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Extra Credits
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Portnow is hit or miss in my opinion.
His understanding of psychology is pretty lackluster in my opinion and some of the stuff he says is down-right dangerous. At times he applies pop-psychology in a way that has some serious ramifications.
using pop psychology is like playing around with your brothers chemistry set to see if you can make something explode. Except you are playing with someones brain and could possibly send them messages (or reinforce messages) that are harmful to people.
oh and if I hear Portnow say "life experience" one more time I'm gonna kill someone on impulse (he's in like half the game design panels at PAX).
His understanding of psychology is pretty lackluster in my opinion and some of the stuff he says is down-right dangerous. At times he applies pop-psychology in a way that has some serious ramifications.
using pop psychology is like playing around with your brothers chemistry set to see if you can make something explode. Except you are playing with someones brain and could possibly send them messages (or reinforce messages) that are harmful to people.
oh and if I hear Portnow say "life experience" one more time I'm gonna kill someone on impulse (he's in like half the game design panels at PAX).
lazybones18 said:
Extra Credits continually take my posts on gaming and turns them into a warm multimedia tapioca for the sick masses.
And I'm not hating.
But I would have extended their "a silent character is not a blank slate" argument a bit.
One of the most interesting narrative factors to game storytelling is the hero's lack of autonomous freedom. The player is half of the hero. The player is a limited God, leading people to their fates, but unable to rescue them through his or her own invention, but only by the available rules of the game world, of which the player has limited to no control.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
As someone who's worked on numerous game projects in the past myself, none of what he's mentioned seems at all unfeasible or otherwise something that should be casually dismissed, at least when it comes to the game design-specific stuff. Market and production realities do have a tendency to make the idealistic views he likes to espouse harder to implement in practice of course, which is where I'm assuming you're coming from. Designers in general don't really seem to worry about the big picture as much in terms of the pipeline/process/business aspects when it comes to making games as a whole. (And yes, I realize that's a gross over-generalization, but it's just what I've observed personally through several different dev teams).Jackson said:
Plus I can see how the general tone of their pieces can come across as a bit over-authoritative in a "this is how to make things better why aren't you already doing it like this" sort of way.
dragonlife
Member
I really liked the sexual diversity/Persona 4 episode.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I do find the way he includes himself when talking about designers kind of strange. Maybe he's using it in the "royal we" sense.
NotebookJ2
Member
Well, the latest episode kinda pinpointed my issue with the entire graphics issue this generation that I was unable to articulate, though maybe it's only more common on the fanside that people get things mixed up. I would hope the developers would know better.
Also, the opening music sounds awfully familiar.
That always kinda bugged me.
Also, the opening music sounds awfully familiar.
firehawk12 said:
That always kinda bugged me.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The opening theme is from a game, but I can't remember where now. :lol
Mortrialus
Banned
firehawk12 said:
Super Mario 64, bob-omb battlefield.
dragonlife29 said:
This was probably my favorite episode, this and Learning from Other M.
Mortrialus
Banned
Akainu said:
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Fimbulvetr
Member
HK-47 said:
He also claimed Kratos felt bad about killing people at the end of the first GOW.
And he constantly compliments ME2.
They should really fix/remove his voice. Hell, a computer-generated voice à la Stephen Hawking would be far more accessible than the current one. It grates my ears and I feel like I'm listening to some mouth-breathing basement dweller talking about the rule differences between editions of Dungeons & Dragons.
Freeza Under The Shower
Member
Fimbulvetr said:
How is that questionable? I mean, it's pretty much the point of the story that Kratos is able to question his own (previous) actions.
Even when he did not feel bad about it before, there is the explicit ".. what have I become?" cutscene and the ending itself, to put the idea forward that Kratos has changed to some degree.
"feeling bad about it" in a general sense is overstretching though.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
The extra credit dude always draws the wrong conclusions or mentions terrible examples that completely work against the points he's making.
Also didn't he mention how he likes modern warfare over doom 2?
Also fallout 3 and good aesthetics?
Shut the fuck up!
Also didn't he mention how he likes modern warfare over doom 2?
Also fallout 3 and good aesthetics?
Shut the fuck up!
Mortrialus
Banned
kai3345 said:
Confused about Naoto because of her Masculine qualities is a better term. His attraction to Naoto originated when he assumed Naoto was male. Besides, word of god confirms hes gay. This debate is stupid and insidiously homophobic.
