He already looked like shitty Seifer clone in 13, but this is complete garbage with some Organization XIII dude hair from KH.
HAHAHAHA holy shit
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HAHAHAHA holy shit
The weird thing is that, where virtually every other artist in the industry got more complex as time went on, Kaneko's design for Aleph became much simpler years later.
The level of detail isn't the issue, per se, I was hoping that she'd at least resemble the render while in-game. Granted, that may be a bad shot.
Here are a few more as links where she's more grimy:
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_tomb_raider-15957-1912_0010.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_tomb_raider-15957-1912_0011.jpg
http://images.gamersyde.com/image_tomb_raider-15957-1912_0012.jpg
For comparison, here is her official concept art released at the same time:
http://media1.gameinformer.com/images/site/pages/tr/bg.jpg
The other image is a render by VisualWorks.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Kojima's art is a tough act to follow but jeez.
Oh my god, this was the biggest downgrade in terms of redesigns that I've encountered in a long while. It's one thing if they decided to go with a more anime influenced look but kept up the tone and quality. They practically shot straight into amateur, fanart territory instead.
This definitely clears things up. In general, the in-game model definitely seems to go along with the concept art in your post there, and does look much better than in those screens than in the previous shot. She was definitely softened up in the face a bit, from the render to concept art, but I still dig.
I just don't know how I should feel about this. I mean, to take Soma from being one of the baddest looking motherfuckers to the worst looking goofball in animu history has to deserve some kind of award. Even the fur is gone.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Playing Revelaitons right now, and I can't stand the new Jill design. From:
to:
What happened? =(
because of the experiments on her and the T-Virus that remained in her, side effect was a discolorization of hair folicles
endresults
Member
Plump-faced Jill was best Jill.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
Granted the original design was not that good either, but this is just stupid.
Man, I've been bashing Bioware a lot lately.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
almost exactly the same,
the hair and eyes and narrowed a tad made people think they were completely different.
bigmakattack
Banned
Still think this was a major improvement, just for hilarity's sake. Still gotta finish the game for the PSP.Don't think anyone posted this yet.
Persona 2: Innocent Sin's Hitler:
Persona 2: Innocent Sin's Hitler... on PSP:
He's fucking awesome on the PSP. Well... as awesome as one of history's least awesome people gets, but I digress!
I'd say it's an improvement IMO, but that's not my opinion. It is fact.
Also, I really, really dislike the Zelda from Skyward Sword. Tried to make her too cute.
TP:
Sapphire Dreams
Member
star ocean 2 ps1
star ocean 2 psp
ugh
It is more of a change in era of character design than anything else really.
to
They even changed his name to Leon. lolwat
For Squall, the more accurate of exqamples would be these, I think:
One's a cg render, and the other is hand-drawn, but I feel as if it does the point well enough. I've always been one to admit that I thought Squall looked badass in VIII, Dissidia-era Nomura just destroys even that.
RedAssedApe
Banned
He already looked like shitty Seifer clone in 13, but this is complete garbage with some Organization XIII dude hair from KH.
I have no issues with Snow. This looks better than his outfit with the beanie even if his hair does resemble that of a chocobo.
Still think this was a major improvement, just for hilarity's sake. Still gotta finish the game for the PSP.
Also, I really, really dislike the Zelda from Skyward Sword. Tried to make her too cute.
TP:SS:
Really? SS Zelda is one of my favourite Nintendo designs ever. Looks AMAZING in-game.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Ahh, I always thought game engine has some "effect" on artstyle/design of characters and such in games.
The new, young Lara is pretty good even if I'm a total fan of her classic design (In the modern games were they shrunk her breasts a bit from the total ridiculousness - so she went from wank fantasy to a more modest character instead of the other way around like other characters in the thread. Very cool.). Just a pure iconic bad ass adventuring design spiced with sexy without being really masturbatory or going into fetish camp (Edit: Eg. zero suit Samus to compare with another strong female character). Plus non-high heel boots.
Why the random comparison to TP? They're completely different characters for completely different tones. I might as well say that they tried to make TP Zelda to grimdark (which tbh I think they tried for the whole game, even if they nailed a lot of the actual design). I love the SS design.
SiegfriedFM
Member
While I generally love Ayami Kojima's artwork, her work on Aria was rather horrible.
She recovered splendidly for Harmony of Despair though:
And then she went and recovered new Soma. This is much better than "random pimp coat and bellbottoms" Soma.
She recovered splendidly for Harmony of Despair though:
And then she went and recovered new Soma. This is much better than "random pimp coat and bellbottoms" Soma.
ohnoudidn't.
For Squall, the more accurate of exqamples would be these, I think:
One's a cg render, and the other is hand-drawn, but I feel as if it does the point well enough. I've always been one to admit that I thought Squall looked badass in VIII, Dissidia-era Nomura just destroys even that.
