Metalmurphy
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It's called grasping for straws.
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EA Too!: Be extra nice and EA will pay you (participants may not disclose details)
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It's called grasping for straws.
maquiladora
Member
This is the whole reason there is a uproar over the MS legal document, we already know other companies do promotion on Youtube with disclosure...
The NDA is a huge deal.
Triggerhappytel
Member
It's bloody sad that this is so common in EA games that they have to explicitly state this.
anexanhume
Member
Or sarcasm?
Near 25k across all videos. Assuming the view cap is per user and not shared across all participants.
4 keys CPM
You and I both know you're making a ridiculously bold proclamation.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
yep, people need to stop lumping everything together
Lots of companies pay people/bloggers/youtubers
It is bad and you should question everything you read/watch
Then you have companies saying they can't disclose they even are in an arrangement and/or give negative feedback.
Isn't that that the nature of the NDA? DO NOT DISCLOSE How many of these promos have been missed because of the NDA. None of the others have been leaked or if it was leaked didn't get traction the MS promo is getting.
Well I mean if they were going to, you would think it would be in that nice bulleted list of instructions to people.
Marauder Shields
Member
Damn that CPM seems great. GG EA.
ramuh
Member
Lol. I saw that. So basically be extra careful with the networked uploaders you watch, as you never know that they may be influenced or not. This is all really shady imo. I would feel fine with like a simple disclosure in the beginning or end. To be barred from mentioning it sucks.
zephervack
Member
Not selling GAF to these companies really comes in handy when stuff like this surfaces, stay free GAF.
anexanhume
Member
What's that in peelz?
Fox_Mulder
Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Microsoft and EA best friends forever
CBOAT said an ass storm was coming?
That is one of the reasons why MEGA ULTRA MONSTER OTs are frowned upon.
Eventually the only way to find out will be to buy the game yourself then play it.
MAYBE THAT'S THEIR MASTER PLAN ALL ALONG
EA Exec#1: Fuck, looks like Microsoft nailed it again with that Xbone-Machinima thing. How can we up the ante now for this years WCotY award?
EA Exec#2: Not sure, Microsoft's cards are pretty good this time with those Xbone 180 and this.
EA Intern #1: Sir, If may I, (stops making the coffee). We also have those CPM thing like MS-Machinima remember? We can "purposely" leak it, and someone will post it on some forum and it will spread like wild fire. Not to mention we gave like 3x the amount of CPM compared to Microsoft's.
EA Exec#1: Holy shit you're right. Now get on with that coffee slave.
This only runs afoul of FTC rules if those videos don't disclose that it's a paid advertisement.
Elginer
Member
Alright, this cracked me the hell up.
Phrozenflame500
Member
Is the 10$ being paid out per 1000 views too? Cause that's quite a lot more than MS' deal.
Not really surprised this is going on though, I love how they don't forbid criticism but they do forbid talking about bugs.
Not really surprised this is going on though, I love how they don't forbid criticism but they do forbid talking about bugs.
Metalmurphy
Member
Except most people actually do those out of passion for the game and not monetary reasons...
It's becoming increasingly more difficult to tell.
This is rather old news when it comes to EA's marketing promotion, see: Examiner article surrounding BF4 reveal event giving exclusive commentary to CoD fans
Ronku has been around for a long time.
Ronku has been around for a long time.
Delusibeta
Banned
$10+ per thousand views. Woof.
Felix Lighter
Member
Based on the what was said by the Youtube content creators in the other thread, this is not uncommon. Like others have said, the NDA revealed about the Xbox One campaign was what made it particularly scummy.
It's good that this is all coming out if people aren't aware. That's what these companies are banking on even if they aren't forcing participants to keep silent but I do feel bad for the actual YouTube personalities who are looking to make a legitimate career and value their credibility. These campaigns and the swarms of content creators willing to accept them make building an audience based on your integrity a huge up hill battle.
It's good that this is all coming out if people aren't aware. That's what these companies are banking on even if they aren't forcing participants to keep silent but I do feel bad for the actual YouTube personalities who are looking to make a legitimate career and value their credibility. These campaigns and the swarms of content creators willing to accept them make building an audience based on your integrity a huge up hill battle.
True, but the big ones have attracted the wrong kind of publisher attention in the past. People have been offered resources (monetary, graphical, etc.) and guidelines for OTs, which is a pretty big no-no around here.
Tony, the Amazon video games deal guy, was publicly permabanned for trying to act as a middle-man and facilitate OT fuckery on the publishers' behalf.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
People have received free games from them before.
Actually, Ronku is old news. We've known about this service for some time.
https://ronku.ea.com/?r=site/login
Ad revenues from display and video ads are falling. What's next? Hitting "social influencers" and "custom content". It's not all bad though, just some of it.
https://ronku.ea.com/?r=site/login
Ad revenues from display and video ads are falling. What's next? Hitting "social influencers" and "custom content". It's not all bad though, just some of it.
ramuh
Member
Exactly. Without even a simple disclosure you cannot tell the blurred line between a paid endorsement or the real opinion of the uploader.
shinobi602
Member
That was a rumor then and the compensation amounts were never disclosed.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I can tell you as a medium-small YouTube channel, and on my own basic principle, I have never accepted an offer that tries to censor my personal thoughts on the game, and I've been offered such deals. I've been offered by more smaller teams to make videos on their game by me sending a copy early, but I just share my thoughts on it, and make 100% sure that I don't have to 'promote' it in an untrue or dishonest way, and simply if the game is good, I'll speak for it and push my love for it, if it's bad, I'll just say what I don't like about it.
I also know I'm not the only one who does this. The only higher profile YouTuber I know a bit personally is Cry or Cryaotic, and I know for a fact he doesn't accept offers of the sort either.
I bet some do, but sometimes it can be a bit easy to tell who's 'selling out' and who's not.
SpongeBob NoPants
Member
Am I the only person who doesn't have a clue what CPM means?
StoppedInTracks
Member
If you guys think only gaming publishers do stuff like this..................................
Every clothing, make up, jewelry, "life-style" company does the same exact thing. Every "December Haul", "Best of..." etc. video series by semi-famous to famous vloggers are paid and sponsored by corporations.
Every clothing, make up, jewelry, "life-style" company does the same exact thing. Every "December Haul", "Best of..." etc. video series by semi-famous to famous vloggers are paid and sponsored by corporations.
SEGAvangelist
Gold Member
Leak more documents, thank you!
You, because you are posting in this thread!
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah, some community managers definitely give out free games for OTs
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