machemachete
Banned
Whats the reasoning behind this?
If you own a PS4 you are not going to buy it for a PC issue?
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Capcom cuts content (local co-op) from PC version of Revelations 2.
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Whats the reasoning behind this?
If you own a PS4 you are not going to buy it for a PC issue?
Jawmuncher
Member
Getting a lot of this info from the steam thread on the matter. If anyone was thinking otherwise the lack of ghis feature was indeed added last minute.
http://i.imgur.com/MyTK1EZ.jpg
Which is what I know is upsetting people the most. Would have been different if they said outright no Splitscreen. But to lie on their page during the preorder period saying offline coop is just all kinds of wrong.
http://i.imgur.com/MyTK1EZ.jpg
Which is what I know is upsetting people the most. Would have been different if they said outright no Splitscreen. But to lie on their page during the preorder period saying offline coop is just all kinds of wrong.
Jawmuncher
Member
I asked the creator of the mod if it's something he'll look into.
Jawmuncher
Member
Eurogamer is running it
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...sident-evil-revelations-2-on-pc?page=comments
If not read earlier this was Capcoms Response
This reasoning should have been stated Day 1. They still have not replied about lying on the page until the last minute.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...sident-evil-revelations-2-on-pc?page=comments
If not read earlier this was Capcoms Response
This reasoning should have been stated Day 1. They still have not replied about lying on the page until the last minute.
afternoon delight
Member
Sounds iffy to me. Leave the option in & let people try.
At least this thread alerted me to jawmuncher's improved avatar :blush
At least this thread alerted me to jawmuncher's improved avatar :blush
Yeah, too bad the game runs like shit for a ton of people. So much for a stable user experience.
Jawmuncher
Member
Yeah this is the biggest issue with it.
This feature wasn't said to not be included, when they went and threw it up on other sites for purchase. By the time any of us found out it was too late unless you perhaps bought directly though steam. I've already contacted the BBB about this because of this.
If they said from the get go it wasn't there I would be disappointed but not mad. This was clear false advertising.
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Got a email from Kotaku who is looking into it now.
The word arbitrary would mean it was taken out for no good reason, not that it's unimportant.
Jawmuncher
Member
Ahhh. Yeah I read it in the wrong context my bad.
Jawmuncher
Member
Kotakus story is up
http://kotaku.com/resident-evil-revelations-2s-advertising-isnt-entirely-1687985676
Details the false advertising
Also Jim Sterling retweeted so he might talk about it as well.
http://kotaku.com/resident-evil-revelations-2s-advertising-isnt-entirely-1687985676
Details the false advertising
Also Jim Sterling retweeted so he might talk about it as well.
Wow! Well done!
tim_pkmn89
Member
Two controllers?
Oh, it has controller support?
I doubt you will be able to use 2 KB/M like in the SS series, but you would use 1 KB/M and a controller or two controllers.
tim_pkmn89
Member
Most PC games do. Especially considering it's out on consoles.
Aspirations26
Member
Yeah, I was gonna buy this to play local coop with a friend, but fuck capcom for doing this. Even if a person mods it in, I'm not giving capcom money when they shouldn't be removing features in the first place.
You can use pretty much any usb gamepad on pc. Xbox, playstation and even Wii controllers work on pc.
Edit: beaten
You can use pretty much any usb gamepad on pc. Xbox, playstation and even Wii controllers work on pc.
Edit: beaten
RayearthRob
Member
Pc gamers feeling like wii u owners! :/
Jawmuncher
Member
I'm gonna see if I can fix this. Progress so far (2P is still controlled by AI here):
It's possible this might not to be difficult to pull off assuming things are handled the same way as in RE6 code-wise.
Sectus The God.
Doing what CapCant
Well that's definitely not true half my steam library doesn't have controller support. However, thank you for the answer.
Jawmuncher
Member
It depends. But newer stuff especially from the bigger devs have controller support. Can't think of the last multi platform game within the last few years that doesn't from a big developer/publisher.
I bet at least 50% of the games sold on Steam have some kind of native controller support. I bet at least a third of the games sold on Steam recognized an Xbox 360 controller immediately and switch to a controller interface automatically.
Cizeta-Moroder
Banned
Many Need for Speeds (PS2 generation at least) did this. And Borderlands 2.
It's pretty common, not that it's justified.
What am I supposed to see here?
More progress! Both players controlled by keyboard/mouse (the same keyboard/mouse that is):
The next step is the hardest step, because it's possible the PC version lacks the code for directing input from 2 different devices onto 2 different characters. Hopefully they didn't disable or remove that code.
