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Oculus Rift Development Kit 2 announced, up for preorder (based on Crystal Cove)
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wanderingprostheyltite
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Also a good point to make is most of the currently available demos and games in development are being done on Unity with fairly low res assets. Obviously the demand increases at 1080 but I don't imagine you'd really need something that hardcore to achieve 60 with what's going to be on offer. Star Citizen is another matter entirely.
Smart. Can't wait for the whole presentation to be uploaded.
E-Cat
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Translation still seems to be a challenge, though. It's not exactly clear to me how that would be solved, but maybe they have some ideas.
Actually yeah my debit card is being replaced next week so I suppose I'll have to email Oculus with the new number.
To me it sounds like even doing only rotation could be helpful. It's probably only for very small scale adjustments anyway, but if it only bridges a <10ms gap that could be sufficient.
AlwaysPlaying
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Forgive me if this has been answered before. I only have vision in one eye. Would i be wasting my money on this hardware? Would I get the same effect. I dont have any depth perception obviously. Can anyone chime in on this?
Well, the goal of VR is to simulate reality. So if you don't have stereoscopic depth perception in reality you also won't have it in VR. You'll still benefit from the wide FoV and positional/rotational head tracking. But your system will be wasting half its time rendering stuff you won't see
Iced_Eagle
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1080p/60fps is great when viewed on TV's.
With VR, it's a whole different game though. 1080p is good for VR. Not great, but good. It's the refresh rate which I really hope they increase. That's the biggest culprit to motion sickness in VR.
It will be interesting to hear dev's impressions of Morpheus once they can get serious time with it (not just a few minutes at a trade show).
We'll see!
AlwaysPlaying
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Well, the goal of VR is to simulate reality. So if you don't have stereoscopic depth perception in reality you also won't have it in VR. You'll still benefit from the wide FoV and positional/rotational head tracking. But your system will be wasting half its time rendering stuff you won't see
I get ya. Thanks for the info.
E-Cat
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It sounds to me like the kind of thing you would have to do "across the board" to get consistent results and no artifacts. But that's just my intuition.
Well, the goal of VR is to simulate reality. So if you don't have stereoscopic depth perception in reality you also won't have it in VR. You'll still benefit from the wide FoV and positional/rotational head tracking. But your system will be wasting half its time rendering stuff you won't see
I wonder, though... since they already have the ability to divide the screen into two, why couldn't there be an option to toggle 2d mode for just one eye?
EDIT: Hmm, there's probably some overlap between the different eye views. I wonder how that would affect the FoV?
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Replay half life 2 in VR man, that's what I intend to do. I feel that experience may be worth the price alone.
Spazznid
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Against my better judgement... I did it too... Time to get a job.
I'll probably re-replay it in DK2 after replaying it in DK1. Now with the ability to actually see enemies on motion!
flyinpiranha
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Durante mentioned to another user but check out the PC thread. Super helpful, the more knowledgable will help you down to every part you may need to order and the OP of the thread is constantly updated.
I just ordered another 8GB DDR3 to bump to 16 GB, so now I'll just wait on a good sale for a card closer to release.
FYI, I was chatting with somebody on reddit that mentioned the site went live at 8:15 AM PST, so I would imagine that the first hour would be in the first batch ... also read that some people in the first few minutes got bumped and dumped and there wasn't much Oculus could do (reply from a support rep). So if you don't have an order number, you might be SOL.
But this is just information posted from users, take it with a grain of Forbes Contributors.
wanderingprostheyltite
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Sixense (creators of the hydra controller) are supposedly demoing their new STEM system of motion controllers with Portal 2 at GDC in VR on the Rift. Anxious to see some videos/impressions of that. Hopefully Valve releases public VR support for Portal 2 soon! Been wanting to play that one with native support since day one of having DK 1.
I played through most of Half Life 2 for the FIRST time with the DK1. IT. WAS. AMAZING!
Seriously. I havent been able to play a game for more than an hour at best for a long time. But with HL2 and the rift, was was playing 2-3 hours sessions and completely forgetting myself. It was awesome and a bit scary at the same time. Taking off the headset and going back to reality was actually a bit jarring.
Im looking forward to actually finishing it and possibly playing episodes 2 and 3 with DK2.
makeitawkward
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What games can I play if I purchase this dev kit right from the get go?
As later games are released, will the dev kit continue to be able to play them?
As later games are released, will the dev kit continue to be able to play them?
I ordered this so quick and without a second thought. I still use my DK1 from time to time and with all the improvements I could see myself using this on a more regular basis. Also with all these 3d engine companies making their software more accessible just motivates me more to work on something for VR.
Angry Fork
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... -_-
Should I just get this? I'm not a dev and have no plans to be but I want this shit so fucking bad. Will the consumer version have dramatic upgrades? Will it be cheaper? What's the benefit of waiting for that?
