Way more interesting. If I get a PS4, it's for Knack and The Witness.
I will enjoy spectating KZ:SF though.
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Killzone Shadow Fall (PS4) announced, launch title [1080p/30fps]
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Way more interesting. If I get a PS4, it's for Knack and The Witness.
I will enjoy spectating KZ:SF though.
Infamous for me. But I'm also getting Killzone on launch day as well.
Gold_Loot
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Nothing really wrong with that statement. Knack just might be that sleeper hit everyone discovers a few months after the launch buzz dies down..
Killzone looks awesome, but knack has some lovely Kameo vibes going for it.
This. Infamous has been impressing me more just because it's open world as well.
Knack I want to check out at some point. For some reason 3D platformers are very hit or miss for me, even though I love 2D ones.
Meus Renaissance
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I read it was using 2GB
One thing is for certain; I certainly hope Knack and Shadow Fall come out on launch day.
Drive Club and Second Son should be held off for early 2014 launches since the cannibalization potential is very high. GTA and GT6 / Forza 5 are all launching within a similar window at the end of the year.
Sony needs tiered releases. Blowing the load all at once will do none of the developers any good.
Drive Club and Second Son should be held off for early 2014 launches since the cannibalization potential is very high. GTA and GT6 / Forza 5 are all launching within a similar window at the end of the year.
Sony needs tiered releases. Blowing the load all at once will do none of the developers any good.
My info is from tech slides released by Guerrilla doing a postmortem on the demo. Not a rumor.
I think SF, DC, and Knack will all be day 1 and SS will be either a month later, depending on launch date, or early 2014. The first three are different enough genres to round out the launch line up whereas they can wait a bit for SS with ACIV and Watch_Dogs coming.
Portugeezer
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Whilst I think Killzone will end up being 30fps at launch, the demo from 3 months back being 30fps doesn't disprove this.
It was a smooth 30fps, locked with no dips, even during action, this means on average the game runs at higher than 30fps but is locked to 30fps for consistency like most console games.
Wouldn't be too farfetched to think they were running at around 45fps and could optimise for 9 months or so. Remember they said the single player portion was already finished back in March, and isn't framerate optimisation usually done towards the end of development?
Personally I can live with 30fps with a controller from, playing 6 feet away from my TV, and I think for console graphics to keep improving 30fps is kind of a necessity (it's not a popular opinion on the GAF and I know this, but notice people bashing next gen COD graphics)
qa_engineer
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While I do agree that 60fps would be nice for most if not all games, I'm more than happy with Killzone: SF looking the way it does and running at a rock solid 30fps.
Crazy to think how else GG can push this game as well as seeing Santa Monica and ND pushing this even further.
HomerSimpson-Man
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in console gaming? prove it
take any "top100 videogames in history" list and tell how many are 60fps on console.
every killzone-butthurt troll finds its way into the killzone threads to say something no-one cares. the killzone gifs hurt alot it seems
In retrospect, the XBOne reveal of games, especially Call of Duty, make Killzone Shadow Fall look in more incredible when you watch it after. The opening scene and this blow me away.
JCreasy
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I just posted in this on the OT side, but I feel it has extraordinary relevance here, given the implications.
Pixar is using proper raytracing for the first time in Monster's University:
http://thisanimatedlife.blogspot.ch/2013/05/pixars-chris-horne-sheds-new-light-on.html
What that means is that up until now, even Pixar was using hacks to draw lighting. At the link, Chris Horne explains that the earlier attempts seen in Cars were " haphazard and mostly broken support."
This bit here reminds me of exactly what Killzone: SF is doing: "We fake almost everything - mirrors, wet surfaces, eyes, shiny props like belt buckles/spoons/swords/etc."
So the fact that Killzone: SF is even touching raytracing, to the extent that it can, is quite profound. Granted, it's not the realized implementation we'll see in MU, but I don't think CG animation and games have ever been this close in sharing technology.
I'm a total novice in my understanding of all of this, but that's my read anyway.
Pixar is using proper raytracing for the first time in Monster's University:
http://thisanimatedlife.blogspot.ch/2013/05/pixars-chris-horne-sheds-new-light-on.html
What that means is that up until now, even Pixar was using hacks to draw lighting. At the link, Chris Horne explains that the earlier attempts seen in Cars were " haphazard and mostly broken support."
This bit here reminds me of exactly what Killzone: SF is doing: "We fake almost everything - mirrors, wet surfaces, eyes, shiny props like belt buckles/spoons/swords/etc."
So the fact that Killzone: SF is even touching raytracing, to the extent that it can, is quite profound. Granted, it's not the realized implementation we'll see in MU, but I don't think CG animation and games have ever been this close in sharing technology.