The next step is the hardest step, because it's possible the PC version lacks the code for directing input from 2 different devices onto 2 different characters. Hopefully they didn't disable or remove that code.
pretty sure a PC can figure out which port a signal is coming from
I was imagining a scenario where each keyboard mouse was plugged into it's own USB port. Or, where they were all connected independently in some fashion. So in that scenario the computer has to decide which mouse goes with which keyboard.
worst case scenario, before coop you say "player one hit a key and click your mouse, now player two do the same thing"
it's the easiest imaginable problem to solve
Ok
Jawmuncher
Member
More progress! Both players controlled by keyboard/mouse (the same keyboard/mouse that is):
The next step is the hardest step, because it's possible the PC version lacks the code for directing input from 2 different devices onto 2 different characters. Hopefully they didn't disable or remove that code.
Fingers Crossed!
I'd take this at face value from the person already executing on it. Things can make sense in theory that a seemingly tiny issue can make unfeasible.
Dr. Buni
Member
The reasoning seems quite obvious to me. You would be supporting the company the same way if you buy it on the PS4.
If one isn't happy with the way a game is being handled, the idea is to not buy it at all.
yes?
AcceptableGhost
Member
if the game is made after like 2007 and has a console version, chances are that it has xinput support
Except if it is a BioWare title that is. (Though even they have come around with DA:I)
Soyongdori
Member
PC isn't console...
me0wish
Member
Capcom Official statement,
The PC version of Resident Evil Revelations 2 supports a variety of customisable visual settings and resolutions. The decision to prioritise a single local screen was made to ensure a stable user experience across a variety of different PC settings and devices.
Raid mode will support online co-op shortly after launch when a free patch is available for players to download which adds this feature, but the main campaign on PC will only be available to play in single local screen.
Source: Eurogamer
Sectus, you plan on burning our computers by adding coop? Don't you know that each computer has "a variety of customisable visual settings and resolutions"? What are you plotting to ruin the "stable user experience across a variety of different PC settings and devices" Capcom worked so hard to provide?
The PC version of Resident Evil Revelations 2 supports a variety of customisable visual settings and resolutions. The decision to prioritise a single local screen was made to ensure a stable user experience across a variety of different PC settings and devices.
Raid mode will support online co-op shortly after launch when a free patch is available for players to download which adds this feature, but the main campaign on PC will only be available to play in single local screen.
Source: Eurogamer
Sectus, you plan on burning our computers by adding coop? Don't you know that each computer has "a variety of customisable visual settings and resolutions"? What are you plotting to ruin the "stable user experience across a variety of different PC settings and devices" Capcom worked so hard to provide?
Jawmuncher
Member
Pc gamer trying to get more clarification over the false advertising
http://www.pcgamer.com/local-co-op-cut-from-resident-evil-revelations-2-crowd-goes-wild/
http://www.pcgamer.com/local-co-op-cut-from-resident-evil-revelations-2-crowd-goes-wild/
I don't think this was them trying to curb piracy, I think this was just a lazy port.
I'm gonna see if I can fix this. Progress so far (2P is still controlled by AI here):
It's possible this might not to be difficult to pull off assuming things are handled the same way as in RE6 code-wise.
More progress! Both players controlled by keyboard/mouse (the same keyboard/mouse that is):
The next step is the hardest step, because it's possible the PC version lacks the code for directing input from 2 different devices onto 2 different characters. Hopefully they didn't disable or remove that code.
You're a cool ass dude. Awesome to see, and excited to see the end outcome - whatever it may be.
Shadowhaxor
Member
Thought processes like this is likely what prompted Capcom to remove it. YOU CAN STILL PLAY CO-OP GAMES AT YOUR PC! There are thing things called large format monitor and ultra wide monitors. You, the things that consoles can't use cause they are limited to a 16:9 ratio format.
Jawmuncher
Member
It seems Capcom finally took notice :
"Dear RE fans,
We apologize to our Resident Evil Revelations 2 PC players who purchased the game and expected to have local co-op as a feature. The feature wasnt intended for this version and that caveat was mistakenly omitted from the product description on the Steam page earlier, and then included as soon as we were made aware. This was an unintentional error and again, we apologize for the confusion this may have caused.
We are currently looking into the matter and potential solutions and we hope to have new information to share very soon, so please stay tuned. Thank you for your patience and understanding."
"Dear RE fans,
We apologize to our Resident Evil Revelations 2 PC players who purchased the game and expected to have local co-op as a feature. The feature wasnt intended for this version and that caveat was mistakenly omitted from the product description on the Steam page earlier, and then included as soon as we were made aware. This was an unintentional error and again, we apologize for the confusion this may have caused.
We are currently looking into the matter and potential solutions and we hope to have new information to share very soon, so please stay tuned. Thank you for your patience and understanding."
Not to mention the increasing popularity of hooking a PC up to a living room TV.
me0wish
Member
Well, hopefully they patch in coop and patch out the horrible random frame rate drop.
Azure Dream
Member
Potential solution: Include local co-op.
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed featured it on PC.
Ridiculous! It's not as if Steam has an entire mode dedicated to simplified TV operation!
Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed featured it on PC.
Ridiculous! It's not as if Steam has an entire mode dedicated to simplified TV operation!