Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Woop, just finished a race with one other guy who decided to humor me. Beginner track, I finished 10 laps ahead, used pitstop 3 times. >_>Sixfortyfive said:
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DAYTONA USA |OT| This is your crew chief. You're in a rolling start...
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VVV Mars VG
Member
Yeah it's great fun, made a few videos on my youtube, here's a manual transmission run with aracde difficulty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j4aFA8Ef4s
I really do hope it sells well and look forward to future conversions, would love to see Sega Rally, the PS2 60fps version was simply the Saturn version running smoother, so a perfect port would be nice. I also hope this is picked up on by companies such as Namco, imagine direct conversions of their top titles, awesome potential.
I really do hope it sells well and look forward to future conversions, would love to see Sega Rally, the PS2 60fps version was simply the Saturn version running smoother, so a perfect port would be nice. I also hope this is picked up on by companies such as Namco, imagine direct conversions of their top titles, awesome potential.
Iknos said:
Sorry dude, the PS2 version of SEGA Rally is based on the SEGA Saturn version running at 60fps and slightly improved 3D modelling. There is no version that is based on the Arcade. Please take a look at this video of the game running on the PS2 as proof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4YmDuI_gh4
So, it's going to be awhile before you get this excellence running on our consoles:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL_jih1Xk80
Phonomezer
Banned
I had forgotten how bad I am at this game 
Seriously need a wheel for it, the controls are a bit... well I don't remember them feeling like this, lol.
Seriously need a wheel for it, the controls are a bit... well I don't remember them feeling like this, lol.
Wow, I always thought it was! But you're right... I'm pretty sure the arcade handled transparencies far better than whatever that version was ported from.Trojan X said:
Again, the only reason I'd kill for a console SR would be the attract mode. The music on the home version just doesn't match up to the funky slap-bass of the arcade.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
Man i'd kill for Sega Rally 2 arcade HD
east of eastside
Banned
herzogzwei1989 said:
Sega listens dude:
http://forums.sega.com/showthread.php?332976-Sega-Racing-Classic-aka-Daytona-needs-Digital-Release&
Clumsyorchid, Sega community rep, was already asking me about Virtua Racing, Scud Race, Daytona 2, Sega Rally etc when I suggested them on their Daytona blog.
We can get these games, they just need the feedback and to see some enthusiasm for them.
Sega Rally + Sega Rally 2 could be released in a combo. Maybe Virtua Racing and Indy 500 together though that would require another license.
They already have the Daytona license again so it makes all these sense in the world to go ahead with Daytona 2.
Super GT aka Scud Race HD is glorious enough to be sold on it's own for $9.99.
Iknos said:
I've got it. I still want to see the Model 1 original in HD.
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Indy 500
Dr Frasier Crane
Member
isamu said:It really saddens to see that there are so many people in this thread who are unaware of SuperModel. You can basically play Daytona 2 and Scud in your living room all day every day. So many people asking for these games not even knowing it's right under their nose
Wait not only that but I can play Virtua Striker 2 ver 98! OH MY FUCKING LIFE!
The king of Virtua Striker entries...
GrayFoxPL
Member
isamu said:It really saddens to see that there are so many people in this thread who are unaware of SuperModel. You can basically play Daytona 2 and Scud in your living room all day every day. So many people asking for these games not even knowing it's right under their nose
What about it being illegal? Well, unless everyone got original arcade boards stashed in the basement.
At least for this Daytona people paid for.
the androgyne
Member
I will be disappointed if a Virtua Racing announcement trailer doesn't end with GET GOAL!
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
You can just strip logos and stuff out, can't you?Shaneus said:
Hell, I'm pretty sure Hang-On in Shenmue had changes made to it for that exact reason.
east of eastside
Banned
Sixfortyfive said:
Some minor stuff like Gulf and ELF logo's:
guitarhero
Member
Why not go the GTA route? Change the models enough and call them different names and BAM! problem solved.
"Choose car:
Lodge Snake
Gerrara G60
Trosher 411
McDeran GTR"
"Choose car:
Lodge Snake
Gerrara G60
Trosher 411
McDeran GTR"
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Man, what kind of asshole sets their lobby to "AT only," anyway?
GrayFoxPL said:
Heh, Come on, dude. I'm sure you and everyone knew the point of what Isamu said.
Like some of us here, we all immediately brought Daytona USA on XBL even though we had it on emu. However, you know what to do for the time being until when and if Scud Race comes out on consoles.
