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[R3TRODYCE]

Sd2!

 

[Barack Lesnar]

"[E]ven though development expenses were covered, these titles did not sufficiently contribute to profit."

As in the games covered development expenses and had some contribution to profit, but not a large enough one relative to their expectations.

Ohh derp

 

[kunonabi]

Tomb Raider Reboot, Hitman: Absolution and Sleeping Dogs were all bad games, personally I'd rather if they put the money on older IPs like LoK or something else.

why? so they can screw that up too?

 

[10k]

Rock hard for Sleeping Dogs 2.

You mean....Comatose Dogs

 

[Drakeon]

No one is happier to hear about Sleepy Dogs 2 then Vinny. This means more Vinny Sleeping Dogs quick looks too!

 

[BadAss2961]

Can't wait for those next-gen pork buns.

 

[Grisby]

TR and SD were tons of fun. Hitman was alright too considering it was my first experience with the IP.

So yeah, I'll take one of each please.

 

[IceBreak]

Tomb Raider was awesome. Best bow mechanics in a video game all-time. I'm in for day one on the sequel (with hopefully a better story).

 

[Grayman]

I would be in for another sleeping dogs. I don't know if they would be smart to throw more money and mainstreaming at it though.

Day 1 for sleepy dawgs. Now:

Sleeping Dogs 2: No Wei Out

Pre-order today to receive exclusive "Food-on-a-Stick"™ DLC.

No Wei Out should be the real title.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

3.4m to break even is pretty depressing.

 

[cameron]

Depending on the direction they go, TR2 has the potential to be phenomenal. Like a U1 -> U2 leap. Or Gears -> Gears 2 leap. Sign me up.

Hitman Absolution wasn't for me. I didn't bother finishing it. Paid full price, too. Maybe another take from the new studio will grab my interest.

No comment on Sleeping Dogs. Haven't played it yet.

 

[Kyari]

"I believe that the transformation to online titles and the diversification of profit opporunities is the key."

Sounds like they'll probably attempt to shoe horn multiplayer into more games, and nickle and dime us over DLC?

 

[Black Door]

Can't wait for epic battle between Tricky I Shadow and Derrick to start anew


It'd be like Blue's ending in Saga Frontier

 

[NullPointer]

Sounds like they'll probably attempt to shoe horn multiplayer into more games, and nickle and dime us over DLC?

Or harness the infinite power of the cloud.

 

[reptilescorpio]

Annual Sleepy Dogs please.

 

[CosmicGroinPull]

Glad to see they're not going to waste all the money spent on reviving those franchises.

TR day one. Please maintain their budget, it's your biggest game.

You can cut all that CG for Hitman and no one would notice.

 

[Nirolak]

Sounds like they'll probably attempt to shoe horn multiplayer into more games, and nickle and dime us over DLC?

Well I'm sure that's part of it, but that also refers to their social games and MMOs.

 

[kayos90]

Not surprised about them breaking even. The sequels should definitely make a profit.

 

[antitrop]

Can't wait for epic battle between Tricky I Shadow and Derrick to start anew


It'd be like Blue's ending in Saga Frontier

Wasn't really all that epic of a battle, they were both pretty ridiculous about it on both extremes.
The end product wound up somewhere in the middle, a lot closer to Trick's way of seeing things, though.

Tricky spent more time posting Oprah GIFs than actually generating any text about the game outside of generic hype and Derrick was the bitter, vehemently disagreeable sourpuss he always was.

Sequel to that battle is not something I'm looking forward to at all.

 

[mullet2000]

I'm constantly shocked by how well Hitman absolution sold. I have no idea how they pulled that off.

I really hope they take a hard look at what made blood money so good for the next game. I'm half way through Absolution right now and...it's missing a lot. It's not bad but most of the changes aren't very good.

 

[RoboPlato]

Sleeping Dogs 2 in Shanghai on next gen needs to happen.

I'm currently playing Tomb Raider and I'm impressed so far. Game is way better than I expected.

Hitman Absolution was awful though, they should save the money for that one.

 

[M*A*S*H]

No comment on Sleeping Dogs. Haven't played it yet.

It's for your own good. This is what you're missing:

 

[Sblargh]

I am a happier person now that this thread exists.

Loved all 3 games. (yeah, even Hitman, come at me bros)

 

[Sheroking]

Maybe next time they can make a real Tomb Raider game.

Fifteen steps backwards? Pass.

 

[dreamcastmaster]

Sleeping Dogs 2, only if it's still in Hong Kong and gives us the other half of the city Kowloon and the MTR system and a busy harbor.

 

[Kaako]

I'll definitely be there day 1 for Sleeping Dogs 2.

 

[SloaneRisette]

I will be there immediately for a Sleeping Dogs 2.

