Triggerhappytel
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If you're counting Death Stranding (a 2019 game), then you also have to consider The Last of Us 2, which will probably sell more than any other exclusive from Sony or MS this gen.
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GI.biz: Horizon's success is Sony's next step on trek to 100 million
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If you're counting Death Stranding (a 2019 game), then you also have to consider The Last of Us 2, which will probably sell more than any other exclusive from Sony or MS this gen.
KZObsessed
Member
Yeah, I actually completely forgot about TLOU 2, that'll be huge.
Software-wise, next 50 million PS4 consoles need to be pushed with 20+ good games per year [both exclusives and 3rd party] of varied genres [something Sony is really excelling at], which will satisfy old users and attract new ones.
The current exclusive [1st party or timed] lineup from Sony sounds very promising, and will ensure healthy 2017 and 2018 offerings.
The current exclusive [1st party or timed] lineup from Sony sounds very promising, and will ensure healthy 2017 and 2018 offerings.
ReplacementPelican
Member
I hope so.
I got an Xbox One shortly after launch because I loved Halo, Gears and Forza but the former two have little resonance with me anymore and I can really take-or-leave Forza. As a result I gave my Xbox One to my brother as he went off to University but have just managed to grab an Xbox One S to compliment my PS4Pro and my Switch pre-order (haven't owned a Nintendo console ever) but I do have my eyes on Scorpio. That being said, I'm cynical that it'll be as great a leap above the Pro as I've seen some claim and with Xbox lagging far behind in sales and exclusive software I hope they start to secure some great properties and maybe let their teams diversify a bit. Shit, Sony's studios still pump out sequel after sequel but between those we see some awesome new IPs and their securing of major Japanese games helps that diversity.
I'm excited to finally play Gears 4 and Halo 5. Shit, I even missed out on Sunset Overdrive (despite buying it). I've got some great stuff to play, I'm sure but thinking how long these consoles have been developed for, its quite pitiful compared to Sony. I'm kind of on the fence about this because I don't like the idea of having to own so many consoles to play everything but if all three of these companies succeed and pump out great - or at least interesting - content then its a massive win for all of us.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Well, I think Destiny 2, Red Dead Redemption 2, The Last of Us Part 2, God of War and to some extent GT Sport (in Europe) will go a long way in helping them achieve that. I disagree that 20 good games are needed since those games I mentioned will be putting in most of the work over the next couple of years. Add in a price cut and I think they're at least set for the next 20-30m console sales.
Absolutely. The black Friday deals in Germany were 196 euros for slim/uncharted.
Literally every second person at media markt had one in their hands. I even saw a guy buying 3
miller.skippins
Banned
didn't they announced they shipped 60M during CES?
I don't even know what will Sony elect to bundle, there is too much choice.
Destiny 2, RDR2, "back to roots" COD and new SW Battlefront [and relaunch of Assassins Creed, but that will most likely land with MS].
Judging at the way Sony promoted it's unveil, RDR2 bundle is a lock.
miller.skippins
Banned
I don't even know what will Sony elect to bundle, there is too much choice.
Destiny 2, RDR2, "back to roots" COD and new SW Battlefront [and relaunch of Assassins Creed, but that will most likely land with MS].
Judging at the way Sony promoted it's unveil, RDR2 bundle is a lock.
No, the last announcement was Sony's third quarter fiscal year 2016 report
Acquiescence
Member
Parappa the Rapper Remastered will ensure worldwide numbers reach 75 million when it comes out, and after that, the long-awaited return of PlayStation's most iconic and adored platforming mascot will further push units to the big One-Oh-Oh.
Yep, good ol' Knack's gonna be putting in the work.
Throwing personal insults because i rightfully questioned the sales of a Sony game? Seems like you're a huge fanboy that just takes things at face value.
Do you own a device that isn't sony at all? Get your head out your ass.
FYI: I own all current gen consoles with the PS4 being my main.
100M can only be achieved if Studios Japan makes Knack 3: Knackvengeance.
Their internal guidance is 60M shipped by April 1. We will know if they managed to hit that on the next financial report.
Their internal guidance is 60M shipped by April 1. We will know if they managed to hit that on the next financial report.
miller.skippins
Banned
100M can only be achieved if Studios Japan makes Knack 3: Knackvengeance.
Their internal guidance is 60M shipped by April 1. We will know if they managed to hit that on the next financial report.
I mean...the first 2 months of 2017...heck even march seems packed......is really the PS4 whipping its dick at everyone else......almost every week we see a new PS4 exclusive (be it 1st party of 3rd) getting reasonable high scores and critical acclaim....
From RE7 VR (only on PSVR now), to NiOh to Horizon........we have Nier Automata coming up and Persona 5....and i think i am missing out something else...
All these trumpeting will hopefully create awareness and translate to sales.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
Yeah... Sony knows not to rest on its laurels...
Meanwhile we don't even get PS1 BC.
Meanwhile we don't even get PS1 BC.
Nightengale
Member
That isn't Sony resting on its laurels, that is Sony giving zero fucks.
The BC team at Sony is the team working on the 3 remasters announced at PSX. They're choosing to not work on a feature set for blanket BC but rather work on individual games lol.
McMoneyman
Member
I wish they would add PS1 support. PS4 would become close to being one of my favorite consoles then.