BTW - for all those that experience only playing 2 players only on the PSN and/or XBL version of the game. The issue that causes this is due to your network (NAT). For resolve, go to this page: http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f142/nat-issues-xbox-and-ps3-187282.html
herzogzwei1989
Banned
how do you change the NAT type within the router? It says something about port forwarding. I just don't get it.
herzogzwei1989
Banned
someone please reply.
I double dipped & I can tell one big difference: The sound mix.
On PS3 it's just me, the sound of racing & the music. On 360 there's some goddamn hick in the car constantly babbling on about my driving. I swear I didn't even know this backseat driving A hole was there until I played on 360. I'm like: "Please, man...SHUT THE FERK UP!!"
On PS3 it's just me, the sound of racing & the music. On 360 there's some goddamn hick in the car constantly babbling on about my driving. I swear I didn't even know this backseat driving A hole was there until I played on 360. I'm like: "Please, man...SHUT THE FERK UP!!"
herzogzwei1989
Banned
come on guys HELP ME OUT!
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
That's part of the arcade version, I'm cool with it.nickslicl said:
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
east of eastside said:
Awesome, we got their ears, the XBLA version had good first week sales, we've got nowhere to go but up.
As for the Sega Super GT licensing, Porsche shouldn't be a problem. Yes, EA is hogging the license, but they have a business relationship with Sega now (Sega's publishing Need for Speed: The Run and Battlefield 3 in Japan, I believe, possibly other games as well), and ex- Sega of America exec Peter Moore is running the show at EA now. I'm certain if Sega asked to have one Porsche in their game, EA would say yes.
Sega needs to renew their license with Ferrari for the F40, and getting the licensing for the McLaren F1 GTR and Dodge Viper should be easy since every racing game worth its weight in gold has them.
EDIT: Sega's publishing Shadows of the Damned in Japan, too, as well as any other EA title in the future.
http://deltagamer.com/8332/sega-and-electronic-arts-reach-landmark-deal
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Trojan X said:
Sorry to derail things a bit but when you say playing 2 players only, what exactly do you mean?
I don't think my router has ever worked properly, I've set up a static IP, opened all the ports needed and so on but in games like Daytona I only ever see one or two games available to join...this is not normal I take it?
I wasn't sure if the online aspect was just quiet/dead.
cheers
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
Trojan, I love your nebula videos, I have to ask what specs are your pc?! I'm guessing you're running an Intel CPU? I'm running AMD here and I'm still having that stuttering problem....... Driving me nuts :\
drugstore_cowboy said:
Apparently, there some people on this board that are experiencing network issues which would restrict them from only creating a 2 player lobby game and non participation of the Quick multiplayer game. This network issue got nothing to do with the game itself, Xbox LIVE or PSN, its to do with the person's own NAT settings in their router. Normally, just a complete restart or starting the router fresh (turning it off with no power until the memory blanks out) solves the problem, but with other people that cannot solve the issue with that method, that is where the link I provided comes in. Beyond this, the next advice I give to people is to get a technician to check their network to ensure that it is running at optimal and open performance. The technician should check everything including the cable/phone/network exchange that should be located around the corner from the person's resident/office/where-ever-the-router-is.
Bucket-o-roadkill said:
Thank you. Look out for the next episode of VERSUS BATTLECAST that will come out later today or tomorrow. I think you'll like it very much!
My PC specs are the following:
INTEL i7 920 2.6ghz O.C. 3.3ghz
12gb 1600mhhz
Radeon HD 5770
the androgyne
Member
Got the 360 version tonight. It's awesome... but is it perfect?
Like another poster said, i think the 360 pad controls are a bit off, nowhere near as bad as standard Daytona DC of course, but a little twitchy if you're not slight with the analog.
I think it was also mentioned before, but the road in the middle-distance is definitely bit blurry from time to time - honestly can't remember if the original arcade was like that. The popup does seem improved though!
Supreme nit-picking aside (weren't the cloud reflections brighter before?!), man it feels good after 17 years to finally be playing it the way it was meant to be played!
I still have a soft spot for my daggy Saturn version, but (HD aside) this really shows how far off they were back then!
I'm not serious enough for a real wheel, but i might pick up one of those speed wheels at some point down the track, anyone using one? How is it?
Like another poster said, i think the 360 pad controls are a bit off, nowhere near as bad as standard Daytona DC of course, but a little twitchy if you're not slight with the analog.
I think it was also mentioned before, but the road in the middle-distance is definitely bit blurry from time to time - honestly can't remember if the original arcade was like that. The popup does seem improved though!
