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Gears of War Judgement |OT| Brothers from the beginning, Bros till the end
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Haven is a pretty solid map. It seems large but then everybody re spawns around that circular centre piece anyway.
I like the layout of the cover as it makes for some crazy in and out battles especially when you are outnumbered.
Two piece is noticeably weakened. I threw a couple of bankers out there and instead got blasted to bits.
I like the layout of the cover as it makes for some crazy in and out battles especially when you are outnumbered.
Two piece is noticeably weakened. I threw a couple of bankers out there and instead got blasted to bits.
Goodacre0081
Member
I really want the Alex Brand dlc character, I got some steam games if you are interested or we can work something out.
Me too. Hope she goes up for sale before too long. I have nothing to trade besides the Gears 1 download, so I doubt I'll be able to barter for a spare code before the skin hits the store.
Monkeylord
Member
So, what's the consensus on completing Insane w/wo declassifieds? Single player? Co-op 2 player? co-op as many players as you can muster?
Monkeylord
Member
I don't spose that'll get you too far on your way to achieving 3 Onyx Stars though, would it? Plus I imagine the timed/defend missions will be a MASSIVE pain in the arse.
Meh... can't hurt to try I guess.
A friend of mine is waiting for his copy to arrive and wants to play through in co-op. I wonder if the old trick of him playing Casual while I play Insane would be of any use?
Doesn't work on Judgement. Well.....it works in that he can still kill the enemies easier but you can only earn casual stars. If you want Onyx then everybody has to be on insane.
Monkeylord
Member
Apparently it works if the person playing on casual leaves the game at the point where you press up on the dpad to continue. By all accounts, once that happens the amount of stars earned are locked in, so if only the person on insane is left in the game then Onyx stars are awarded.
Not tried it, so don't know from experience.
Totally doable solo. It's easier than the toughest parts of Gears 2 - even with declassifieds.
Diablohead
Member
I suppose that is much better then people teaming up to score boost in gears 2 annex matches, I used to love party crashing those public games.
NullPointer
Member
I've gone through the campaign three times now and am letting it sit for a bit while I give Bioshock a spin. One thing about Judgment though keeps sticking in my craw.
Failing a checkpoint because one player dies isn't a good fit for this kind of gameplay, especially on legendary with so many one-hit kill possibilities from random grenades, tickers, and lambent wretches exploding amidst the chaos. Giving the remaining players a chance to complete the checkpoint ala classic Horde, or some kind of timed respawn would be less frustrating, and keep that frustration aimed at the game's challenge, and not the weakest link in the group.
Failing a checkpoint because one player dies isn't a good fit for this kind of gameplay, especially on legendary with so many one-hit kill possibilities from random grenades, tickers, and lambent wretches exploding amidst the chaos. Giving the remaining players a chance to complete the checkpoint ala classic Horde, or some kind of timed respawn would be less frustrating, and keep that frustration aimed at the game's challenge, and not the weakest link in the group.
Monkeylord
Member
I was looking at the Gears of War page on Facebook earlier, and the hatred this game is getting is immense!
Any word of them making the 4 over-run/survival maps available in TDM (and vice versa)?
I'm loving the game but it is really suffering from only having 4 (+1) maps to play on.
Also, any Aus players add me - gamertag is veeoneuhh. Can't promise I am any good but all the old crew I used to play Gears with aren't playing ; _ ;
I'm loving the game but it is really suffering from only having 4 (+1) maps to play on.
Also, any Aus players add me - gamertag is veeoneuhh. Can't promise I am any good but all the old crew I used to play Gears with aren't playing ; _ ;
NullPointer
Member
I'm not a big multiplayer guy, especially for Gears, but after giving the Judgment multiplayer modes a shot with bots, I'd go back to Gears 3 easily. Cog versus Cog is still the worst design decision I've heard in a very long time. Hell, even with bots, Gears 3 mutiplayer modes are a great time, and locust (and the original horde) are a big part of that for me.
I still love the shit out of the campaign though, and it sucks that something really new to the series is getting overshadowed by major missteps in multiplayer.
The Gears 3 multiplayer is hands down the better bargain compared to Judgment. Overrun is the only competent MP addition so far as I can see - it would supplant Beast mode in Gears 3 no problem. I played one Execution match in Gears 3 and that's all I needed to remind myself how much the MP in Judgment is watered down. I like the new maps, but I also miss the old maps and the other game mechanics that went with them.
The campaign is definitely getting overshadowed in all this. A lot of the complaints boiled down to cinematic flair, or the lack thereof. I thought we were getting tired of bombastic set pieces with little input required from the player? Not all of us, I guess.
Shit, the omission of vehicle sections and rail shooting sections in Judgment is a boon. I never finished Gears 2 on Insane becase of sections like that.
They just added an extra map last Tuesday called Haven, another one is up within the month.
When you are tired of Judgment you can play Gears 1 and Gears 3. I believe it's still pretty easy to find a community for those games. Gears 3 has TDM which would probably be more up your alley. The TDM in Judgment has lots of changes, no DBNO, Cog v. Cog, different weapon loadout, etc.
shiptoncraig
Neo Member
A big part of Gears multiplayer was the sound that the characters made when running/rolling and IIRC back in the Gears 1 days, people would pick characters like Baird who were almost silent for that reason. Now that the maps are more vertical, sound travels through solid objects and everybody's COG, it becomes impossible to gauge whether the noises you hear are friendly or not.