Give me more crazy Chinese cop dramas. Yes please.

 

[Puppet Shadow]

No one else notice the last paragraph?

It is important to consider how to change business models in light of rigidity from the prospective of price, and I believe that the transformation to online titles and the diversification of profit opportunities is key.

Perhaps pubs are planning to move to digital only titles during the course of the next gen, which kinda puts the used games confusion / EA dropping its online pass into perspective.

 

[Sblargh]

Sleeping Dogs DLC has become such a guilty pleasure that I don't even mind if they abuse the concept for the next interation.

Just feed me more crazy scenarios where my favorite cop wastes 3 hours in another wacky adventure, squeenix.

I'll eat them all!

 

[whatsinaname]

Sleeping Dogs 2!

 

[Faithless]

Was surprised to enjoy Tomb Raider and am halfway through them Sleepy Dogs. Dogs is a real grower; you don't think you're gonna dig it, and then suddenly you really do. Story is great.

 

[artist]

Woo, all my Sleeping Dog bros are here. *fist me*

 

[Replicant]

Next time consider controlling the budget instead of blowing it up and then expecting the consumers to foot the bill or canceling future iterations.

 

[NullPointer]

Woo, all my Sleeping Dog bros are here. *fist me*

uhhh

Fifteen steps backwards? Pass.

May your favorite niche genre suffer the same fate.

 

[Crayons]

I did my job, I bought all of them once they reached $13.60, $12.49, and $10

Sleeping Dogs was the best one.

 

[Daingurse]

Was surprised to enjoy Tomb Raider and am halfway through them Sleepy Dogs. Dogs is a real grower; you don't think you're gonna dig it, and then suddenly you really do. Story is great.

Sleeping Dogs is probably my favorite open-world game of the gen. Traditionally I lose interest in these games and tend to go on endless rampages. But something about Sleeping Dogs was simply more compelling. Of course I did go on rampages but I finished the story. Can't quite put my finger on it, but man I really enjoyed the game. Just so much fun being a Sun On Yee goon.

 

[deim0s]

Sleeping Dogs 2 go! Most enjoyable open-world game I played this gen.

Tomb Raider enjoyed it as well, but not so much.

Hitman forget it.

 

[M*A*S*H]

Woo, all my Sleeping Dog bros are here. *fist me*

Not exactly the kind of pork bun I had in mind.

 

[Puppet Shadow]

uhhh

Haha, I didn't notice that the first time I read it.

Not exactly the kind of pork bun I had in mind.

You're killing me, lol

 

[ShroudOfFate]

Shit yeah! Sleepy Dogs and Tomb Raider both deserve sequels!

 

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

I'm down for sequels for all three titles.

Would love them all to hit next-gen. I only ask that Hitman have a stronger story, and Tomb Raider have a stronger climax. In terms of narrative.

But yeah, would love it!

 

[nemesun]

Give me Sleeping Dogs 2 and I'll be there day 1, just like I was with the first game. I'm a massive Yakuza fan and this game tickled all the right areas.

 

[Pachinko]

So they had return on investment but they knew the non-western half of the company shit the bed so bad on profitability that they had to sell twice as much to compensate ? That's what I got out of reading this.

Also, a big one- profits on retail games are no longer reliable. That note essentially says even good games that sell well do not continue to do so unless massive price drops occur and those same price drops destroy profits after a short period of time.

In the future , I expect less reliance on retail releases and more DLC or straight up digital copies of their games.

 

[LongDongJunon]

Budget accordingly, next time SE, and you might just make a profit.

SERIOUSLY.


...and please think reasonably about the necessity of multiplayer components in the next installment of any of these games.

 

[Daingurse]

SERIOUSLY.


...and please think reasonably about the necessity of multiplayer components in the next installment of any of these games.

Yes, please don't waste money on shit people didn't even ask for. I enjoyed the hell outta Tomb Raider and never at any point gave any fucks about multiplayer.

 

[Jintor]

I could Sleep some Dogs. Also vaguely interested in seeing where they go with Hitman from here.

 

[phierce]

Rock hard for Sleeping Dogs 2.

^ This...no crossing streams though!

 

[Save 'N Quit]

Tomb Raider was fun and I would happily wait for a sequel.

Just please get rid of the quick time events.

 

[EMT0]

Sleeping Dogs! BREATHE LIFE AGAIN! RWSIE FWOM YO GWAVE!

 

[sleepykyo]

I'm game for more Tomb Raider. Never has a game done a better job of being a low brow, horror film.

I actually just finished Sleeping Dogs (100%! Yay!) and wrote my thoughts down about it in a PM but here's as good as anywhere to post them and maybe get a discussion going:

I'm not sure triad actually means three gangs rather than the English term for Chinese organized crime. Wiki has it written as 3 Harmonies Society.