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Clinton admits failure in stopping 9/11
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JohnTinker
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A defensive Bill Clinton makes me giggle heartily on the inside
PhlegmMaster
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It's so nice to read a Clinton interview. Regardless of the interview's content, it's amazing how intellectually superior he is to Bush. The guy actually knows what he's talking about, he has a clear, structured idea of what he wants to say and how he wants to say it. It's so refreshing.
Teknopathetic
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Thread backfire. AdamBot abort.
PhoenixDark
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I like that. He took some responsibility for what happened, but he also stood up for himself at the same time. That's something most politicians wouldn't be willing to do. And he didn't do it in a wishy washy way either. Clinton FTW
Callo Merlose
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Great read. He may have been a scumbag to his wife, but I always believed he was a good President. Awful husband, but great President.
siamesedreamer
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What a load of shit trying to pass the buck off on Bush with the USS Cole.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Teknopathetic said:
Indeed.
Callo Merlose
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I'm not gonna pretend that I've always held this view. While it was happening, I thought he was an all-around bad apple. After time, though, it become too heavy and immeasurable to weigh such things. He did his job. He's saying he failed, yes, but no moreso than a bodyguard that tried to fulfill his duty. It takes grownup or a man to admit failure. He made his mistake and accepts it. Bush doesn't even recognize that. I hate talking politics, honestly. I just try to see things from a base view, you know, judge accordinglily and righteously and whatnot. That said, based on his work, Clinton was/is a good man. I don't know enough about his personal life, so I can't say.pxleyes said:
I really, really hope the NBC or the BBC gets hold of this interview since I have a feeling that it'll be chopped up into bits. They'l probably edit all of Clinton's replies to be "..." when all the tough questions are asked.
If I was Clinton, I'd be pointing out that it was the GOP who was hounding him about "overextending American presence abroad" everytime Clinton tried to do something. When we initiated Operation Desert Fox with Tony Blair, who were the first people screaming about it? The GOP.
Go into Bosnia, who's bitching? The GOP. "It's not our war!"
Somalia? Guess who brought the pain once they saw that 14 American soldiers died. You got it! The GOP.
Jesus Christ, Clinton is a mental giant but I don't understand why he won't roll up his sleeves and play dirty. "Well, Mike, what I really want to know is why the GOP had absolutely no problem shouting me down everytime I tried to use the military to fight terrorism abroad, but have absolutely no problem trying to blame me for their mistakes now? Can't they take responsibility for their own actions? Let me tell you one thing-- after the way they came after me for being dishonest, I think it's sheer hypocrisy that they don't chase the President for his dishonesty. It shows who the real cowards are in this country. It's not the people trying to help American livse-- it's the people wearing little Elephant badges every November, preaching about American values while completely ignoring that their chosen leader doesn't exhibit a single one. He lies! Plain and simple. He lies... and then pins it on me. I learned my lesson, maybe it's time for Mr. Bush to learn his.
The fact of the matter is that 9/11 exposed the GOP as being just as much of a party of flip-floppers, and every 2 years they trot out some new piece of legislation that tries to scare Americans back into their palms. January rolls around and they care about us. Flip and flop. over and over. That's why I want to know, mike. Why does this happen, and why haven't the media called them out on it?"
as smart as Clinton is, I don't think there's a thing I've said that he hasn't already thought of, which means he completely handled Mike Wallace with kids gloves...
...which also means Wallace just got completely worked by a political pro. Clinton did such a good job of it that everyone with an internet connection is going to see how latched onto it that Fox has become, and automatically question whether or not Wallace has any bias.
Go into Bosnia, who's bitching? The GOP. "It's not our war!"
Somalia? Guess who brought the pain once they saw that 14 American soldiers died. You got it! The GOP.
Jesus Christ, Clinton is a mental giant but I don't understand why he won't roll up his sleeves and play dirty. "Well, Mike, what I really want to know is why the GOP had absolutely no problem shouting me down everytime I tried to use the military to fight terrorism abroad, but have absolutely no problem trying to blame me for their mistakes now? Can't they take responsibility for their own actions? Let me tell you one thing-- after the way they came after me for being dishonest, I think it's sheer hypocrisy that they don't chase the President for his dishonesty. It shows who the real cowards are in this country. It's not the people trying to help American livse-- it's the people wearing little Elephant badges every November, preaching about American values while completely ignoring that their chosen leader doesn't exhibit a single one. He lies! Plain and simple. He lies... and then pins it on me. I learned my lesson, maybe it's time for Mr. Bush to learn his.
The fact of the matter is that 9/11 exposed the GOP as being just as much of a party of flip-floppers, and every 2 years they trot out some new piece of legislation that tries to scare Americans back into their palms. January rolls around and they care about us. Flip and flop. over and over. That's why I want to know, mike. Why does this happen, and why haven't the media called them out on it?"
as smart as Clinton is, I don't think there's a thing I've said that he hasn't already thought of, which means he completely handled Mike Wallace with kids gloves...