CEJames
Member
k SteveoTW. You're free to look at my profile, anytime.
SuperEpicMan
Banned
I feel this year might end up eclipsing 2011:
Resident Evil 7
Horizon Zero Dawn
Battlefront 2
Mass Effect Andromeda
Prey
Red Dead Redemption 2
GT Sport
"Back to roots" Call of Duty
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Nintendo Switch launch + all their games.
Xbox Scorpio + whatever secret games they have in store
Likely:
Destiny 2
Assassins Creed semi-reboot
New Batman game (or other DC character)
I also suspect we might get a new Fallout game.
Resident Evil 7
Horizon Zero Dawn
Battlefront 2
Mass Effect Andromeda
Prey
Red Dead Redemption 2
GT Sport
"Back to roots" Call of Duty
Uncharted Lost Legacy
Nintendo Switch launch + all their games.
Xbox Scorpio + whatever secret games they have in store
Likely:
Destiny 2
Assassins Creed semi-reboot
New Batman game (or other DC character)
I also suspect we might get a new Fallout game.
miller.skippins
Banned
don't worry pal.........most human got 2 kidneys...you know what to do.
CEJames
Member
I don't want to look at your profile. Why is my xbox gamertag such a big issue to you?
Triggerhappytel
Member
C'mon dude; that's enough. You don't know his comment was motivated by fanboyism so there's no need to double-down on it.
StereoVsn
Member
I am curious why people keep saying next 50 million. Sony is going to be over 70 million by the end of this year, maybe 75 million shipped. Of course having the diverse IP list helps quite a bit but most of the folks on the sideline are mainly waiting for price drops at this point.
If PS4 can get to $199 (and it can), it will be a huge hit come BF and Christmas. While it did hit under $220 past Holiday season you can't underestimate the psychological draw of under $200 console (and whatever the equivalents are in Europe or other markets). They do need to correct pricing for Canada and Mexico though.
If PS4 can get to $199 (and it can), it will be a huge hit come BF and Christmas. While it did hit under $220 past Holiday season you can't underestimate the psychological draw of under $200 console (and whatever the equivalents are in Europe or other markets). They do need to correct pricing for Canada and Mexico though.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
50 mil is definitely not something they can achieve in three years, when I'm pretty sure they'll be launching the PS5. But I'll also give them the year after the launch too, which seems a lot more feasible. To be honest I think there's a pretty big correlation between sub $200 and 100 million, but that's just me.
InsaneTiger
Member
They've managed 50+ million sales without BC. I don't think people are buying with the hope of BC.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Completely disagree. The PS4 has tons of momentum at the moment, will probably be getting a permanent price drop towards the end of the year (maybe even with a game bundled) and is coming off the highest number of hardware sold in a single year ever for PlayStation. At this rate if it sells ~14 million per year for the next three years it'll breach 100 million, and with big software on the way like God of War, Spider-Man, Death Stranding and TLoU2 that is absolutely achievable. Wouldn't be surprised if it breaks that record again for most hardware sold in a year, maybe in 2018.
The second 50 million is an easy sell. Horizon has nothing to do with it. Its called a $99 digital only PS4. We haven't seen a properly price reduced console since the PS2 and apparently everyone has forgotten how many units a console sells when it hits a true mass market price. The floor for the PS4 is the PS2's 155 million units.
NoHeDidn't
Member
Sony is already doing to Xbone what it did against the 360 in the later years and that is "blot out the sun" except with options no arrows.
I don't think so.
The PS4 is too much of a global console for Sony to release one entirely reliant on internet.
The returns on that kind of hardware wouldn't be enough to be viable.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah i can see them hitting that 100mil and even beyond.
Their line up right now looks so good. People just need to remember first 3 years of a new Sony console is rough first party wise, but after that the train leaves the station and never stops.
Their line up right now looks so good. People just need to remember first 3 years of a new Sony console is rough first party wise, but after that the train leaves the station and never stops.
Mass_Pincup
Banned
Not really, a lot of people keep repeating that exclusives don't matter anymore.
LastMinuteHero
Member
Heh so much for horizon being the next big gaming disappointment huh?
Triggerhappytel
Member
Except a digital-only device where games are anything from 20-80GB is not a mass-market product.
But yeah; if they can ever get the PS4 Slim or release a super-slim version down to the $150/£150/150 range (or lower) sales will rocket. This happened a shit load in gen 6 (I'm pretty sure the Gamecube launched at £130 here) and was a huge part of why the PS2 sold so fucken much.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Crows went extinct thanks to Horizon. That is actually how the game starts Neogaf eats too many crows causing an imbalance in our eco system which eventually leads to the first robot crows being made.
MisterR
Member
LOL no. GT6 sold that much on the PS3 after the PS4 had already launched. The first GT on the super successful PS4 will sell like hotcakes, especially in Europe.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I... don't think I agree with this. I don't really remember the early days of the PS2, but the PS3 was on track for consistent first-party releases by 2008. Heck, maybe even 2007 if you count the big holiday releases like Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Warhawk and Ratchet. PS4 I'd say really started coming into its own in 2015, with stuff like Helldivers, Bloodborne, Tearaway, Rapture, Until Dawn, Uncharted Collection, etc.
Of course they matter; just probably not as much as big third-party releases.
We shifted now to "Gran Turismo won't sell" because reasons