BibiMaghoo
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moar Hitman please.
And Sleepy Dogs. Yet to play TR.
And Sleepy Dogs. Yet to play TR.
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Square Enix: Tomb Raider, Sleeping Dogs, & Hitman all broke even, sequels implied
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WEI SHEN MOTHERFUCKER
WHO YOU?!
Absolutely loved Sleeping Dogs, I kept forgetting I was a cop though hahaha. My Wei Shen was a full on goon. Sun On Yee till I die!
Most fun I've had with an open world game since fucking GTA III.
I think one nice thing here is that it serves as a useful example that not everything that misses expectations actually lost money, but that expectations were just high because they wanted to make a lot of profit after investing that much.
I disagree. The shooting was improved, yes, but they didn't do anything with it; it was still very monotonous wave combat with little variation. The platforming, puzzles, and exploration (secrets) were all incredibly dumbed down.
Crystal Dynamics hasn't been good at updating Tomb Raider in the past, but casting aside everything Tomb Raider was known for to make it yet another shooter isn't the answer. A next gen Tomb Raider should be about exploring, raiding tombs, platforming, solving puzzles; the last game was a shooter with very very shallow elements of the things that made Tomb Raider unique. Shooters can be fun, yes, but Tomb Raider should be something more.
I've watched A LOT of Korean movies and TV shows (TV shows in general show a very different side to South Korea than movies IMO) So I can imagine a lot of situations that could be interesting.
I disagree with Seoul being a generic city, from what I've seen, it has an interesting culture and has a lot of potential IMO. But in the end the most important aspect of a city is how the developers design the city, story and the characters, so generic or not, it's really about perspective.
Cool, I didn't know he had Korean parents, quick Google search shows a Korean name, so seems like your right.
Oh yes! Really want to see another Sleepy Dogs. Just give me another city, Wei Shen and let me run free. Fuck, that game is so disgustingly fun.
Tomb Raider was inevitably getting a sequel. If they refined it and focused more on the tomb gameplay from the first (ie. lean heavily into puzzles and away from the combat) then it could be a big improvement. It wasn't great but it was totally a fine foundation to build on.
Tomb Raider was inevitably getting a sequel. If they refined it and focused more on the tomb gameplay from the first (ie. lean heavily into puzzles and away from the combat) then it could be a big improvement. It wasn't great but it was totally a fine foundation to build on.
statham
Member
They are:
don't know what I'm looking at, but I like it.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Yes. I loved Sleeping Dogs. Amazing game, amazing graphics, amazing story.
Yeah, and it should probably serve us well as a reminder in the future when discussion bombas and whatnot.
KillerMan91
Member
So why did they do huge losses during last quarter? FFXIV costing that much?
Winterfang
Banned
Great news.
Flightmare
Member
All I care about
I think a investor . while not exactly jumping for joy would rather hear that their money is made back instead of : Hey guys .we just threw xxx million bucks down the crapper.
i agree with all your points.
About the fact that wei can do free crime ,maim and kill people during gameplay while still being a cop might be unrealistic but i think it is better to see it as an acceptable break from reality as it ad to the fun of the game.
Yes if they wanted to they could try the realistic aproach : wei never kills people, doesn't do half the crazy stuff he pulls off in this game and plays by the rules .
but in that case you run the risk of making your game boring like L.A Noire (ymmv) but it allways felt weird because the makers went to all that trouble to make a very realistic copy of Los Angeles (not sure if that was the name of the city)
yet there was almost no incentive to explore the city as there was almost nothing you really could do in it because you where an honest cop so no gunning down or driving over civilians.
A quote from zero punctuation sums it up pretty well: put a player in a big world crafted with lots of detail options and given total freedom to do as they please ,the first thing most players do is think of how to fuck this place up.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
Sleeping Dogs = fuck yes.
Tomb Raider = if they can take the mechanics, production values and more mature 'Batman Begins' Lara that they have, and mix it with even more Metroidvania, and more importantly for TR more tombs and better platforming, I think I could get excited for a sequel.
Hitman = lock that shit away and throw away the key after Absolution. Unless they can seriously go back to the series roots and make a game that is even half as good as Blood Money, I don't want to be part of it.
