Telus and Bell have been issuing idle threats about directly competing with Rogers for the GSM market for years, they never follow through on them, and now it seems like it's all "too little, too late". Telus and Bell's only hope to compete with a new name that's willing to undercut all of them is through more features, like bulking up their own network with things like what you find on Japan's CDMA-based networks.SickBoy said:
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Battlezone
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King_Slender said:
Okay, sure, but what about unlocking? I was under the impression that unlocking and jailbreaking were one and the same. Is this not the case? Can I unlock a 1.x firmware iPhone, and use the stock features? Has the loophole that allowed THAT to happen been found in the Beta 2.0 firmware? I have no problem using the App Store, and not jailbreaking, I would just rather stick with T-Mobile.
SuperPac
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Battlezone said:
Unlocking refers to the process of modifying the phone so you can use it with a carrier other than the intended one. As far as I know this does not necessarily mean jailbreaking it.
Jailbreaking the phone allows you to bypass Apple's security measures to allow third party applications to be stored on and run by the phone.
Even when you unlock I believe there are some features you won't be able to use... visual voicemail is one of those. It's unclear when or how quickly phones with the 2.0 software will be jailbroken or unlocked.
Using an iPhone/Touch as an iTunes remote sounds sweet.
Last night I had my iMac set up in the living room hooked up to the stereo and my friends were so impressed with how nice/easy to use it was. They really liked Front Row. I can only imagine how blown away they'd be if I was remotely controlling the music with a Touch.
Last night I had my iMac set up in the living room hooked up to the stereo and my friends were so impressed with how nice/easy to use it was. They really liked Front Row. I can only imagine how blown away they'd be if I was remotely controlling the music with a Touch.
AT&T: New Official iPhone Site Updates
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iPhone.jsp
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-phone-service/specials/iphone-info.jsp
Some noticeable additions are..
- Confirmed Rate Plans
- Extended Details
10 more days to go
SuperPac
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Apple has posted a video walkthrough for the iPhone 3G.
We're what, a week and a half away from launch? Good times.
We're what, a week and a half away from launch? Good times.
SuperPac
Member
Upgrading to the 3G is becoming ever-more expensive. You have to pay for the accessories pack that used to come with the phone, AT&T is charging an $18 "upgrade fee" even if you have an old unsubsidized iPhone, they're charging $5 more for their SMS plans, and the data plan is $10 more a month.
I'm not sure if I'll bother upgrading right away anymore... that's kinda pricey.
I'm not sure if I'll bother upgrading right away anymore... that's kinda pricey.
I probably still will, damn you Apple.
AT&T announces iPhone 3G pricing plans
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/atandt-announces-iphone-3g-pricing-plans/
http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/01/atandt-announces-iphone-3g-pricing-plans/
viper60782
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mYm|17| said:
9pm. You can pay an additional 8.99 per month to have it start at 7pm, but I found it's not really worth it.
AT&T: iReady 3G Videos
New Customer
Current Customer
Also confirmation of a 8am launch is noted in the video.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
No way I'm paying $400. Apple/AT&T can kiss my grits!
Oops... Looks like I'm eligible.
Oops... Looks like I'm eligible.
aparisi2274
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Man what a difference 3 weeks makes.
When Jobs announced the new 3G I was all over it. I couldnt wait... Then all the info started coming out about the new plans and upgrades...
Right now I pay about $83 a month for the 450min plan with 1500 txt messages and unlimited data...
If I wanted to go to the 3G, I have to pay the $18 upgrade fee (WTF!?!?!?), another $10per month for my plan and the 1500 txt messages are now $15.
you know, I think I am going to pass since I am not that hard up for 3G speed, since I am not really surfing the net all that much on my phone... and since my current phone does everything this new one will with the exception of the 3G, I am out!!!
Thanks AT&T for leaving a sour taste in my mouth.
When Jobs announced the new 3G I was all over it. I couldnt wait... Then all the info started coming out about the new plans and upgrades...
Right now I pay about $83 a month for the 450min plan with 1500 txt messages and unlimited data...
If I wanted to go to the 3G, I have to pay the $18 upgrade fee (WTF!?!?!?), another $10per month for my plan and the 1500 txt messages are now $15.
you know, I think I am going to pass since I am not that hard up for 3G speed, since I am not really surfing the net all that much on my phone... and since my current phone does everything this new one will with the exception of the 3G, I am out!!!
Thanks AT&T for leaving a sour taste in my mouth.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I'm not too enthused (never was really), but I'm gonna cop regardless. What bothers me most is the inability to re-sell the thing since you have to go through ATT to activate it instead of using iTunes like before. You can't jump between the two by just changing out the SIM.
krypt0nian
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Yeah I would have fronted $200 for an upgrade from my current iphone but no way am I giving them another $500. I just got mine in February.