NullPointer
Member
The more I play it the more I see that Gears has the hands down best third person shooting/combat design out there.
Most encounters take place at pretty close quarters compared to most other shooters, so you get to appreciate the enemy animations, reactions and gibs up close, and feel the danger of getting rushed. There are a ton of weapons available with their own distinct active reload rhythms, playstyles and many with their own unique mechanics (mortar, torque bow and grenade sticks in particular). Toss in distinct executions per weapon, a wide movement and cover/handling/mantling/bouncing set, drop-in, drop-out co-op throughout and a nice collection of enemies and difficulties and you have something truly special.
And then of course Judgment adds challenges, more weapons (including auto turrets) and detailed scoring. There is enough gameplay depth here to get by purely on mechanics alone, and Judgment's design exemplifies that.
Yeah, I'm in love.
Diablohead
Member
yes, hearing humans and locust speech was a good pointer of being close to the enemy or not also.
I been playing gears 3 again today and even with peer 2 peer hosting the game is quite playable, double frags are better then the guy with better ping always winning.
But then I look at twich feeds of judgement and it looks like it should have been a high priced MP expansion pack, not many players would have bought it I guess but most of the judgement hud and menu looks like a tweaked gears 3 setup, it screams expansion to me. All those novelty player skins make it feel like gears of unreal tournament, which is both a good and bad thing...
I might buy and try this game once it's in a good sale, right now playing 3 is the better option imo.
heh this guy must be american as the team DM list says about 3500 in his region, 3600 players overall.
Gears 1 struck the best balance as far as I'm concerned. As much as people rag on the story, the game does a huge amount of worldbuilding, establishes a strong personality for each member of Delta squad, and even gives the silent Raam sufficient character; all with a scant handful of cutscenes and no on-rails junk. Gears characters were always painted with broad brushstrokes, but each of the previous campaigns consistently delivered a great cast and fun dialogue.
By contrast, Judgment fails to successfully establish Karn and Kilo squad to the same degree. Baird and Cole are shadows of their snarky/bombastic selves, and Sofia's best-in-the-class cadet is paper-thin. "I studied that! Lucky I'm awesome at that. Academy!". Paduk has some character, but more by virtue of his former Indie status than due to his dialogue. It helps that he returns in Aftermath with, presumably, a different team of writers. Loomis is almost conspicuously weak. All he has to do is shout pompously, but he comes off as more of a weak stereotype than the traditional Gears archetypes.
Sure, not every Gears player cares about this stuff, but it represents the only aspect of Judgement's Campaign that isn't on a par with or better than the previous games.
yankeehater
Member
I bet there will be a Karn's shadow type DLC at some point.
Aftermath sheds light on that.
He ends up having a statue of himself made, he died defending the area.
SP is about the only thing I really care about with these games (don't have much time to play/get good at mp). I really have to agree that Judgment's campaign was mostly a failure when it came to writing good dialogue for these characters (with the exception for Paduk, except I wanted more backstory beyond the hints that we got). Going from Judgment (mostly silence) to Aftermath (banter-ama) was like slipping into a comfortable pair of shoes.
Then we're on the same page - I wonder how many people complaining about the lack of cinematic flair are talking about story and characters, and how many want to ride Brumaks in mine carts through a giant worm.
I don't think anyone misses the shitty vehicle segments of previous campaigns, but Judgment's story takes place in comparatively pedestrian territory. It's all man-made buildings aside from Onyx Point beach, so there's much less environmental variety. The campaign doesn't take players on the same journey as Gears 1, despite being an almost identical story premise with a similar length, and I could see that bugging some people. I loved seeing more of urban and suburban Tyrus, but I think lack of diversity in environment design is a legitimate complaint.
Really? I don't remember that at all lol
Well it was like 11 pm on launch day when I rushed through the campaign with my buddy
rangersfan414
Member
Just thought I'd throw this out there since all the other Gears threads haven't had replies in years.
I plan on playing Gears of War 1 for the first time tonite or tomorrow (Got the code from Judgment) and I was wondering if anybody wants to play campaign on co-op with me?
I plan on playing Gears of War 1 for the first time tonite or tomorrow (Got the code from Judgment) and I was wondering if anybody wants to play campaign on co-op with me?
Paduk was good. I felt like it was a good time to shine light on Baird and Cole meeting each other,etc but they stumbled on that bit.
Also, a bit of a cop out that (Aftermath spoiler)
Sophia gets kidnapped.
nhlducks35
Member
He died a couple of months later defending Halvo Bay in a "last stand". In Aftermath you can find his grave.
It is actually extremely easy to miss the statue.
mickcenary
Member
Woooooah. I guess the two-piece nerf just came into effect on my end. It's been gimped something chronic. The delay between melee and subsequent shot has been quadrupled at least.
gonna hop on to see the changes right now. Love how Pete is listening to fans' opinions!
mickcenary
Member
Ha. Yeah, it's good, I guess, but had they followed the generally steadfast rule of 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', then none of this would have been necessary.
It's also a bit annoying, as having only played Gears 3 MP heavily, my initial reaction was "ugh, what is this two-piecing nonsense?" Many rage-inducing moments later, I then decided that I needed to adapt to survive, so I became a massive two-piece wang. And whaddayaknow? Now it's become redundant again and my shotgun skillz have suffered!
