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alr1ght · Sep 7, 2016

https://twitter.com/VG_Dave/status/773620695532273665

well then

Kyoufu · Sep 7, 2016

The Destiny 60fps dream is dead. I expected this but it's still a bummer. :/

hydrophilic attack · Sep 7, 2016

Welp, guess I won't be buying a PS4P when the next From Software PS4 game comes out then. Which means I'll never buy it

Zombie James · Sep 7, 2016

Makes sense.

edit: Shiiit, that means no 60fps Bloodborne.

Loudninja · Sep 7, 2016

Yeah it pretty much has too.

jmaine_ph · Sep 7, 2016

I feel like Destiny is the only PS4 MP game that isn't 60fps.

Ray Down · Sep 7, 2016

Should anyone be shocked at this?

Darryl M R · Sep 7, 2016

But muh Destiny

Pandora012 · Sep 7, 2016

I mean, did people really expect different?

Theorry · Sep 7, 2016

But probably runs smoother still. Locked 60fps for BF1 for example.

epaturun · Sep 7, 2016

Was confirmed on the stream by a Naughty Dog developer.

Single player frame rate is upto developers.

Alcotholic · Sep 7, 2016

I figured as much, otherwise their online communities would be fucked.

mullet2000 · Sep 7, 2016

Lame. Differences in framerate already happens regularly on PC and the world has kept turning.

Enter the Dragon Punch · Sep 7, 2016

no 60fps souls or bloodborne

BPK · Sep 7, 2016

alr1ght said:
https://twitter.com/VG_Dave/status/773620695532273665

well then

That was the only reason I would have upgraded (I play multiplayer games like BF1 exclusively) so I'll wait for ps5. This certainly made it easy for me to skip the pro.

JaggedSac · Sep 7, 2016

Pc communities are just fine.

BigEmil · Sep 7, 2016

Alcotholic said:
I figured as much, otherwise their online communities would be fucked.

Well online communities is fine on PC where people have many different ranges of FPS advantages

Obliterator · Sep 7, 2016

I'm assuming this isn't true for game with a variable framerate like Battlefield 1 though? They can lock it to 60fps on Pro even though the PS4 dips down to 45 because its 60fps some / most of the time

Broadbandito · Sep 7, 2016

What happens for something like bf1?

64 player conquest on ps4 40-60 fps variable

64 player conquest on pro closer to 60 fps lock?

This won't be allowed?

Durante · Sep 7, 2016

I wonder if this is actually true.

Technically it most likely isn't, it would be insane to try and replicate the exact same (e.g. GPU-related) frame drops.

Probably simply means no target framerate differences.

Trago · Sep 7, 2016

But what about single player games?

Tal Shiar Agent · Sep 7, 2016

Why the fuck does this thing even exist? Should have announced the fully backwards compatible PS5 in 2017 for a 2018 launch with a real, tangible upgrade.

eFKac · Sep 7, 2016

Very happy about this, as a PS4 Scrub owner.

Zombie James · Sep 7, 2016

Trago said:
But what about single player games?

Developers can use the extra power however they want. Up to them.

Hubble · Sep 7, 2016

Huh, kind of shocking. For MP gamers, why buy one?

hodgy100 · Sep 7, 2016

BPK said:
That was the only reason I would have upgraded (I play multiplayer games like BF1 exclusively) so I'll wait for ps5. This certainly made it easy for me to skip the pro.

well BF1 (and most MP games) run at 60fps anyway?

Creaking · Sep 7, 2016

Surely games with unintended framedrops can still be allowed to better hit their targets, like Battlefield 1, for instance?

WiiRevolution1 · Sep 7, 2016

Good news. I would never buy a online game that did that. SP games are one thing, but giving advatages to online games? Hell no.

DeathoftheEndless · Sep 7, 2016

I thought better resolutions and framerates was the whole point of the thing.

mysteriousmage09 · Sep 7, 2016

alr1ght said:
https://twitter.com/VG_Dave/status/773620695532273665

well then

There truly is no point to this system.

Gestault · Sep 7, 2016

I assume they mean target, not actually perform at. A title like GT Sport is built around 60 fps and a competitive environment, and unless they manage ideal performance on core PS4s, deliberately engineering potential shortcomings into the higher-end model seems...not so good.

Arrrammis · Sep 7, 2016

Welp, there goes any motivation I had to pick this up. Better luck next time Sony.

Mikey Jr. · Sep 7, 2016

Alcotholic said:
I figured as much, otherwise their online communities would be fucked.

Yeah, its not like people are running at 120fps on PC or anything.

Honestly, nothing gets fucked.

EL CUCO · Sep 7, 2016

Rip the dream.

So much for "PS4 pro is for the core gamer"...

SuperSah · Sep 7, 2016

As expected.

Still not buying - my usual PS4 will do me absolutely well.

Hedgey · Sep 7, 2016

Kyoufu said:
The Destiny 60fps dream is dead. I expected this but it's still a bummer. :/

Exactly what I was thinking... That's why I was gonna buy the thing, lol.

Hip Hop · Sep 7, 2016

Alcotholic said:
I figured as much, otherwise their online communities would be fucked.

This is not a thing

n0razi · Sep 7, 2016

Destiny 2 will probably be 720p @ 60fps on OG/Slim and 1080p (or 4K upscaled) @ 60fps on the Pro in that case

Kyoufu said:
The Destiny 60fps dream is dead. I expected this but it's still a bummer. :/

quest · Sep 7, 2016

So the pro is basically worthless then. MS is our last hope for a real premium console. Sony sent out a gimped machine.

Nephtes · Sep 7, 2016

The reason to own one of these things is shrinking by the minute...

Admiral Woofington · Sep 7, 2016

mysteriousmage09 said:
There truly is no point to this system.

oh there's a point if you have a 4k tv or really care about the few things here and there that will be improved in single player titles.

Zombie James · Sep 7, 2016

SG-17 said:
Why the fuck does this thing even exist? Should have announced the fully backwards compatible PS5 in 2017 for a 2018 launch with a real, tangible upgrade.

mysteriousmage09 said:
There truly is no point to this system.

Arramos said:
Welp, there goes any motivation I had to pick this up. Better luck next time Sony.

You guys don't play single-player games? Not that there's anything wrong with only playing multiplayer games, I'm just asking.

Clint Beastwood · Sep 7, 2016

"Here's this amazing new system and what it could possibly do but won't because it wouldn't be fair to others"

Great selling point.

Garrett 2U · Sep 7, 2016

This shouldn't be a thing.
Imagine if they did this on PC.

Wagram · Sep 7, 2016

Durante said:
I wonder if this is actually true.

Technically it most likely isn't, it would be insane to try and replicate the exact same (e.g. GPU-related) frame drops.

Probably simply means no target framerate differences.

I would assume this as well. Most likely a more consistent frame rate advantage than anything, but not a 30 fps vs 60 fps gap.

D1renegade · Sep 7, 2016

😂😂😂

So many crushed dreams

SOR5 · Sep 7, 2016

Makes sense

Collateral22 · Sep 7, 2016

So BF1 will still run at a jumpy 40ish fps?

cookie-monster · Sep 7, 2016

literally the only thing that would actually make it 'pro'

Zombie James · Sep 7, 2016

Crush. Kill. Destroy. said:
"Here's this amazing new system and what it could possibly do but won't because it wouldn't be fair to others"

Great selling point.

Would you rather segregate PS4 Pro and regular PS4 players?

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