Sato Koiji
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MMA Vs. boxing is at stake. I see MMA getting even more popular if Conor wins.
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Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor fight finalized for Aug. 26 - It's on!
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MMA Vs. boxing is at stake. I see MMA getting even more popular if Conor wins.
lightskintwin
Banned
MMA vs Boxing is NOT at stake. MMA nor boxing is going to get popular after this fight regardless who wins. Conor will definitely become more popular in the extremely very unlikely event he wins.
TunaMarshmallow
Member
I'm repeating myself here. But... Canelo is thicker, faster, punches harder, and doubtlessly has better boxing-oriented cardio than Conor. Oh, and he's also got the modest benefit of being one of the best boxers of his generation rather than, like, not a boxer. When Canelo fought Floyd, Canelo barely won an exchange and he lost all 12 rounds.
Canelo.
P4P top-5 boxer.
Barely won an exchange.
Lost. All. 12. Rounds.
Canelo.
In Conor's favor? Well, he's confident! And... the reach! Mayweather = pinhead. Conor is so confident. That swagger! The reach! Such smooth movement! The angles!!!!
Acting like Conor might win should be a banable offense. ;-)
Canelo.
P4P top-5 boxer.
Barely won an exchange.
Lost. All. 12. Rounds.
Canelo.
In Conor's favor? Well, he's confident! And... the reach! Mayweather = pinhead. Conor is so confident. That swagger! The reach! Such smooth movement! The angles!!!!
Acting like Conor might win should be a banable offense. ;-)
lightskintwin
Banned
Canelo is definitely not a P4P top 5 boxer, but your point still stands.
Edit: Well damn, I just looked it up and people have Canelo as a P4P top 5 boxer, so you're right. LOL
He would never be that high up on my list.
Syphon Filter
Member
Isn't he top 5? Especially if he beats ggg.
lightskintwin
Banned
Nah I looked and I see he's #5 on a couple of P4P lists including ESPN's.
He just wouldn't be that high up on my list.
TunaMarshmallow
Member
FWIW, he wouldn't be on my personal list, either. But, yeah, many folks do. (And BoxRec has him #1, as silly as that seems.)
Syphon Filter
Member
Who you got currently?
lightskintwin
Banned
Definitely Top 10, however i could see given his record why he would rank high for some people.
lightskintwin
Banned
I think the only thing that matters in P4P is who's number 1 which is Andre Ward, and then there's everybody else.
TunaMarshmallow
Member
I guess in a universe where instead of being not a boxer he's the best boxer?
BadAss2961
Member
I can't really justify putting anyone other than Ward and GGG over him. Crawford is getting there, but needs a big fight. Same with Loma... Chocolatito took an L (even though I remember thinking he won...) Then there's Thurman.
Canelo's top 5 at absolute worst.
Sato Koiji
Member
If Conor wins the UFC's next PPV with him as the headliner will be monstrous. It could even surpass the Conor/Nate 2 numbers. Conor will be more popular and all the fighters that are put on the same card he headlines will be more popular thus having bigger chances to create a star = MMA gets more popular.
Angelus Errare
Banned
They stop tracking punches landed
Gunslinger
Member
This fight will be so staged it's not even funny. It's just a cross promotion for Boxing and UFC. There is no way Mayweathers streak will be allowed to be broken by someone who is not even a boxer.
lightskintwin
Banned
Yeah, it just depends on your criteria on how you rank fighters for your personal P4P lists. It's not an exact science. Off his record alone, I could see an argument why he's a top 5 P4P fighter. However for me, I have seen little growth from Canelo since the Mayweather fight and I just wasn't impressed with that performance at all.
I think Canelo is pretty good fighter who lacks any type of dynamism and is just solid all around. It's why I think Golovkin beats him.
Syphon Filter
Member
What about Spence?
BadAss2961
Member
He just looks corny doing some of his routines. People have been making fun of Conor and his movement coach at least since Diaz 1.
It's working for him now since he's been winning... But If the day comes where he loses back to back fights, people will start questioning his training and suggest he get a better team.
After Floyd said he is going to make $300M+ on this one fight I feel like....
Conor winning a split decision which leads to be a rematch and then eventually a trilogy could happen.
Hence making Floyd a billionaire.
A Mayweather match that goes to decision will be the most boring shit in the world. I have no idea why would people sign up for another, doubt they would buy into the hype again.
And Conor has sub-zero chance of winning on decision.
I think if he beats GGG he has to be put in the top 5 p4p.
Silent Hill
Banned
Ive been saying the same thing. They are probably the best of friends.
