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Smite |OT| Release The Quacken
- Thread starter BeekleMatter
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Great games last night Osirisblack and Bamelin; you guys are a blast to play with
Wanted to join you guys but was too tired... did win 3 arena games in a row. Game continues to be super fun and I have hardly touched the massive amounts of Gods.
dmosher
Member
Eh that's ok, I think with a game like this you either go for breadth and then depth or just find your few gods/roles that you like and go depth first. We should play some tonight
GuitarAtomik
Member
I need to get better about checking who's on when I start up the game lol. Half the time, I reflexively start up an Assault match and only notice the clan tab when someone posts while I'm already in game.
Patch notes today @ 4pm EST!
Patch notes today @ 4pm EST!
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
yup patch notes in 20 minutes on http://www.twitch.tv/smitegame
Turin Turambar
Member
They always start 15 minutes later (and that's being generous, sometimes 30 min. late) so take the time with a pinch of salt...
Liberty4all
Banned
Great games last night Osirisblack and Bamelin; you guys are a blast to play with
yeah that was fun! I start a new job Monday, sadly I won't be on during daytime EST hours anymore, only evening EST.
GuitarAtomik
Member
FINALLY! I cool Mercury skin. I will buy this just because I hathatehate his default look. I could do without that "M" on his back though.
Turin Turambar
Member
Turin Turambar
Member
There will be 3 things to buy from each pantheon, if you buy the 3 you get a free chest.
If you reach a certain number of stuff bought in general (the first is at 6) you also win some exclusive.. thing.
Rygar 8 Bit
Jaguar 64-bit
hope i can get that stuff from chests
Turin Turambar
Member
Osiris, Kali, Loki, Mercury... almost everyone who has a fast attack rate bought Qin's.
But obviously it hurts Kali more because overall she is a step below the rest.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Yea I look forward to playing with you guys always fun.Great games last night Osirisblack and Bamelin; you guys are a blast to play with
Osiris also got an attack speed nerf I played with him for a couple of hours on the PTS and it only really hurts his camp clear early game The price of qin's just means im much more aggressive early to get a pretty decent gold lead to finish qin's. This actually is going to make Osiris and Kali play much more aggressively early on.
As far as Cabrakan I played with him for a long spell yesterday and his kit is lacking. Not sure exactly whats wrong with him but his damage is laughably low on everything that he does and getting a kill with full magic power gear was almost impossible. Building him as full tank makes him just that there is never a time where he feels like a threat. He ran up on me when I was on Thanatos and I just turned around and blew him up. This was a full build level 20 Cabrakan ....something about him just feels off.
Unfortunately, Kali's early game is pretty rough as it is. Low physical power and her kit is lacking any real significant damage. She simply doesn't offer enough until Qin's are online.
Turin Turambar
Member
I really think Kabra is very mediocre. What would I pick him and not, for example Ymir?
-Ymir is a bit more tanky in hp.
-His stun is 2.25 secs instead of the maximum of 2secs of Kabra, it's more consistent because lots of time Kabra won't have the 2 charged up for the 1 sec stun, on average he stuns more people because the range is a bit better and Kabra 1's stun only affect one person, and it's cheaper because you use 1 ability instead of 2 to do it.
-His damage in his basic combo is a bit higher at 370+70% of glacial strike + 210+50% of freeze, vs 290+275+50% on both in Kabra's 1+2.
-Hit ult has a much bigger AoE range and it does three times as much damage (even if you activate it earlier, I think he still will win).
-But he doesn't create a wall with the ult... oh wait, if you like creating walls, you can do it much more with Ymir's wall!
The only parts where Kabra wins is:
-His 1 has a nice movement speed buff, which is the weak point of Ymir. But you can always buy Sprint3 or whatever.
-the tremors ability which is pretty cool, big area with soft CC effect and damage, which combined with someone else doing a stun or a root to the enemy can be very nice. But even then there is fair amount of drawbacks: he is very vulnerable to enemies just attacking outside of range, Ao planting a tornado in the center, He Bo knocking him up and interrupting the channeling, Hunters filling him with holes, etc. It's a slow method to clear waves and jungle, as it needs several seconds to apply enough damage, and in the very early game the enemy can put a feet inside and you will eat the aggro of the wave.
I have positive stats with Guardians, Geb, Ymir, Sobek, Bacchus, etc and right now I'm failing pretty hard with him.
-Ymir is a bit more tanky in hp.
-His stun is 2.25 secs instead of the maximum of 2secs of Kabra, it's more consistent because lots of time Kabra won't have the 2 charged up for the 1 sec stun, on average he stuns more people because the range is a bit better and Kabra 1's stun only affect one person, and it's cheaper because you use 1 ability instead of 2 to do it.
-His damage in his basic combo is a bit higher at 370+70% of glacial strike + 210+50% of freeze, vs 290+275+50% on both in Kabra's 1+2.
-Hit ult has a much bigger AoE range and it does three times as much damage (even if you activate it earlier, I think he still will win).
-But he doesn't create a wall with the ult... oh wait, if you like creating walls, you can do it much more with Ymir's wall!
The only parts where Kabra wins is:
-His 1 has a nice movement speed buff, which is the weak point of Ymir. But you can always buy Sprint3 or whatever.
-the tremors ability which is pretty cool, big area with soft CC effect and damage, which combined with someone else doing a stun or a root to the enemy can be very nice. But even then there is fair amount of drawbacks: he is very vulnerable to enemies just attacking outside of range, Ao planting a tornado in the center, He Bo knocking him up and interrupting the channeling, Hunters filling him with holes, etc. It's a slow method to clear waves and jungle, as it needs several seconds to apply enough damage, and in the very early game the enemy can put a feet inside and you will eat the aggro of the wave.