Supreme nit-picking aside (weren't the cloud reflections brighter before?!), man it feels good after 17 years to finally be playing it the way it was meant to be played!
I still have a soft spot for my daggy Saturn version, but (HD aside) this really shows how far off they were back then!
I'm not serious enough for a real wheel, but i might pick up one of those speed wheels at some point down the track, anyone using one? How is it?
the androgyne said:
Controls are perfect. It handles exactly the same as the arcade and if you got a steering wheel then it will handle exactly the same as the Arcade. I can also confirm that the steering controls on the Model 2 emu and XBL game are EXACTLY the same with no change what so ever.
The mip-mapping or filtering issue involving in the middle of the screen is not in the arcade version. Bear in mind that this is a port from SEGA RACING CLASSICS and not DAYTONA USA.
This version of Daytona makes the Saturn and Dreamcast version looks like absolutely nothing.
Don't know what "those" speed wheels are. My advice is if you are going to get a steering wheel then get one that consider all the machines you got in your home and then some.
Holy crap! Check out his shifting techniques: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfYXRn0Cjcg&feature=related
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Despite being a huge fan of old-school gaming, a Sega whore, and an arcade racer nut, I'd never really played Daytona USA, save for one time in an arcade when I was 8. And even then, I had no idea what the hell was going on.
So I bought this game based on all the hype over the years and...
Yeah. It's fucking glorious. It's kind of remarkable how fun the driving mechanics are, given the game's age.
Edit: Also - and this is completely irrelevant to the above - am I the only one who thinks the distortion and tint in screenshots of arcade games is really appealing? I remember seeing those Daytona 2 shots in EGM way back in 1998, and there's something about it that makes it really appealing to me. I kinda wish there was a "semi-busted arcade monitor" filter in more games... sorta like a more dramatic version of what they did with 3s online."
So I bought this game based on all the hype over the years and...
Yeah. It's fucking glorious. It's kind of remarkable how fun the driving mechanics are, given the game's age.
Edit: Also - and this is completely irrelevant to the above - am I the only one who thinks the distortion and tint in screenshots of arcade games is really appealing? I remember seeing those Daytona 2 shots in EGM way back in 1998, and there's something about it that makes it really appealing to me. I kinda wish there was a "semi-busted arcade monitor" filter in more games... sorta like a more dramatic version of what they did with 3s online."
A little de-rail but the second Episode of VERSUS BATTLECAST is now LIVE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9QctiWuumk
Trojan X said:
The 360 controls only seem a bit off if you play the PS3 version. The PSN one handles perfectly analogue and smoothly, where as the 360 controls are ever-so-slightly twitchy.
It's a strange thing to be different between the two versions, but it's real none the less. As I said, the 360 version is perfectly playable, but the handling on the PSN release makes it the definitive version to get.
Bought the PS3 version, downloaded the 360 demo a few days later. Felt the handling difference immediately. For example, the slight sweep of the left stick to hold your line on the turn leading up the tunnel in Dinosaur Canyon is easy on the PS3 version, handling just like the arcade version.
On the 360 one, there feels like there is a deadzone on the 360's left stick, which prevents subtle, smooth steering. I adapted to it quickly, enough, but was disappointed that Sega had almost pulled a Daytona USA 2001 on the XBLA version.
On the 360 one, there feels like there is a deadzone on the 360's left stick, which prevents subtle, smooth steering. I adapted to it quickly, enough, but was disappointed that Sega had almost pulled a Daytona USA 2001 on the XBLA version.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Unless you're using the arcade cabinet's wheel and force feedback setup, no home port "handles just like the arcade version." What you are noting are differences between control devices, not between different versions of the game.SPE said:
Other than the inherent problem that the 360 controller has with drifting analog sticks over time (which has been an inconvenience for me across several games), there's really nothing to complain about with the way the 360 version plays.
the androgyne
Member
SPE said:
I find the exit out of tunnel highlights the twitchiness the most. The back of the car slides out way too easily as you navigate the slight turn before the sharper right up the hill.
Surprising given all the options for wheels, that there's not the ability to adjust the analog controller sensitivity.
Truth be told if you adjust the settings on Daytona USA 2001, you can get it pretty close to what the 360 version is doing now, it's only the default controls that are borked.
Sixfortyfive said:
That's not true. If the 360 pad had an inherent issue that cause twitchy steering, it would be apparent in all racing games. Which is not the case. It is definitely a difference between version. It's not even that the 360 controls have a deadzone to account for stick drift, as the twitchness is across the entire range of movement of the left stick - not just moving from centre.