I'm a total novice in my understanding of all of this, but that's my read anyway.
It's probably a symbolic thing used by the extremists that are attacking the VSA. The upper class didn't even wear masks on Helghan since the Helghast had adapted to the climate but the masks were adopted as a source of pride and intimidation by Visari.
qa_engineer
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I was just thinking that myself. Hopefully they clear that up through in-game storytelling! I would like to see a new helghast characters without breathing masks and just glowing eyes.
SniperHunter
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they have a target goal? So the final game will look even better?
Why do they still use riflemen in the future? Don't worry about it Violater.
The target was for lighting specifically and it was just a still image but, yeah, it looked better than the demo.
I expect the game to look substantially better at E3 and better still at launch. KZ2 went through some pretty big improvements in the last three months of development and those jumps could be even bigger here once they get final devkits. It seems like they frontloaded the actual game design so they could just push graphics toward the end.
Dictator93
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It is not the same as tracing a ray though...
I really wish they just said ray casting/marching instead... lots of technigques march rays... It is quite inaccurate to call it ray tracing...
SniperHunter
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nice! I hope they implement that new AA method they were talking about (forgot the name) FXAA is horrible.
TMAA, yeah me too. I hate FXAA. They seem pretty intent on getting some kind of MSAA in there so I have hope.
Demoncarnotaur
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Definitely a Persian, lol.
Omg. :lol
Can't unsee
SniperHunter
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Actually a FXAA and TMAA combo would be fantastic! I believe Battlefield 3 also uses something similar (post processing AA and MSAA produce a good image)
I think TMAA is actually a mix of post processing and MSAA based on what works best.
I honestly don't see the resemblance at all. I get what people are looking at but it really doesn't evoke Garfield to me.
Saberus
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I pee in 60fps, if dips below, I stop.
SniperHunter
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oh ok, looking forward to seeing the end result!
yea I think the helghast always looked kinda cute, especially the snipers with their arched backs
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qa_engineer
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Made a side by side comparison highlighting the similarities/differences that aren't noticeable at first glance. Outside of the lighting, the two models are near identical IMO. I am going to say that the model on the left is an improved version of the older in-game model.
Thanks for this. The hoses, clasps, and strings from the hoodie all look a bit better on the model on the left. Narrower eyes make it look a lot more menacing too.
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Even in KZ1 and KZ2, the Helghans didn't need to use the masks, but Visari made them to because it was now part of their culture and identity.
TimeEffect
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Made a side by side comparison highlighting the similarities/differences that aren't noticeable at first glance. Outside of the lighting, the two models are near identical IMO. I am going to say that the model on the left is an improved version of the older in-game model.
Original model had an accurate clip, just not material properly running through it. They fixed it now.
qa_engineer
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I think it's just the difference in the colored lighting in an actual scene versus the white lighting for the promo pose. The model on the left looks a bit better, especially in the eyes. Much less cartoony.
Portugeezer
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Anyone get an idea of what the FOV might be?
And maybe what the FOV is in the COD and BF4 gameplays?
And maybe what the FOV is in the COD and BF4 gameplays?
I have to agree. First thing I did after watching the Xbone reveal was go back and watch the Shadow Fall demo again. The difference between COD and Killzone is like comparing an early launch game to a late gen game within a console cycle.
I don't get it. PS4 will probably have a good half dozen first person shooters available on day 1. Why should DriveClub be held off for 2 racing games that aren't even on PS4 or Second Son because of two other open world games?
Not saying I think Killzone should be held off either. Shadow Fall and DriveClub are probably going to be the graphical showcase games we see plastered on PS4 commercials.
platformmaster918
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When I pick up PS4 day one this will be the game that comes with it
MisterC20XX
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I finally got around to watching the Feb. 20th Shadow Fall footage on my TV. Even though it was only 720p it looked damn good all bright and blown up at 120hz. Day 1, Guerrilla Games.
The things they do with depth of field... amazing. But there are things that I wonder about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDfu1mYQXEg
From 5:18 to 5:20, there is a dramatic change in color/definition in textures and even the color of the explosions. Or is this just an example of terrible compression?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDfu1mYQXEg
From 5:18 to 5:20, there is a dramatic change in color/definition in textures and even the color of the explosions. Or is this just an example of terrible compression?
Tone mapping.
http://i.imgur.com/89L5ong.jpg
Guys, doesn't he look a bit like an Assassin?
OMG,
Guys, doesn't he look a bit like an Assassin?
OMG,
Killzone:SF is just a project name, this is in fact Assassin's Creed 5! Fuck
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