Fimbulvetr
Member
Zeitgeister said:
That's what I was referring to.
The only people he's ever felt bad about murdering were his own family.
He generally didn't have problems killing people before Ares tricked him and he certainly didn't after that or even after defeating Ares. And he definitely didn't at all feel bad about killing Ares like EC claimed.
He acknowledges that he's become a monster(though not the fact that he sort of started off as one), yes, but that doesn't mean he feels guilty for all of the things he's done, at least the game never gives any indication he does.
There was definitely guilt and regret, but only for a single set of events.
Ahoi-Brause
Banned
Well Fallout 3 is hardly a game with good aesthetics if you even need mods to fix the standard idle position.Gomu Gomu said:
Maybe they were referring to the menus and interface with the Pip-boy and such. Or maybe he likes the destroyed 50's-esque "yesterday's tomorrow" look.Ahoi-Brause said:
Complaining about things like the idle animation is focusing on graphics/tech over aesthetics without seeing the distinction between them. Which was the point of the video to begin with. I don't personally like the look of Fallout, but I understand where people who like it are coming from.
I generally see a game/movie/painting/etc's "aesthetic" as a holistic term. So, for me, the Fallout aesthetic comes from the menus, pip-boy, character design, architecture/world design more than texture rendering or specific idle position.Roto13 said:
And let me reiterate, I don't really like the Fallout aesthetic myself.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Did they confirm he was gay? Because they went out of their way to avoid talking about that in the interviews I read when the game came out in the US (and in the strategy guide). All I remember is that they decided to twist the two anime tropes around - the young punk and the young detective.Mortrialus said:
Besides, as I've mentioned elsewhere, Naoto is the more interesting queer character in Persona 4 anyway!
Fimbulvetr
Member
firehawk12 said:
They came out saying it was left purposely ambiguous.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Yeah. I remember being really frustrated by the lack of a response. Also, they wouldn't talk about Naoto at all, even though Fitch tried to talk to them about her.Fimbulvetr said:
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Was that the original intent, or was it due to the localization team?Fimbulvetr said:
WrenchNinja
Member
Original intent.XiaNaphryz said:
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The original intent, specifically, was that they wanted to subvert the gangster/yankee trope by having a guy who liked to sew. Anything else seemed to be implied.XiaNaphryz said:
The Myth of the Gun
I like this episode. Obviously full of sweeping generalizations, but I think there was some interesting elaboration on ideas that a lot of video game players are already aware of.
I like this episode. Obviously full of sweeping generalizations, but I think there was some interesting elaboration on ideas that a lot of video game players are already aware of.
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
I like this one. They make some good points. Especially about the fact that we can't have all of the features and services we want without letting certain companies store certain data. People complain about the fact that you have to manually type in your credit card information every time you want to buy Wii Points without a points card. 
JakkuFurosu
Member
clicked the video just outta boredom and expected crap.Here I am 6 videos later still interested.......really good stuff.
Fimbulvetr
Member
This week's is on Game Reviews: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/3587-Game-Reviews
Whoah, shit is going down on Twitter. You'll have to read it backwards because I'm not rearranging all of this.
Basically, The Escapist hasn't been paying the Extra Credits team, the Extra Credits team has quit and wants their IP back, and now The Escapist feels that they are somehow entitled to 75% of the money they fundraised for Allison's medical bills.
So yeah, The Escapist is apparently totally evil.
Basically, The Escapist hasn't been paying the Extra Credits team, the Extra Credits team has quit and wants their IP back, and now The Escapist feels that they are somehow entitled to 75% of the money they fundraised for Allison's medical bills.
So yeah, The Escapist is apparently totally evil.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
WTF. Maybe this is part of the reason for some of the topics they've been covering recently?Roto13 said:Whoah, shit is going down on Twitter. You'll have to read it backwards because I'm not rearranging all of this.
Basically, The Escapist hasn't been paying the Extra Credits team, the Extra Credits team has quit and wants their IP back, and now The Escapist feels that they are somehow entitled to 75% of the money they fundraised for Allison's medical bills.
So yeah, The Escapist is apparently totally evil.
I wonder if any other game news coverage sites will cover this. Other than Kotaku anyway.