Melchiah
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Huh? What was wrong with what I posted?
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Killzone: Shadow Fall Multiplayer Runs at 960x1080 vertically interlaced
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Huh? What was wrong with what I posted?
Are we really back on resolution doesn't matter?
Garrett 2U
Member
Oh it does actually seem to be true. 1408x792 vs apparently 960x1080
This proves misterx and insider were right all along!
Despite the number of people saying they knew it doesn't seem to have ever become an issue in the MP thread.
Fornaximus
Member
This is definitely worse than the whole KZ2 E3 thing that got blown WAAAAAAY out of proportion. If I remember correctly, that was just some PR guy who dun goofed, and the whole thing was clarified as not being in-game footage shortly after. This is a lie directly from GG and from Sony. FOR SHAME.
RedAssedApe
Banned
I'm dumb. Would KZ at 720p have looked better or worse than this?
Worse but it might actually be 60fps consistently then.
Better in some ways, worse in others. You're trading upscaling artifacts and combing.
Overall, 720p would probably look worse to most people.
Lion Heart
Banned
They should have stuck with 30fps then
Yeah probably, or lower the graphical detail substantially to hit 60 fps.
Are we really gonna pretend TF holds a candle to KZ in terms of graphics?
GHG
Member
Garrett 2U
Member
Are we really gonna pretend TF holds a candle to KZ in terms of graphics?
Don't think I implied that.
RedAssedApe
Banned
Are we really gonna pretend TF holds a candle to KZ in terms of graphics?
resolution and pixel counting matters now
You mixed something that you were being truthful about with a random line that you are obviously joking about. It makes it hard to understand what point you're trying to make.
Resolution is important to people, but it's not the ONLY important factor. Although I'm obviously disappointed in KZ's resolution, it's still vastly more graphically impressive game than Titanfall. So I don't know why you brought Titanfall into the discussion? Perhaps an anecdote you found to be funny, but it doesn't hold weight (since people primarily made fun of Titanfall's resolution because of how unimpressive the graphics were).
pretty done
Member
If we didn't expect 1080p then why the fuck did we even upgrade from PS360?
Resolutions aren't going to get higher for showpiece games as the generation goes on, they will do as they did in the previous generation where developers have to make even more concessions for the extra shiny. Though the spin in this thread is pretty intense, at the end of the day you shouldn't expect any sort of vast majority of showpiece titles to run at your tv's native resolution as the generation goes on. Otherwise there will be more disappointments similar to the one you experienced in this thread IMO.
i bought it because I was expecting to be blown away by the graphics
dat next gen feel
it's not.
maneil99
Member
Ask anyone with an X1. Next gen pushes graphics and resolution.
Definitely not. 720p only has 12% less pixels. That's not going to magically make the game go from a totally unstable framerate to a constant 60 fps.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I wonder if they went 900p like BF how it would have look since that way seem much easier .
The tech interesting but maybe normal upscalling would have been best .
I won't say that , res will stay the same for most showpiece games if anything the frame rate is what going to get hurt because of it .
Chobel
Member
Games and experiences...
I don't think that's true. There were PLENTY, PLENTY of 720p native PS3 games even near the end of it's lifecycle. Just as there were sub-native PS3 games near the beginning.
Garrett 2U
Member
Didn't expect to get jumped on by so many people for answering a little question. Sheesh.
quite the opposite, if anything.
killzone is still the best looking next gen title out there, IMO. multiplayer included, despite whatever resolution differences.
wat, I don't think I implied that at all either.resolution and pixel counting matters now
quite the opposite, if anything.
killzone is still the best looking next gen title out there, IMO. multiplayer included, despite whatever resolution differences.
Not trying to make any point. Was simply answering a question made in my direction.
Same here, went straight to MP, thought it was ok graphically, but when I tried the SP I thought it was weird it was so much better
This is actually the only game from Sony first party that's been below the typical target res in a long, long time. I don't think any first party games were below 720p last gen.
Sorry for the confusion, I was kind of counting your earlier post in my remark as well.
ieatzombies
Member
You're killin me smalls.
Better graphics, bigger worlds, and all of the other things that come with it. 1080p is great but I wouldn't be surprised if later down the line we start seeing more games at 900p.
Melchiah
Member
I wonder where this idea comes from, the 3rd parties perhaps? To my knowledge all the late 1st/2nd party games on the PS3 ran at native 720p, with the exception of Resistance 3.
I guess. But Respawn are going around the final build resolution.. they already debunked 1080p..and they said alpha was 720p... While the beta was 792p.. so maybe the final build would be an odd. 792-900p?
LookAtMeGo
Member
compared to what?
I hope we get 1080p for 30fps games and 900p for 60fps games. It seems realistic enough to expect.
There were sub 720 at the beginning of the generation and there were plenty toward the end as well on both HD consoles. Strange resolutions and all.
I don't think you should expect all first party games to be full 1080p on the ps4 throughout the generation in my opinion nor third party obviously (edit: and it goes for all consoles).. But that's just me
Neutralfanboy
Banned
But I thought COD was ported in 5 minutes and ran at 90 fps.
You're killin me smalls.
I feel outraged at being lied! Somebody has to pay!
Well, I paid $60
There are definitely ghosting artifacts.
Hmmm, also check out the textures in the distance on the floor on the moving picture compared to the stationary one. It might be motion blur, but they definitely more blurred.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I thought I'd repost my explanation of the resolution since it has gotten kinda buried.
Some people seem to be a little confused at the resolution thinking that it upscales from 960x1080 to 1920x1080 like you would upscale a sub 1080p game to 1080p, it doesn't. I made some images to help.
Okay, so let's say the red lines are what is being updated while the black lines are empty space.
Now this is what it looks like on frame 1
On frame 2 this is what it looks like
And when frame 2 comes it it blurs the information from frame 1 to fill in the black spaces. This is why it looks fine when standing still but looks blurry and odd in motion. If we could take a single frame of KZSF's multiplayer with this effect turned off it would look something like this.
Zoom in to see the full effect.
The grey lines are dead space where nothing is being rendered on this frame.
So techinically the game is rendering at 1920x1080, just not on each frame.
pretty done
Member
There are four words you're going to hear a lot of when to PS4 and together, they change the game.
better graphics
bigger worlds
Give me 960x1080 or give me death.
AgentOtaku
Member
Would have preferred a locked framerate instead. SP looks stellar now because of the cap...
Can we add this to the OP?