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MGS:GZ - Looks and Performs a lot better on PS4...

N.Domixis

Banned
I love how all the lies before and after launch backfired on MS. I also love how now they can't claim "Best place to experience multiform games" anymore LMAO
 

DigitalOp

Banned
When will people understand that it's not about the fancy graphics and solid framerates. It's about the backbone of console gaming. It's those intangibles that make a console (however less powerful than it's completion) click. Those working man's graphics that only the Xbox One can provide.

That's fine and all but when the stronger system is 100 bucks less. Its a problem.
 

nakedeyes

Banned
Do people at MS actually think that if they keep pretending there isn't a decent sized power disparity that somehow people will just forget?
.. What.. Do you think they will sell more units if they formally publically acknowledge it?

Those dudes at Microsoft are smart, I'm sure they know what's going on.. They already seem to be doing a better job at getting third party exclusives. Maybe that's their way of acknowledging it?

More on topic: PS4 seems to be the version to get for multi platform games this gen. ( seems right now anyways ). It's not that shocking, it was bound to be one or the other. Last gen, X360 was THE console to get all those mid gen Unreal Engine 3 games.

I know plenty of dudes who will happily play slightly inferior versions of all these games on XBONE, just cause they like their exclusives, controller, and/or online ecosystem more. Just like I knew a few dudes who played 100s of hours of PS3 Skyrim (yikes!).

I think they are nuts though.. PS4 for lyfe!
 

N.Domixis

Banned
I'm confused by Kojima. Wasn't he just touting how much awesomer the XBONE was just a few months ago?

Kojima probably thought the xbox was going to run away with this gen like many other devs thought,but then E3 happened and at launch he saw the sales and never looked back.
 
The rest is more than likely just filler. Fetch-quest type crap.

For comparison, if you rushed through AssCreed4 you could hit over 50% by completion in 6-8 hours... and spend another 50-60hours getting the other 50% via endless collectibles and "kill X Y amount of times in Z way".

If anything that low % number fills me with dread, not excitement. I can just see some sort of hidden unlock if you get 100% on GZ and it won't be pretty...
 

McLovin

Member
Does the xbox one version at least have some kind of cloud specific feature? Kojitards maybe? Or how about extra soldiers that do nothing but provide extra targets? I bet that can get a bump in frame-rate if they push the cloud to 100% power.
 

nakedeyes

Banned
I'm confused by Kojima. Wasn't he just touting how much awesomer the XBONE was just a few months ago?

Naw. I believe the only thing he has mentioned was a tweet about the PS4 version looking slightly better.

This post is news because it's starting to seem like it might look MUCH better... Even so, it's all subjective how much it will look better, if you only have XBONE you will probably still be in for a visual treat!
 

iMax

Member
True, but Respawn can't be too happy about it. I'm sure EA is rolling around in the money Microsoft threw at them, but in reality it could have sold a lot more on the PS4 compared to whatever it does on the Xbox One.

Surely Respawn must've been part of such dealings considering this an EA Partners title?
 

BadWolf

Member
For comparison, if you rushed through AssCreed4 you could hit over 50% by completion in 6-8 hours... and spend another 50-60hours getting the other 50% via endless collectibles and "kill X Y amount of times in Z way".

If anything that low % number fills me with dread, not excitement. I can just see some sort of hidden unlock if you get 100% on GZ and it won't be pretty...

And MGS has already done it with Peace Walker.

They reused a bunch of levels for a ton of missions over and over.
 
They should have stuck with their TV, TV, Football, TV strategy. That's their only real point of differentiation. There is nothing wrong with being an underpowered console, in fact some of my favorite past consoles were underdogs, but they need to quit trying to represent the console as something that it isn't.
I think you're confusing the terms. Most underdogs were actually the stronger systems of their time, not the weaker ones. See: Neo Geo.
 
I think you're confusing the terms. Most underdogs were actually the stronger systems of their time, not the weaker ones. See: Neo Geo.

Agreed, but my point still stands. Microsoft's effort to try and obfuscate their way to parity is starting to become pathetic. They should just play to the strengths that they do have because they will never be able to catch up.
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Not this bullshit again, please. This is "FFXIII coming to Xbox 360" all over again.

I don't see how personal preference over which console I'd rather play MGS on even begins to approach the fanboy driven response to FFXIII going multiplat. First off I have a 360 so this isn't about the warz. Secondly, MGSV going to Xbox 360 and Xbox One has literally barely generated any headlines. The exclusive Raiden mission caused more of a stirrup than MGSV being on the platform. Finally, there is not anything intrinsically wrong with identifying a console, a branded piece of plastic and metal, with a particular game or game series. There is this little concept called "sentimental value".
 
I think you're confusing the terms. Most underdogs were actually the stronger systems of their time, not the weaker ones. See: Neo Geo.

OG Xbox was the best underdog console. Vastly superior looking games, vastly superior online, interesting exclusives like KotOR, Ninja Gaiden, Jade Empire, Halo CE, etcetc. And that fuckawesome Duke controller.

How the mighty have fallen.
 

Chobel

Member
Surely Respawn must've been part of such dealings considering this an EA Partners title?

Not necessarily, EA are the ones responsible for publishing and it's rumored to be right of first refusal deal, so Respawn don't have right to say anything about being exclusive.
 

leadbelly

Banned
For comparison, if you rushed through AssCreed4 you could hit over 50% by completion in 6-8 hours... and spend another 50-60hours getting the other 50% via endless collectibles and "kill X Y amount of times in Z way".

If anything that low % number fills me with dread, not excitement. I can just see some sort of hidden unlock if you get 100% on GZ and it won't be pretty...

