All the footage released has an encoding issue that makes the framerate seem lower than it actually is. Only DF seems to have the 1080p/ full 30fps video and they're not sharing.
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Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4) announced, launch title [1080p/30fps]
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BigTnaples
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Where are these "Target" and "Theory" shots models coming from? Did I miss somthing?
Killzone Shadowfall
Infamous Second Son
Drive Club
WatchDogs
and Possibly BattleField 4
all on launch day?
Best launch ever.
Killzone Shadowfall
Infamous Second Son
Drive Club
WatchDogs
and Possibly BattleField 4
all on launch day?
Best launch ever.
what is this from?
phosphor112
Banned
It's a slide from their technology presentation.
The lighting presentation they did at a conference.
Rogue_Ledr
Banned
We may have a surprise or two for the launch, as well, after E3.
IonicSnake
Banned
I don't know if its just the iPad screen but that slide looks insane!
Not just the screen, it looks really great. I hope they can hit that target by launch.
flipswitch
Member
It's what they're aiming for.
The better the graphical fidelity gets the more the small stuff start to matter. For example, I am wondering whether those two strings descending the side of the hood at the front animate according the motion of the individual. It'd probably bug me now but this generation I wouldn't have cared and last generation I wouldn't even expected them to even exist.
So in the end, the small things (cloth physics, animations, collision detection, LoD pop in, object pop in, texture pop in) are what will define next gen and some folks say we are hitting that diminishing return at a place where there won't be substantial difference between the two gens... yea lawl.
IF they managed to pull that off, I can only imagine what games will look like 3 years from now.
I'm pretty sure they are also aiming for cloth physics. They just needed to wait until the had a devkit with the dedicated audio hardware since they were doing all that on the CPU in February and move some things into GPU compute. They also may wind up with another CPU core to work with and they'll have substantially more RAM. Big upgrades are in store for this game from what we saw in Feb.
paradise_circus
Member
took anyone attention to the music and how genuinely good it's fitting to the scene?
I am very impressed by how 'clean' KZSF looks (no grainy or foggy filter shit). The videos and pics look very smooth and clean. I am extremely interested to see how the MP looks (since I MP is generally a little less graphically impressive than SP). I know that first generation games look nothing like later gen games on the system, but I am very impressed already.
I am tiered of the over saturated 'grainy/dirty/out of focused/confusing shit of constant filters applied to many top tier games this gen....
I am tiered of the over saturated 'grainy/dirty/out of focused/confusing shit of constant filters applied to many top tier games this gen....
The music during the city flyover is fantastic.
Personally, I'm not expecting much given it's a launch title. KZ2 came about 3 years after the launch of PS3 and so they a lot of time gathering experience and iterating on their engine before it was put out. As we both know, SF doesn't feature tessellation. So things like that and the part about exploiting compute functions for physics related tasks are things we ought to expect from their next title. I'd be pleasantly surprised if they can pull it somewhat pull it off for SF however.
I thought I was the only one. It has a Blade Runner vibe in the beginning.
SniperHunter
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It's actually using FXAA at the moment, I hope they implement that new AA method they were talking about in those slides before release
BTW the B-roll footage is from February, it was uploaded to the Youtube channel called Killzonedotcom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUjQ4DJXLzw
I'm pretty sure it is using tessellation for edges (look at the fingers/rubble piles), just not as a replacement for LODs.
Templar_Dante
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I really want to see MP for KZ:SF! After all that eye candy 20/2. I would love to see them expand it a bit, maybe bigger maps, vehicles. If it plays like a next gen KZ, I'll be happy all the same.
This post reminds me of Watch Dogs. The leaves on the ground don't react to the wind and it's all I think about whenever I see a clip of that game. Why are the damn leaves glued to the ground?!
That Killzone target model is one of the best characters I've ever seen. Different parts of his outfit actually look like different materials. Hopefully they're able to hit that model in game.
SniperHunter
Banned
yea same here, I am hoping for a BF clone in the Killzone universe >_>I really want to see MP for KZ:SF! After all that eye candy 20/2. I would love to see them expand it a bit, maybe bigger maps, vehicles. If it plays like a next gen KZ, I'll be happy all the same.
but most likely we will get infantry only 32 player arena battles like Killzone 2
paradise_circus
Member
absolutely and the transition to scenes without music to scenes with music is very good. it really feels like the music direction in games like journey or portal.
The material differences are related to the lighting model. They can just designate different parts of textures as different materials and the light will reflect/refract accordingly. It's really cool and speeds up development a lot. It's very easy for this game to do.
Rogue_Ledr
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I would really hope they would go 64 with this one. IT is a next-gen game!
I really want to see MP for KZ:SF! After all that eye candy 20/2. I would love to see them expand it a bit, maybe bigger maps, vehicles. If it plays like a next gen KZ, I'll be happy all the same.
