JerryThePredator
Banned
Sure worked out for Braid.
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Jonathan Blow : "doing a deal with MS is an existential risk for your company & game"
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I am not a public figure and rarely get interviewed; do you?
Live Free or Die
Banned
That is a good thing.
Barakov
Member
Well no, clearly not. Because for every instance of him shittin' there's a GAF thread with fifty people shitting on him.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
That was like, five years ago. Alot had changed if you've been paying attention at all.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
You know what's annoying? When people chastise interviewees for answering the questions they are asked.
CambriaRising
Member
Paranoid about what?
You can despise whoever you want but don't expect to not be quoted on it if you post it on a public forum.
funkystudent
Member
Signing any kind of exclusivity deal for a indie is a risk IMO. A bunch of games have gotten burned by exclusivity this generation. Blow and Team Meat have been very public about there problems. We saw Joe Danger 2 get killed by its weird "dont mention the PSN version" deal. I have heard the "yeah it sold like shit so hopefully releasing it on steam will make it profitable" from a few PSN devs as well but nothing on the "fuck MS" levels we have head from some of the more vocal guys like Blow.
Anyway for a indie the goal should try get there games on everything.
Anyway for a indie the goal should try get there games on everything.
The royal "We", huh?
Haunted
Member
notably being published by MS.
You know what else is annoying? Being piled on for not liking the fact that this is the go to guy for shitting on a company that gave you your only hit.
Microsoft funded Braid?
Oh, poor Microsoft.
NullPointer
Member
And if in the process it was a harrowing experience he's just supposed to shut up about it?
Sweet Aunt Nancys Panties
Banned
I don't mind him talking about his experiences at all. But when he starts talking for other devs and paints a picture that only a few people have liked working with Microsoft, then his opinion becomes worthless. Speak to what you know, not what you presume to be true.
DUFFMCWALIN
Member
No but I have the common sense to realize it's not good to dodge questions and since he is almost like a sage, or elder figure in the indie scene its probably nice of him to help those up and coming or those interested in making a indie game so they don't get fucked (at least not as hard).
Ho come on. He just doesn't like the guy, and his first post wasn't even that harsh. That doesn't make him an MS apologist.
Not to forget he has been having digs at MS long before he got on stage for Sony.
It is a familiar story now. I can remeber not long ago, Id seen an indie devs twitter feed (cant remeber which indie though). He stated "Just got new contract from MS. Its insulting"
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Read the article. He's not the only one with complaints about MS policies. And since when does anyone who isn't an employee owe a corporation loyalty?
Never said that
dragonelite
Member
It does get annoying imho.
Dark Octave
Banned
Somebody should photoshop the Braid guy running across.
Askherserenity
Member
lol Why would he want to? Especially now.
So he should ignore questions and say irrelevant things?
This post is something beautiful. I agree wholeheartedly.
He doesn't owe any loyalty; I just want to read about what he is doing with his games.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Jonathan Blow did not have a good time with the original Braid release.
'You're either against Microsoft or with them'. Not saying it's hivemind yet, but it's pretty much what's going on lately here.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
You "despise" Jonathan Blow because he speaks openly about his perspective on the industry and its major players?
What's wrong with you?
Then how did Microsoft provided him with success if they neither conceived the game nor created the game nor funded the game? They just provided him the platform on which to sell his game much like they have done for all other indie devs over the years.
As such why should J. Blow feel beholden to them for a financial arrangement even to this day?
i used to dislike jBlo. more, but the more i listen to his interviews, yes he's pretentious, esoteric, academic etc, but we need more of that in the industry, theres a shortage of thoughtfulness, and reasoned activism.
and ms should be kissing his ass, not the other way around,
ms shoulda put a ring on it
and ms should be kissing his ass, not the other way around,
ms shoulda put a ring on it
The way he speaks about it, it doesn't really seem like there was much of a bridge remaining to be burned in the first place.
Somebody should photoshop the Braid guy running across.
What is wrong with you? I would much rather hear about how game development is going for him than the same thing over and over again. It gets attention, which is why they ask him the same shit all the time. I don't have to fucking like it.
Sony doesn't charge for patches. In Blow's case, they didn't even charge for a dev kit.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Your condemnation of him sounded very much like it stemmed from him "shitting" on MS after they provided a platform for his first big success. Is that not about loyalty?
If you want to read about his game, you can. If you're tired of hearing about what he thinks about other things, blame the people who post threads about it and blame yourself for reading them.
Of course you don't have to like it, but you seem to be saying you wish he'd shut up. Can you not simply ignore the things he says when they aren't relevant to your interests?
Randolph Freelander
Member
I saw that bit about Fez and googled it. Hilarious and unsurprising. Microsoft's heavy-handedness with "their store" is ridiculous. These guys are just bad news.
mightynine
Member
God forbid we take your post history into consideration.
SniperHunter
Banned
Insomniac is doomed for sure now