I suspect there is probably some unlockable game modes in there. They probably don't amount to anything of substance though.
 
This is just my interpretation but... I felt like Kojima wasn't that optimistic about the PS4 initially, he seemed to be more in the loop about the Xbox One and touting his excitement about creating an engine that could do multiplatform games than to say anything very positive about the console. Like I remember being surprised around the PS4 reveal how apathetic he was to it, and he wouldn't comment on whether there would be next-gen versions of Phantom Pain until Microsoft was ready to reveal their console and stuff like that even though everyone knew the PS4 existed.

It took until the Red Band trailer was released online a few days later before we even had confirmation of a PS4 version, and he had a presence at both the Xbox One reveal (pre-recorded) and the Microsoft E3 Conference. It took until the PS4 Launch when there was all the buzz for the console before he appeared at a Sony event to promote MGSV.

http://www.edge-online.com/news/hideo-kojima-on-sonys-ps4-plans/

Speaking to us after the launch of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Kojima said that he was too busy to actually watch Sony’s PlayStation Meeting, but when we described it to him, he responded: “Of course, I know what the hardware is, but I want to see how other companies are using it. First of all, I think that’s great, but it’s nothing special; you could see it coming. It’s the logical evolution of the platform and I think it has to head in that direction, hearing what you said is not surprising.”

“Honestly, I think all of that is good and great,” he continued. “Social aspects, the multidevice direction: that’s correct, that’s the way to go. But just because it has these features doesn’t mean it’s going to be a success. What will really determine whether or not it sells is what titles will be available for the platform. And unfortunately, even though I am friends with Mark Cerny, he’s never told me what other studios are working on. I even ate a meal with him recently and he didn’t tell me anything.”
 
Strange Question:

Can somebody please explain the significance of the ellipsis (...) in the thread title? People put these in their thread titles from time to time and I know the ellipsis is supposed to signify "an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text" but in this case "MGS:GZ - Looks and Performs a lot better on PS4" would seem to stand on its own. What else is being omitted?
 
The disparity this gen is surprising. I would have thought we'd get to a point where the box doesn't matter, but no.

Uhh it has everything to do with what is in the box actually. You can only do so much with 16 ROPs, 12 CUs, 768 shader units and 68GBs of memory bandwidth. Heck I wish I did not have to upgrade my Radeon 6770 which is about on par with the X1 power wise, but my GPU was lower end when I bought it 4 years ago. Time to jump to a GTX 670 or Radeon 270x or something
 

News Bot

Banned
Strange Question:

Can somebody please explain the significance of the ellipsis (...) in the thread title? People put these in their thread titles from time to time and I know the ellipsis is supposed to signify "an intentional omission of a word, sentence, or whole section from a text" but in this case "MGS:GZ - Looks and Performs a lot better on PS4" would seem to stand on its own. What else is being omitted?

Surprise.
 
From an architectural standpoint (ie RROD engineering problems aside), the Xbox 360 was incredibly well designed. The fact that it held up so well and still usually offered superior 3rd party games (despite the PS3 launching a year later in US/Japan and 18 months later in Europe) was very impressive.

It's such a massive U-turn to see this happening though, I can only assume the design team for both 360's hardware and OS disappeared before XBO work began. It really doesn't feel like the successor to the 360 at all.
 

Timeaisis

Member
Kojima mentioned he would do a comparison video, but I don't recall him outright saying GZ is better. But if he did, that's a pretty big deal.
 
Last time he said he wanted people to play on the PS4 and now this. It's starting to add up but looks like there will be a big disparity between the two.
 

Shrennin

Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
It even got announced before. It's crazy and pretty unprecedented. I don't think it's ever happened before, has it?

Well, with the PS360 gen, you had the 360 released a full year before the PS3, the 360 was cheaper, and it was the console to buy multiplatform games on so ...
 

Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
This is just my interpretation but... I felt like Kojima wasn't that optimistic about the PS4 initially e.t.c. e.t.c.

Same here. I think he was maybe dissuaded by the fact that around MGS4's release, the 360 was the gaming platform of choice. Also development for the PS3 was supposedly hard, so maybe he retained a bit of resentment from that. Add to the fact that Peace Walker, and every mainline game except 4 went to 360, and yeah, it seems like he wanted to "jump in". If you follow his twitter, though, he has posted various things about Playstation nostalgia. I dunno, we're probably reading into things too much. At any rate things seem back to normal lol
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Sub_Level

wants to fuck an Asian grill.
I don't really understand his tweet. How can he finish it in 90 mins and only have 9% of the game complete?

You've never played a game where merely completing it doesn't necessarily get you 100% before? It's not that uncommon. This doesn't at all change the fact that Ground Zeroes is hilariously short, and if you're the type of person who does not care about extras you won't get your money's worth at all, but people who thought GZ was HOLISTICALLY nothing but 2 hours of game were being silly.
 

Vizzeh

Banned
I think this is the final straw for me, i will go with PS4 first when i manage to find a new job!.

I always buy both Xbox and Playstation consoles (why miss out on all those exclusives?) but i am more of an Xbox fan because of the controller and i prefer their exclusives but the power difference is having a much bigger effect in games than i honestly thought was possible.

I made my decision months before launch and after countless debates over paper specs (nevermind the PR suicide), it goes to show alot of people were correct, the difference could increase further when full gpGPU and compute functions are taken advantage off.

The more I think about it, im quite happy to pay the equivalent of 20$ for this game. Looking forward to it, as others have said this is free marketing for Kojima, all the ps4 vs one.
 
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