As mentioned earlier, just download both versions and see for yourself. I can't be the only Daytona fan with both a 360 and PS3... On the PS3, you press the stick a tiny bit to the left, and your trusty Hornet moves left a little. Push it a touch more, and the car mores a little bit more. Normal analogue movement, as you find in GT, Forza, Ridge Racer etc.
On the 360, push the stick a little and nothing, push it a little bit more and the car moves in a noticeable turn. Push it a tiny bit further and nothing, then move the stick another little bit and again the car turns in another noticeable step. Twitchy, digital feeling controls as you find in Daytona 2001.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I haven't tried the PS3 version, but I did notice that if you very gradually move the stick to the side, there's a definite point where it sort of "clicks" and your car zooms off to the side a bit. Guess I'll try the PS3 version tomorrow to see wassup.
bought this yesterday as I discovered I had some unused credit on my US PSN account (I'm in the UK).
Attract mode just instantly hits you with nostalgia as soon as the music kicks in. My kids were giving me strange looks as I fawned over this 'old looking' game.
First impressions are that the game feels a little sped-up. Starting a beginner race it was like the keystone kops and it took me a moment to acclimatise. I don't think there should have been any differences in the arcade versions? Like 50Hz slowdown in PAL territories? Played the arcade version a lot only a few days ago so not nostalgia goggles.
And view 2 (obviously the best view) seems to have a longer bonnet (hood) than the arcade game. Have they messed around with the field of view to get the 16:9 screen? That might explain the hood and the slightly different impression of speed.
I like the manual transmission mapping, just wish the PS3 controller had the buttons more lined up with where the gears would be, rather than a N/S/E/W layout. And the steering on the controller is very sensitive. I do ok by pushing forward on the left stick and then rolling it to give me more control over the inputs, but its still a bit twitchy for me.
I have a DFGT wheel which I'll try at the weekend, but how does that handle manual transmission, as it only has a sequential shifter which is clearly no good for gear drifts.
Attract mode just instantly hits you with nostalgia as soon as the music kicks in. My kids were giving me strange looks as I fawned over this 'old looking' game.
First impressions are that the game feels a little sped-up. Starting a beginner race it was like the keystone kops and it took me a moment to acclimatise. I don't think there should have been any differences in the arcade versions? Like 50Hz slowdown in PAL territories? Played the arcade version a lot only a few days ago so not nostalgia goggles.
And view 2 (obviously the best view) seems to have a longer bonnet (hood) than the arcade game. Have they messed around with the field of view to get the 16:9 screen? That might explain the hood and the slightly different impression of speed.
I like the manual transmission mapping, just wish the PS3 controller had the buttons more lined up with where the gears would be, rather than a N/S/E/W layout. And the steering on the controller is very sensitive. I do ok by pushing forward on the left stick and then rolling it to give me more control over the inputs, but its still a bit twitchy for me.
I have a DFGT wheel which I'll try at the weekend, but how does that handle manual transmission, as it only has a sequential shifter which is clearly no good for gear drifts.
Para bailar La Bomba
Banned
mrklaw said:
It's easier to drift with the sequential shifter than no shifter, but yeah H-shifter is the way to go.
[rant]It amazes me how a game as old as this, is more of a "sim" than most contemporary arcade racers, Burnout, Driver, Motorstorm, Split/Second, Blur, etc. I hope people remember this next time an arcade racer comes out with no wheel support....[/rant]
the androgyne
Member
Hmm, maybe i'll take back what i said about the 360 versions controls. Though i'm yet to compare to the PS3 version, the 360 one is fine really, it just feels like you don't need half of the play on the analog stick. I'm having an absolute ball with this, being able to see the expert course properly vs the Saturn version, it feels so good to race around!
the androgyne
Member
What happened here, 17 years waiting and this thread dies in a couple weeks! Thread needs a rolling start!
Last nite on 360 version for some reason it was failing to upload my records so i'm posting them here (also since globally methinks i don't have a chance!)
Overall time has plenty to improve on (first lap was a dud) but the second and best lap i think was pretty decent?...
Expert MT Time Trial
Lap: 1.41:62
Overall: 3.36:98
Last nite on 360 version for some reason it was failing to upload my records so i'm posting them here (also since globally methinks i don't have a chance!)
Overall time has plenty to improve on (first lap was a dud) but the second and best lap i think was pretty decent?...
Expert MT Time Trial
Lap: 1.41:62
Overall: 3.36:98
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
the androgyne said:
Waiting on an EU release has made a lot of us loose interest. SEGA fucked up big time there.