BadAss2961
Member
Forgot about Spence. But yeah, he's a big fight away from making his case too.
Sorry Ward fans, but the winner of Canelo vs GGG will definitely move to #1, especially if it's decisive. This fight is too big an attraction... Spence would leap right behind them next to Ward by beating Thurman.
lightskintwin
Banned
Without question.
I don't think either one will move to #1, nor should they.
Syphon Filter
Member
I feel spence is a bit behind crawford, both seem like they are the future p4p fighters.
BadAss2961
Member
The GGG hype will be off the charts if he stops Canelo. Canelo will be a god if he stops GGG. Fair to Ward or not, they're taking that #1.
Agreed. Things will start to settle when Crawford moves up.
lightskintwin
Banned
You're right, I can definitely see people allow the hype of that to cloud their judgement. Ward stopping Kovalev is more impressive than either one stopping each other. Although Canelo stopping Golovkin would be very close.
I wouldn't even mind if Canelo got his time to shine on top for doing that.
perineumlick
Member
Canelo would beat the shit outta Conor, and Floyd basically shut him out. Yeah, I don't get it either.
Syphon Filter
Member
You are delusional, floyd is in amazing shape go check him out.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I see Conor being gassed by round 4
Obliterator
Member
Nah the idea of Conor gassing early is really unlikely at this point imo. He is in insane shape.
I could see him gassing after Rd 6 but he will have a tank up until that point at least. Paulie said Conor's best rounds were 11 and 12
I could see him gassing after Rd 6 but he will have a tank up until that point at least. Paulie said Conor's best rounds were 11 and 12
hydragonwarrior
Member
I hear Conor's punching speed is so fast, what looks like one punch is really two.
JasonUresti
Member
Mayweather will take of that by humiliating Mcgregor, and then falling to his knees after the victory, praising God for just making him 100+ million dollars for beating up someone not good enough to be a sparring partner.
lightskintwin
Banned
LOL Sounds about right.
He already said he will beat Floyd by the 4th, he knows he won't last longer.
I'll be amazed if he makes it out of 6 rounds.
No amount of conditioning and swagger is going to change the fact that Conor has shit defense for boxing. This will be the easiest target Floyd's had since Arturo Gatti.
Conor does have better physical attributes than Arturo had so that might keep him alive for a little longer if he plays his cards right.
I think Floyd's going to throw more body shots than usual.
Conor does have better physical attributes than Arturo had so that might keep him alive for a little longer if he plays his cards right.
I think Floyd's going to throw more body shots than usual.
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Everyone has stated that, Conor's body type demands it. Everyone that has ever been in the ring with Conor has stated that he doesn't like body shots.
This is Virgil Hunter, Andre Ward's trainer
https://www.badlefthook.com/2017/7/21/16008198/hunter-mcgregor-suffers-from-the-fighters-curse
Agent_Carnage
Member
Its just going to be a repeat of the Paccio fight but more of a chance that Mayweather will win by KO...
Im not going to waste money on this.
I do not think Conor wins this at all. His confidence will really help him but it is unlikely he is able to land a KO. He has no choice but to KO Floyd and it needs to be pretty early on if he is going to win.
Cotto and DLH were the only ones to really bring it out of those fighters. All of those fighters except for Cotto were on their way out when they fought Floyd. Pacquaio certainly froze in the ring against Mayweather. Mosley looked a wreck in their fight. Nerves got Hatton too. Hatton was coked up to hell and back to deal with the pressure of that fight.
Exactly this.
Ugh....I cannot stand Mayweather and wish it was anyone else representing...
I have knots in my belly. MMA fans are going to be insufferable if the self appointed TBE loses to an amateur boxer.
Oh lawd there go the knots again.
CountAntonius
Member
For Conor to have any chance he just needs to not give a fuck and go balls out. He'll probably get countered and KO'd but that's the only shot he has. He won't win a round otherwise. I'd rather have an entertaining 3 rounds then 12 rounds of Floyd dominating.
hydragonwarrior
Member
It would sound better if it was phrased: "The fate of two UNIVERSES are at stake!" Why am I not promoting this event?!?!
But if Conor's aware that Floydd will be aiming for his body I think his trainer (if he's competent) will be telling him some strats to deal with it. Conor in public needs to go: "If Mayweather is plannin' an infight, he's gonna see somethin' special"
The drama that comes with Conor winning outweighs any smug MMA nonsense. I am a boxing fan and have never watched MMA in my life. I want Conor to win this. How can anyone not want that sort of drama?