...which also means Wallace just got completely worked by a political pro. Clinton did such a good job of it that everyone with an internet connection is going to see how latched onto it that Fox has become, and automatically question whether or not Wallace has any bias.
it didn't matter until 9/11.Flynn said:
I think Americans need to accept the fact that we ****ed up and got beat by bin Laden. He worked us over and out and won. And the thing is he's still working us. We haven't learned a mother****ing thing from that god damn attack.
But it's ok, because, you know, Clinton got a blowjob from a government clerk, and Bush is stupid. Should be a good election, right?
happyfunball
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So damn refreshing to read this.
I didn't like Clinton and I didn't vote for him but this interview just demonstrates what a superior human being he is to the complete trash that we have running our country now.
I didn't like Clinton and I didn't vote for him but this interview just demonstrates what a superior human being he is to the complete trash that we have running our country now.
PantherLotus
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Clinton is so eloquent and well spoken even transcripts of him basically becoming more agitated than we've seen since he was in office come off as well considered and well thought out ideas on why our country is failing.
Not sure what the intention of this thread was, but it certainly didn't make Bill Clinton look bad in any way. In fact, I'd say it does the opposite. Those are things that need to be seen by the American people for them to ever understand what the Rove party is doing to them.
Not sure what the intention of this thread was, but it certainly didn't make Bill Clinton look bad in any way. In fact, I'd say it does the opposite. Those are things that need to be seen by the American people for them to ever understand what the Rove party is doing to them.
Smiles and Cries
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I LOVE BILL!
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BILL C L I N T O N ! TON TON TON!
actually, now that I read the transcript.... forget everything I said. Clinton handled this perfectly. Good for him.
if i didn't know better i'd say it takes a little bit of brains to be a rhode's scholar at oxford after growing up as a poor piece of white trash in arkansas...:lol
if i didn't know better i'd say it takes a little bit of brains to be a rhode's scholar at oxford after growing up as a poor piece of white trash in arkansas...:lol
VictimOfGrief
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This still doesn't explain why Hillary has a penis and Bill has a Vagina......
I saw an interview with Clinton done by Keith Olberman tonight and it was like seeing an old girlfriend and remembering how amazingly hot and nice and funny she was. The guy sits there and thinks before answering a question. Compare that to the current ape running the country, who comes off like a drunk at a football game.
Teknopathetic said:
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After reading that rough transcript, all I can say is Clinton is all sorts of awesome. I like how Wallace tries to defend himself against Clinton's allegations of being biased; anyone that watches Wallace during broadcasts can quickly realize that he's on par with Jeff Gannon in terms of fairness. If anyone has links to a transcript of that Olbermann interview, I'm dying to see or read it.
siamesedreamer
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White Man said:
Yes, very convienent.......I think they were waiting for a personal letter of apology from Bin Laden himself before they actually believed it was him.
It was feet dragging of epic proportions plain and simple.
Incognito said:
Iraq, possibly yes. But, if Iran does become a nuclear problem, it won't be because Bush gave them the technology like how Clinton appeased Kim.
Its pretty obvious that Toxic's intent was a swipe at Bush for not admitting any mistakes.
Callo Merlose
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Well then, at least we can discern that he's human and not puppet.Flynn said:
siamesedreamer
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
That's fun!!!!!!!
That's fun!!!!!!!
I don't understand how it is a "thread backfire". Clinton admitted he is a failure, and I commended him on recognizing it.
Now if he can come clean on how inner cities were decimated during his term and NAFTA destroyed the job market in most of the midwest states ... then I will proclaim his greatness.
Now if he can come clean on how inner cities were decimated during his term and NAFTA destroyed the job market in most of the midwest states ... then I will proclaim his greatness.
EscapePlan
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i don't care what billy c did or didn't do. he puts cigars in women. i'd take a bullet for that man
Learn2read
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siamesedreamer said:
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He didn't so much pass "the buck" as pass a "20 page draft of a response and that could be enacted once confirmation that it was alQueda".
If he had passed "the buck" we know that BushCo would've taken, the greedy miserable basterds :lol :lol
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7720229726882976585&
Old, yeah, but for anyone who hasn't seen it, clinton's hour long conversation at the world economic forum 2006 back in january is good stuff.
I watch this after that matt lauer bush interview and don't know whether to laugh or cry at our political circumstances ;b
Old, yeah, but for anyone who hasn't seen it, clinton's hour long conversation at the world economic forum 2006 back in january is good stuff.
I watch this after that matt lauer bush interview and don't know whether to laugh or cry at our political circumstances ;b
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