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maquiladora · Jun 7, 2013

Polygon have an article with indie devs and the importance of self publishing, it focuses mostly on the difference between MS and Sony policies. Blow's comments really stood out :

Blow said that ultimately he went with Sony because he dislikes what Microsoft does and "doing a deal with Microsoft is an existential risk for your company and game."

"One day they might just wake up irritated, or just get a crazy idea that they want to do something a different way now, and in the process they make your life hell or screw up your game," Blow said.

"I think there are very few developers who will tell you that Microsoft treated them respectfully, though there are a few that do feel that way."

Vlambeer's Rami Ismail seems to agree to an extent :

"Microsoft has a terrible reputation within the scene," Ismail said. "A lot of people think that Braid, Fez and Super Meat Boy earning a lot of money on Xbox Live Arcade means that indies will be waiting in line for another go at the platform, but their experiences with dealing with the platform have been enough to scare a lot of developers away from it. We're people that love making games and that are willing to do business and work hard to make games, but we don't have the resources to risk dealing with people that are undependable."

But it's not all one sided :

Not everyone agrees on Microsoft and its policies. Capybara co-founder and president, Nathan Vella, praised Microsoft for their support on Super Time Force, currently in development for Xbox 360. Vella was also featured in the presentation video during Microsoft's Xbox One reveal.

http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/7/438...d-off-next-gen-consoles-and-the-importance-of

Marleyman · Jun 7, 2013

He sure likes to talk .

Nnamz · Jun 7, 2013

I can't wait until we can all laugh about all this a few years from now....

BocoDragon · Jun 7, 2013

Damning comments from the poster child for signing a deal with MS.

.. Well him and Phil Fish, who is also on the F*** Microsoft tip these days.

Face it Tiger.. · Jun 7, 2013

Man Sony gave him his pedestal and his personal soapbox.

good for him.

Speedy Blue Dude · Jun 7, 2013

If Team Meat is anything to go by, aren't Microsoft really disrespectful and dishonest when it comes to partnering your game with them on Xbox Live Arcade?

EDIT: And Phil, said he can't patch Fez because Microsoft wants to charge him for it.

Gustav · Jun 7, 2013

BocoDragon said:
Damning comments from the poster child for signing a deal with MS.

.. Well him and Phil Fish, who is also on the F*** Microsoft tip these days.

Add Team Meat. Not happy either.

Sponge · Jun 7, 2013

I've been telling people that for years. Tons of studios have bit the bullet or lost quality after working with Microsoft.

Clott · Jun 7, 2013

Nnamz said:
I can't wait until we can all laugh about all this a few years from now....

Laughing at their funeral may be appropriate indeed.

Acquiescence · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
He sure likes to talk .

What should he do during an interview?

Risette · Jun 7, 2013

BocoDragon said:
Damning comments from the poster child for signing a deal with MS.

.. Well him and Phil Fish, who is also on the F*** Microsoft tip these days.

There's probably a reason for that.

MDSLKTR · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
He sure likes to talk .

You sure like to defend microsoft.

Hellsing321 · Jun 7, 2013

BocoDragon said:
Damning comments from the poster child for signing a deal with MS.

.. Well him and Phil Fish, who is also on the F*** Microsoft tip these days.

Well Team Meat too.

Marleyman · Jun 7, 2013

Acquiescence said:
What should he do during an interview?

Talk about his own shit maybe?

Mikey Jr. · Jun 7, 2013

Holy shit, did MS kill his family or something?

I have never seen someone show as much hate for a company as this guy.

DBT85 · Jun 7, 2013

Nnamz said:
I can't wait until we can all laugh about all this a few years from now....

We are laughing about it now. It's that or cry.

chickdigger802 · Jun 7, 2013

MS should hire Luke Smith from Bungie to fight Shane.

Wizman23 · Jun 7, 2013

Shocking news coming from a guy who had a 5 minute demo at the PS4 announcement back in February...SHOCKING!!

Marleyman · Jun 7, 2013

MDSLKTR said:
You sure like to defend microsoft.

ugh...I could care less about MS; this dude is annoying.

RobbieH · Jun 7, 2013

People should read the whole article and not just what Blow said. Quite damning, and just strengthens everything we've heard recently about Microsoft's stance on indie games.

BocoDragon · Jun 7, 2013

Gustav said:
Add Team Meat. Not happy either.

Hellsing321 said:
Well Team Meat too.

Didn't know that. Well, that's the trifecta.

CambriaRising · Jun 7, 2013

Blow is up his own ass most of the time, but having seen the evidence of how ms has treated indies I can't say he is wrong.

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

Keep on fighting the good fight my man.

R3TRODYCE · Jun 7, 2013

Does this guy ever shut up.

Da1nonly J · Jun 7, 2013

Did MS somehow fuck him on the Braid deal? It appears to be a pretty profitable deal to me.

maquiladora · Jun 7, 2013

RobbieH said:
People should read the whole article and not just what Blow said. Quite damning, and just strengthens everything we've heard recently about Microsoft's stance on indie games.