Couldn't say it better than this.
aparisi2274 said:
Couldn't say it better than this.
i have been holding off on getting a new phone for awhile and was trying to decide if i wanted to get this new iphone since the cost has come down a lot. i use tmobile now and have an old samsung, and my plan is $50 a month and i never go over. i dont have any of the cool things like internet or gps, but it works.
the cost of a plan with this iphone, tho, really gets up there. why do you have to pay for text messages when you have unlimited internet? that seems kind of silly.
the only other option i have been looking at is to stay with tmobile and get a blackberry curve, but they dont seem as functional or fun as an iphone. tmobile doesnt have any cool phones that i can find :'(
for those that have an iphone- do you guys think it is worth it?
the cost of a plan with this iphone, tho, really gets up there. why do you have to pay for text messages when you have unlimited internet? that seems kind of silly.
the only other option i have been looking at is to stay with tmobile and get a blackberry curve, but they dont seem as functional or fun as an iphone. tmobile doesnt have any cool phones that i can find :'(
for those that have an iphone- do you guys think it is worth it?
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Damn, the recent posts sound like the Sprint message boards before the Instinct came out. Alot of disappointment from existing customers. Thank goodness you can port numbers nowadays.
I am going to move to AT&T next week and getting a 3G. Going to be sweet. The plans are not much different than Sprint plans.
I am going to move to AT&T next week and getting a 3G. Going to be sweet. The plans are not much different than Sprint plans.
DaCocoBrova
Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I wonder if the browser is still prone to crashing while loading image-intensive pages...?
SouthernDragon
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Wait, so the iPhone plans cost a 100$ USD a month? D:
Also, Apple is tied to AT&T for 5 years? D:
Shit, that sucks! Only way I could afford an iPhone would be if the plans were something in the neighborhood of 50$ or so. : (
Also, Apple is tied to AT&T for 5 years? D:
Shit, that sucks! Only way I could afford an iPhone would be if the plans were something in the neighborhood of 50$ or so. : (
So the cheapest possible rate you end up paying is $75/month? Probably some random fees and taxes that go along with that as well.
Getting an unlocked 1st gen phone is sounding like a better and better idea, but then I guess I'd miss out on the whole iPhone experience (3G, GPS, internet anywhere). It'd just be an iPod with a phone inside it.
Probably some random fees and taxes that go along with that as well.Getting an unlocked 1st gen phone is sounding like a better and better idea, but then I guess I'd miss out on the whole iPhone experience (3G, GPS, internet anywhere). It'd just be an iPod with a phone inside it.
It's so much more than that.border said:So the cheapest possible rate you end up paying is $75/month?
Getting an unlocked 1st gen phone is sounding like a better and better idea, but then I guess I'd miss out on the whole iPhone experience (3G, GPS, internet anywhere). It'd just be an iPod with a phone inside it.
1st gen phones are still nothing to scoff at.
aparisi2274
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I would have been more than happy to pay an unsubsidized price and keep all my current pricing in place.
Either way, I am going to pass on the 3G. Having a slightly faster loading time on webpages is not worth all these new fees.
As long as I can run the apps from the appstore and what not, I am happy with my current EDGE phone
Either way, I am going to pass on the 3G. Having a slightly faster loading time on webpages is not worth all these new fees.
As long as I can run the apps from the appstore and what not, I am happy with my current EDGE phone
Well, if it was unlocked and on my T-Mobile prepaid plan I wouldn't have the Visual Voicemail or any kind of web access. And I might not even have iTunes applications, since who knows if the 2.0 Firmware will be capable of being unlocked.dallow_bg said:
But then again, I wouldn't be coughing up nearly a hundred dollars every month for service.
Marty Chinn
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Couple of things. First, is it worth getting the Apple Care for the iPhone? Second, is there any way to convince them to do the 550 min Family Plan on an iPhone? My wife will go for it if they can do that because then it's only $10 more than what our combine total would be otherwise. If not, she'll stick with Sprint. Is there any way to convince them that we're throwing them more money by allowing us to use the other Family Plan?
So what sort of fees usually pop up on an AT&T bill? Because I've got to admit, from north of the border, those plans don't look half bad when you consider the crap that starts up here at over $70 after fees and taxes.
Not saying they don't suck... just that they don't suck relatively speaking
Not saying they don't suck... just that they don't suck relatively speaking
Chairman85
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Does the in-store activation mean they will only be on sale in AT&T stores and not Apple stores?
Marty Chinn
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Oh ya, another question, are Apple stores opening early on that day because I believe they don't normally open at 10. Or will AT&T stores open at 10 while Apple stores open at regular hours?
aparisi2274
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Marty Chinn said:
they officially go on sale at 8am on July 11th. So most stores if not all, will be opening at 8am that day
Marty Chinn
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Err I meant 8 because Apple stores open at 10. I was wondering because the couple I'm close to are in a mall so I wasn't sure if they'd be opening early or not.
aparisi2274
Member
Marty Chinn said:
I am assuming that the stores in the mall will open at 8am...
Think of it like a midnight launch of a game... They will just open at 8am instead... If you arent sure, go to the store and ask them... I am sure they already know the deal...
how risky is jailbreaking?dallow_bg said:If I had to rely on the App store alone I wouldn't have cool tweaks like the T-Mobile color logo. Here's a screenshot (another tweak) of my 'fun page' of apps, notice the logo in the upper left.
I'm glad to be able to have both soon, Super Monkey Ball is mine!
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