Tomb Raider = if they can take the mechanics, production values and more mature 'Batman Begins' Lara that they have, and mix it with even more Metroidvania, and more importantly for TR more tombs and better platforming, I think I could get excited for a sequel.
Hitman = lock that shit away and throw away the key after Absolution. Unless they can seriously go back to the series roots and make a game that is even half as good as Blood Money, I don't want to be part of it.
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NinjaFridge
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Haven't played Tomb Raider
Enjoyed Sleeping Dogs even though I thought it had problems. Hopefully they can build and improve it with the sequel
Hitman Absolution was good enough but I can understand why fans didn't like it. The disguise system sucked and didn't really work and the stealth needed work all round.
Enjoyed Sleeping Dogs even though I thought it had problems. Hopefully they can build and improve it with the sequel
Hitman Absolution was good enough but I can understand why fans didn't like it. The disguise system sucked and didn't really work and the stealth needed work all round.
WoolyNinja
Member
Just finished Tomb Raider and personally thought it was one of the best games of the generation. I think it actually outdoes Uncharted 2/3 in a lot of respects. Not saying its the better game, but things like upgrading weapons, upgrading skills, the combat, and the platforming were all done better in Tomb Raider in my opinion. Can't wait for the sequel if this is true!
Its better in all areas compared to UC3, and gameplay wise it is better than UC2
shinobi602
Member
Day one for a Tomb Raider sequel. I loved this one.
sometimes i game
Member
Wasn't Tomb Raider at the top of every damn chart for weeks and weeks? Was SE projecting every console owner would buy it?
I loved TR, thought it was a gorgeous joy ride and I'd love a sequel, now. Multiplayer was blah though.
I loved TR, thought it was a gorgeous joy ride and I'd love a sequel, now. Multiplayer was blah though.
Pyramid head
Banned
I loved Tomb Raider and Sleeping Dogs. I'm giving Hitman: Absolution another shot now and it's....just..... It's a Splinter Cell game.
Samir Sedlar
Member
IO has given us a teaser about H6.
VGX reveal/teaser maybe ?!
oh god i hope breaking even doesn't encourage them to continue to move even further into destroying Hitman and Tomb Raider... but who am i kidding, next TR will probably be on rails and you just press X for the occasional execution. Out Ryse the Ryse! Next Hitman will be simplified, two paths to assassinate, pick a path and have at it!
Sleeping Dogs 2 I will anticipate, since it's one of the few good things to come out of SE published games the past few years
Sleeping Dogs 2 I will anticipate, since it's one of the few good things to come out of SE published games the past few years
Nick@IO has said that hardcore Hitman fans will be happy with the next installment in the Hitman series, so I doubt they will be dumbening it down.
But we will just have to wait and see.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
That's interesting, in western Canada it looks like Prince Rupert, Kamloops, FortMac, and Edmonton. Not sure what they have in common... I'd say oil if not for Kam but it has copper mines so maybe just resources in general. Not much in PR before either.. Only ever knew it for salmon fishing vacations. But they're trying to put in pipelines and refineries from FortMac out to PR to ship to China.
Or the locations are just random and I'm only looking into it because I'm from there.
Sleeping Dogs is one of the best games I've played this generation and I really hope it finds more success in the future.
Or the locations are just random and I'm only looking into it because I'm from there.
Yeah actually I made a post about that during the summer I think... I mostly skipped this entire generation until just this year, and only things I've really played from SE in the last decade were FF XI and XII. And, in coming back to the PS3 this year and going through S-E's list of published games (mostly from Eidos), it really struck me that the developer I treasured for Japanese fantasy RPGs was now more relevant to me as a publisher of western open-city crime action. Hitman, Deus Ex, Kane & Lynch 2 (distributor), and obviously Sleeping Dogs. I think the sentence that kept popping into my head that really wanted me to comment on it was that in a modern Square Enix game I felt like I was more likely to go shoot up criminals in a Chinese city than adventure after crystals on a Chocobo.
Sleeping Dogs is one of the best games I've played this generation and I really hope it finds more success in the future.
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