I've added two more quotes.

Cipherr · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

Like his past deal with Microsoft? Seems fine to me, you just seem annoyed that he doesn't have much positive to say about the way things went.

Marleyman said:
ugh...I could care less about MS; this dude is annoying.

If it was Phil Fish I might be there with you. But Blow isn't exactly 'always' talking about any damn thing. You are acting like he gets interviewed every 5 minutes.

Spongebob · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

That's not what they were interviewing him about.

Marleyman · Jun 7, 2013

CambriaRising said:
Keep on fighting the good fight my man.

What fight? You fuckers are paranoid. I can't despise this guy just because?

Acquiescence · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

That's what he's doing. Talking about why his "own shit" is on a Sony console and not a Microsoft one.

NullPointer · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

He is.

Phat Michael · Jun 7, 2013

the dude is not very objective at all. I dont really trust his BS.

Wynnebeck · Jun 7, 2013

Wizman23 said:
Shocking news coming from a guy who had a 5 minute demo at the PS4 announcement back in February...SHOCKING!!

Who originally had a game made on XBLA. Try to keep up dear.

Officerrob · Jun 7, 2013

OK, we get that he doesn't like MS, but it's starting to seem like a crazy ex girlfriend kind of thing.

ChosenPredator · Jun 7, 2013

this guy man lol

I guess he's planning never to work with MS ever again

yodathesoda · Jun 7, 2013

At the end of the day they will go where the biggest audience is.

I'm sure the guys that made State of Decay are feeling terrible with the deal they did with MS and over 200k sales the first day.

dosh · Jun 7, 2013

Mikey Jr. said:
Holy shit, did MS kill his family or something?

I have never seen someone show as much hate for a company as this guy.

To be fair he also has this to say about Sony:

"We know that Sony says they offer self-publishing, but I don't even know what that is going to be like yet, and I was in their launch show," Blow said. "It is possible that, in reality, self-publishing' on the PS4 ends up being not that different from not self-publishing' on the [Xbox One]."

StuBurns · Jun 7, 2013

He's in an unfortunate position, on one side, he's going to look like a dick for slagging off the company that made him a millionaire, on the other, he's a very notable indie figure and does have a responsibility to provide sage advice to the up and comers.

He's always going to get shit on either way.

The Witness will be incredible, and nothing else really matters.

Gustav · Jun 7, 2013

Phat Michael said:
the dude is not very objective at all. I dont really trust his BS.

Maybe Phil Fish or Team Meat then?

watership · Jun 7, 2013

Should we ask Noggy to comment? Noggy, why don't you hate Microsoft with the rage of a 1000 suns?

DUFFMCWALIN · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

And avoid questions or not give his two cents? Do you know how interviews work or what it means to be a public figure?

BigDug13 · Jun 7, 2013

Either console that charges indy developers to release a patch, especially when the fee is so ridiculous, is not a good place. Have either company stated if patches were still going to cost money next gen for self-publishing developers?

BlazingDarkness · Jun 7, 2013

Phat Michael said:
the dude is not very objective at all. I dont really trust his BS.

Well he's worked with both MS and Sony, so it's probably one of the more informed opinions you'll get.

AOC83 · Jun 7, 2013

Interesting to hear that MS isn´t just a terrible company for consumers, but developers too.

Cipherr · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
What fight? You fuckers are paranoid. I can't despise this guy just because?

Sure, but unless you have something constructive to say, or can add to/refute anything in the article, its probably best to despise him, quietly. Your post was shitty, and I'm sure you know that.

People should read the whole article and not just what Blow said. Quite damning, and just strengthens everything we've heard recently about Microsoft's stance on indie games.

I really wonder how this is all going to effect this gen. Will be interesting to see.

Risette · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

Yeah, he should just shut up and know his place, am I right? Who the hell does this guy think he is, talking about issues in the industry as a developer? All he needs to do is talk about his GAME in a vacuum where nothing else exists or matters.

jimmypython · Jun 7, 2013

Mikey Jr. said:
Holy shit, did MS kill his family or something?

I have never seen someone show as much hate for a company as this guy.

Gabe Newell on PS3 before portal 2.

codhand · Jun 7, 2013

Wizman23 said:
Shocking news coming from a guy who had a 5 minute demo at the PS4 announcement back in February...SHOCKING!!

just as shocking as the guy supporting MS with a game on 360 currently in development

Drek · Jun 7, 2013

Marleyman said:
He sure likes to talk .

He is widely considered an indie scene role model, so I don't see the problem with that. Braid was one of the first indie game to break out on console and a lot of developers are trying to mimic his success by getting on consoles.

watership · Jun 7, 2013

StuBurns said:
He's always going to get shit on either way.

No matter what has happened with negative reactions to Blow over the years, lets be clear, he shits on others more than gets shit on.

i-Lo · Jun 7, 2013

Well even if Sony screws the indies to their own detriment, there always will be mobile and pc.

Marleyman said:
Talk about his own shit maybe?

Read the first line of OP and perhaps you can refrain from making comments like this.

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