing a tama or two?
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Thanks,
i was just stupid....i had forgotten that i used him as a sub in my Verdandi team for a second... -.-
 
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