I have positive stats with Guardians, Geb, Ymir, Sobek, Bacchus, etc and right now I'm failing pretty hard with him.
Liberty4all
Banned
Close Arena games (within 5 - 10 points) are the best experience you can have in this game IMHO.
Liberty4all
Banned
I play Arena and Assault most of the time. Occasionally I'll sprinkle in Siege. I avoid Conquest like the plague.
I prefer it when Seige was 5 v 5, it's still fun though.
I mainly play Seige, Joust and Assault.
I came in new to MOBA and only did Conquest, now I am in the same boat and just run Arena and Assault.
The chat in Conquest generally makes MMO general chats look mature, it's embarassing
Turin Turambar
Member
I'm playing Siege a lot. I like the idea of lane fighting, pushing and ganking, but there is less stress than in comparison full Conquest, Siege feels more casual.
So what is Seige? I have not played it yet.. stuck at work so just curious how it is different than conquest? All I have played is Arena and Assault but having another mode where people do not always rage would be nice.
It's like conquest but there's only 2 lanes with a jungle separating the lanes.
There's a bar on the side that goes up with each creep kill and player kill, when it reaches 100 it'll spawn a siege tower that'll yknow, siege.
Turin Turambar
Member
-2 lanes instead of 3.
-4 players instead of 5 (so usually no jungler role, also there are less jungle camps).
-No Fire Giant or Gold Fury, but a Siege monster in the middle of the map. When you kill him a siege tower spawns (a super tough creep) in your base and advances in a lane.
-Also, you win tickets killing creeps and stuff, each time you get up to 100 another allied siege tower appears.
Thanks for the info... so I assume the hard core players stay away? Seems like a fun gametype.. not as much worry about what type of God you pick as long as you have a variety I would assume.
I shall check it out!
Spiritreaver
Member
Just had a game where every time Ares ulted it would cause connection lag for the ENTIRE team. Something up with the servers tonight?
GuitarAtomik
Member
I've managed to pull him two times in Assault and I have to agree. Not a fan of his at the moment. His kit is just seriously lacking in some areas and "What were you thinking?" in others.
He can't really initiate. Even with Blink, what are you going to do? Get a 1 second stun on a single target? Hope you have the 5 stacks or nothing on your 2 that has a pathetic amount of range? It's pretty pointless.
His 3 is interesting but the only time I've found it useful was to clear waves when none of the enemy was around, or activating it in the center of a confusing team fight to add the little damage I can. Any other situation and I get lit up (first match was against a Poseidon and Ao so you can imagine how that went) and the fact that it can be interrupted makes it even more useless (second match had He Bo who would just water spout me out of it any time I tried it).
His Ult would be cool if it had better range and the walls weren't pathetically weak. Half the time I threw them up they'd almost instantly be cleared by the enemy and it doesn't help that I contribute to it with my own damage.
Even his passive is pretty useless in the scheme of things.
So I don't know what they need to do, but they need to buff him hard. His 1 should either have no movement penalty for the first AA or add some protection or something. His 2's stun should be scalable instead of being 5 stacks or nothing and maybe should have better range. His 3 needs to be uninterruptible and probably add protections against Gods affected. His Ult's walls should be a lot stronger and maybe have more range. I think maybe even switching his 4 and 3 would make sense. Make his wall ult his 3, and just lower the amount of walls that spring up. Make his 3 the Ult and add protection, CC immunity, and cripple everyone affected.
Cabrakan almost feels half finished. There's some cool ideas in there but yeah. Dude's 3 is hysterical though, gotta say. One of the funniest / goofiest looking abilities in the game.
Also free gems this Sunday, in case anyone didn't hear. 40 per first win of the day.
Also free gems this Sunday, in case anyone didn't hear. 40 per first win of the day.
Yeah, his 3 is like some weird hybrid between bacchus ult and hades pull. If i could just run straight out of it, I'd avoid a lot more of the damage. His ult though, is even weirder given the interactions between it and NPCs along with his own skill sets damaging them.
If they procced a gib/explosion effect like hade's #3, i think that would make it feel more like an ult and less like a weird ymir wall cross posiedon wave. Although with a gib effect, he might be too deadly.
Liberty4all
Banned
Between starting a new job, Diablo and plants vs zombies I've been squezzed for playtime ... But ill be on Sunday for sure!
GuitarAtomik
Member
They're definitely both on the easy side. Personally I don't have any problems with Pos, but Ao is basically TornadoTornadoTornado all day. Curious if they adjust his kit at all when he becomes Kukulcan.
XT Vengeance
Member
Au does have one of the hardest Ults in the game, however. It is very difficult to land.
But when you do nail it perfectly in a teamfight it's so satisfying. Got 3 double kills with it in a conquest game yesterday.
The free gems got me 2 chests today, got Isis and Poseidon voice packs, don't really play either of them..
It's only a little difficult. Bee Man's stinger is much harder. Au isn't easy mode though. I've seen plenty of inexperienced players just eat dirt with him.
XT Vengeance
Member
Exactly. He requires finesse. You cant just make a beeline to enemy gods to try and drop tornadoes. Most experienced players will see you and dodge it easily. He also has no escapes, and his speed boost only helps if you don't get stunned, rooted, or mezzed.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Turin Turambar
Member
Zapman is doing interesting guides based on high ranked play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9XDPR2IEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhOpA6a_k1E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9XDPR2IEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhOpA6a_k1E
XT Vengeance
Member
Does he dive the Titan at level one and win?
Seriously though, Zapman is awesome.
Turin Turambar
Member
And today the professional league starts.
After Dignitas sudden transformation and looking more to cheer for Cog, I also liked Andi's jungle style over Lass.
After Dignitas sudden transformation and looking more to cheer for Cog, I also liked Andi's jungle style over Lass.