Yeah, I hope they mostly show MP at E3. I'm not a big MP guy but I liked KZ2's, even though I mostly played with bots because of my college internet connection, and I don't want to spoil too much of the campaign. It's going to be difficult for me to go on blackout for next gen games after E3. I've been analyzing them so much recently but I don't want to ruin the games for myself.
SniperHunter
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64 Player infantry only battles don't work. I played that Battlefield 3 close encounter DLC on PC with 64 players, it was a complete clusterfuck.
Yup. Some just narrow their view on graphics alone or FX alone, but it is everything working together to give you that experience. It is things that pure brute technical force alone cannot achieve.
cebri.one
Member
It's actually using FXAA at the moment, I hope they implement that new AA method they were talking about in those slides before release
BTW the B-roll footage is from February, it was uploaded to the Youtube channel called Killzonedotcom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUjQ4DJXLzw
OMFG. It looks so much better than previous footage i've seen.
mytsoutsou
Neo Member
We need 32VS32 and a pyrrhus rise remake, come on GG give us mayhem,and if you can give us insane mode where 64VS64 battle in radec like map
SniperHunter
Banned
There are a couple subtle changes. The newer model has duct tape on the mask hoses and material goes through the clasps properly. The eyes are also narrowed a bit to make it look more menacing. The target one is the one used on the advertisements in Europe.
Man, reading over this post I've realized I've spent WAY too long looking at this footage. I've gone through it frame by frame several times.
this is the first time i see this. thank you
AnbaLeumas
Banned
I'm still not sure if I'll get this near launch. If I do decide to get a FPS near launch, though, it'll be this.
You're right. Case in point:
Made a side by side comparison highlighting the similarities/differences that aren't noticeable at first glance. Outside of the lighting, the two models are near identical IMO. I am going to say that the model on the left is an improved version of the older in-game model.
And don't worry, we all obsess over the things we really like.
Always-honest
Banned
Why? It's the same demo. Just slightly different playthrough
But yeah, pretty damn laughable that some people think it looks like any other Killzone
One thing that annoyed me about the demo was using the same soldier's face on each soldier seen. Hope they add variation when the game is released.
Templar_Dante
Banned
^^^ Agreed. Well, lets hope we get a BF clone. 8GB GDDR5... the only limitation would be the artistic or the general direction/feel GG want to take KZ MP into next gen with.
Frankly, I want a KZ with vehicles+large open maps. Like, Planetside 2! Just imagine!
SniperHunter
Banned
Well it has to differentiate from the crowd...Planetside 2 will eventually come to PS4, Battlefield 4 will probably have 64 player with big maps etc. I think it will be infantry only, KZ2 and KZ3 had very poor vehicular levels/sections.
They absolutely will. The faces and animation were worse than KZ3 so there's no way those won't improve, especially with the extra RAM.
shinobi602
Member
I haven't been this hyped to play a game in a long while. I don't know why, but I love rewatching that gameplay demo. Hell, haven't been this hyped for a new console in forever.
PS4+this+Watch Dogs+Driveclub...
Perfect trio for me. HNNNNNNNNNNNG.
PS4+this+Watch Dogs+Driveclub...
Perfect trio for me. HNNNNNNNNNNNG.
if you look at this guy's post history, he has nothing but hatred for SONY. If thats the case then MS should let all its franchises die, since no xbox franchise sell except Halo and Gears wont be exclusive anymore. Bungie doesnt make Halo anymore and Halo 4 was utter garbage in my opinion
If you are feeling insecured since you know xone will be toasted by PS4 in terms of quality and sales ,then send a petition to MS to delay the launch of xone in order to include better HW
On topic, KZSF can become a monster franchise this gen and so could Drive Club
I'm not sure that it's worth comparing those 2 shots because the lightning is completely different. On the demo shot you can sense the light influence of the big fire happening on the vsa headquarters screen right. It explains the orange dominance among the colours.
i believe the PS3 version had 3 types or 5 types of enimies. granted they all have red eyes. but different mask / outfit /ability i think.
so i expect the PS4 version to have at least the same ammount if not more.
My eyes are on killzone and drive club... i really want drive club. it sounds amazing. plus i am a COD addict. i am not sure what games to buy i want them all. i have been saving not to buy ps3 games for a while now because i know there are a big collection of games coming out for the system.
IonicSnake
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It would be awesome if KZ: SF had some RPG elements in it. Walk around in a big city like the one we saw, buy and sell gear at vendors, talk to NPCs, get side quests and so on. When I saw the city before they blew it up I immediately thought of next-gen Mass Effect.
I really hope GG next game is a RPG.
I really hope GG next game is a RPG.
You.. You must be joking..
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