It's kind of funny to see how dang small Squall's torso is.
dragonlife
Member
I knew this would be brought up as soon as I entered the thread. Totally disagree. RE5 Chris is fucking eye candy, man. UPGRADE.Anyway : Chris Redfield
At least it's not as bad as Shadow Dragon's art. Now that got to me.Even though there is barely any consistency in the FE universe, I find these new character designs to be a huuuuuge step down from previous ones.
Going from this
to this
really gets to me.
Man, I still wish they had kept this design. He looks so damn attractive; plus, he doesn't look like another boring White male.its the same one.
I still don't get the dumb "boy band member" comments in regards to this design. He looks cool (to me).
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Dante.. Dante... Dante.... Dante... Dante....
Dante
I don't see much meaningful difference.
If you want to compare the artwork... then this is the original FF8 design:
Once again, I don't see much meaningful difference! FF8 art looks like Dissidia art. FF8 3D looks like Dissidia 3D.
a lot of japanese games have suffered from the injection of shit that is current anime. seems like everything is simple kid friendly, over the top stupid or designed for perverts/lonely men.
yup. im surprised how well the gamecube model holds up. imo capcom ruined jill in RE5 the model is ugly and boring. I like HGH chris though stupidly large arms and all.
i thought she fit her age far better this time around. a lot of japanese games suffer from stuffing kids into adult roles and it comes off feeling stupid. i think nintendo did it right.
Not really a bad thing, but here is the same artist redrawing the same character eight years apart.
just remembered how vastly improved the art in SMT I & II from SNES to PS1!
Zoramon089
Banned
Also, I really, really dislike the Zelda from Skyward Sword. Tried to make her too cute.
TP:SS:
It's not like they're the same person
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Wow.
Some people actually prefer the new DmC Dante design and the new pokemon Gold designs to the old ones?
It really is true that someone, somewhere, is always waiting in the shadows to defend the seemingly indefensible...
Bra-fucking-vo.
Some people actually prefer the new DmC Dante design and the new pokemon Gold designs to the old ones?
It really is true that someone, somewhere, is always waiting in the shadows to defend the seemingly indefensible...
Bra-fucking-vo.
star ocean 2 ps1
star ocean 2 psp
ugh
At least try to find good examples. This is all very small and it's not a huge downgrade (a very minor one, actually).
In this pic Squall looks like a male with a clear brow, good old cheekbones and the adams apple. All of which are missing from Dissidia.
The old Gold design is garbage. The new one is sleeker, simpler and cleaner.
RadioHeadAche
Member
The only thing that bothers me about Dissidia Squall is that ridiculous leg-cape. Otherwise, he looks pretty identical to the original.
Also, I like Kingdom Hearts Cloud.
Also, I like Kingdom Hearts Cloud.
Castor Krieg
Banned
This. The first one has very distinct 90s way of drawing. See Records of Lodoss War, Magic Knight Rayearth, etc. for other examples.
I vastly prefer the style in the 90s.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
star ocean 2 ps1
star ocean 2 psp
ugh
I dunno, I don't think this one's really that bad. Sure, the update is cutesier, but I think it's more put together. The shading/shadows on the original looks cheesy.
I just don't understand why they have to opt for the worst qualities of anime. Nothing will replace those classic Castlevania paintings, but it could have still gone anime-style and looked great. Instead they gave us that awfulness. Like you said, they really need to realize that their audience doesn't solely consist of Naruto worshiping kids and creepy, stunted older men.
A Huge Battleship
Member
I could probably fill an entire thread with Dynasty Warriors stuff, but I'll settle for:
GhostWriter24
Member
I win.
IdreamofHIME
Member
Poor Jo, they even gave her an American accent
At least they made her look better for the HD version of PD
Not sure what happened to Elena's nose from Uncharted 2 to 3. Not really a big deal, but kinda weird.
For me it was her eyes in UC3, they seem kinda narrow...like she's always squinting.
Jak:
I know what you mean, nvm the thought "more badass is more USA" really ruined that cover. Pal got the serious-but-not-angry-sort-of-elegant-one.
In other news...
THIS IS HOW YOU SCREW IT UP
I win.
God, wow. It's like he got dressed by jumping into whatever the Ivalice version of a dumpster is.
She actually underwent a significant character change during development that I really didn't agree with:
They changed her to look a bit more mature and and a better example of a "strong female", which I understand but it was (and still is) harder for me to accept given how familiar and welcome the original design was. It doesn't jive with her cartoony hairdo:
I'm starting to warm up to the new Dante honestly. I never thought it was completely horrible and it's not like Dante has ever been anything more than what an emo-kid would think is awesome.
This piece of concept art really won me over (mock PS3 cover)