AlwaysPlaying
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It sounds to me like the kind of thing you would have to do "across the board" to get consistent results and no artifacts. But that's just my intuition.
I wonder, though... since they already have the ability to divide the screen into two, why couldn't there be an option to toggle 2d mode for just one eye?
EDIT: Hmm, there's probably some overlap between the different eye views. I wonder how that would affect the FoV?
I have my own ways of adapting to the lack of 3rd dimension. I wonder what it would look like for me?
flyinpiranha
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In an interview they mentioned web cameras. You'd use it for augmented reality and such. But it could be anything ...
Personally, I need to figure out how to wire a fan to go up and down with my CSR Pedals, wind in the face with open canopy cars!
nathan mentioned that they put it in to encourage invention and experimentation and make any modifications or extensions more convenient.
MikeE21286
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I don't get why to buy this without games planned or available
Already released full games with native support:
- Half Life 2
- TF2
- Strike Suit Zero
- Hawken
- War Thunder
- iRacing
Until DK2 ships it should be a few more.
The Oculus API is already designed for supporting multiple HW models from the start, so old software should be compatible with newer HW and the other way around. Stuff developed for DK1 will have to be updated for positional tracking though.
I think (think not know) that they include the neccesary taxes in your order. You have to specify your country and the put about 70 $ on that for me. That would be the VAT here. I hope nothing else comes on top
I think the $77 they add would JUST be VAT. You would need to pay other import duties here in the UK, I would account for around 15%.
Betta Lines
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so maybe they will release their own "modifications" or "extensions" like VR Controllers
Oculus Rift needs to have a own controller, you cant sell the device without it. You cant request that all the Consumers buy xbox pad, steam pad, stem, m+kb etc. all together and devs need to know what controller their consumers will use with their game.
Consumer version will have higher resolution, lower latency and higher refresh rate, along with some likely ergonomic and aesthetic improvements.
It will also likely be introduced when there's some proper software ready. Right now, VR gaming is a bit of a wilderness and there aren't many official VR titles out there, so don't expect plug and play functionality.
E-Cat
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Well, that depends. Have you had this visual impairment since birth? In that case you wouldn't be "missing out" on anything, really; it would presumably feel natural just as real life.
NoPiece
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Not before a couple of hours ago did I ever think I would buy a fucking OR devkit.
Just hope it's worth it GAF...
Used my PS4 money to buy this too
Me too!
Me too...
I do wonder if this will have any effect on next gen console adoption. I'm much more excited about this than either console right now.
Are higher resolution and refresh rate really confirmed?
Angry Fork
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Honestly I feel like it would be worth it just for Half Life and TF2 (my most played game). But I know if I spent 350 on this and a 300$ better version comes out next year I'll be upset, so I don't know =( Why is it taking so looooong.
E-Cat
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You just don't get it, period.
Potential. Literally, you're paying for potential -- and it's so staggering, there's an extraordinarily good chance of getting your money's worth. And then some.
You could probably still sell the DK2 for over $200 easily once pre orders for the consumer version start.
jediyoshi
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Was this comment plucked from the DK1 thread?
CrunchyFrog
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It actually is not stereoscopic (i.e. 2 1080p rendered images as on 3DTV's of today), it's 1080p cut in half for each eye, effectively 2 960x1080 screens which has the same number of pixels as standard 1080p, but the key factor here is that you have to maintain (ideally) on the consumer version a constant unwavering 90FPS in order to have the optimum experience. To do that, yeah, you're going to need to either have a beefy single GPU (a 780ti or the like, as SLI introduces a lot of latency and just isn't as stable) or turn the graphical bells and whistles down a bit (on my 770 i'll likely have to revert to medium/high settings as opposed to all ultra though this depends on the game obviously).
Gotta master the art of timing when you hear rumblings about the consumer version about to be announced sell it for maximum return.
Where did the 90 fps figure come from, considering the devkit 2 only runs at up to 75 Hz refresh? Am I totally confused?
Some interview quotes about the consumer version further improving refresh rate over DK2, combined with the Valve specs.
For anyone who has tried DK1, and ideally even Crystal Cove how does this demonstration match up (with regards to the "screen door effect")?
http://vr.mkeblx.net/oculus-sim/
I'm curious whether the AMOLED benefits are taken into account with regards to the "sceen door effect". Assuming the consumer version releases at 1440p and using a AMOLED screen, is that enough to practically remove the screen door effect completely?
http://vr.mkeblx.net/oculus-sim/
I'm curious whether the AMOLED benefits are taken into account with regards to the "sceen door effect". Assuming the consumer version releases at 1440p and using a AMOLED screen, is that enough to practically remove the screen door effect completely?
call_kotaku
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Oculus confirmed 85hz+ and 1080p+ for CV1 in multiple interviews