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GTX TITAN Z announced $2999

MoonGred

Member
Hey, who are you calling crazy!? :D

4K Surround FTW!

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I'm using 4-Way GTX-Titan SC.

The Titan "Z" is the GTX-690 version of the Titan Black. It still has 'only' 6GB per GPU (still not enough for 4K Surround) and since it's on the same PCB (dual GPU), it's OC'ing ability will be stunted compared to two separate GTX-Titan Blacks in SLI.

To top it off, this "Z" is $1000 more than two GTX-Titan Black. LOL.. same compute performance, same VRAM, and same number of CUDA cores.

Poor Jen-Hsun, he needs gas money for his Koenigsegg CCX. XD



A bit off topic, I really like your setup but don't the black borders between the screens get annoying?
 

Smokey

Member
A bit off topic, I really like your setup but don't the black borders between the screens get annoying?

I don't have a portrait setup like his, but I do have a landscape multi monitor setup. After a while you don't notice the bezels. The entire picture fills your field of view and so it's pretty easy to get immersed into what is going on. Here's a pic I took of BF4 some time ago:

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the bezels are what people naturally gravitate to when they see these setups...but once you have something like the image above in front of you...they tend to fade away and your eyes adjust. It's hard to explain without seeing it in person. These are also the types of cards that the 780ti/Titan/Titan Z are made for. You're able to play at extremely high resolutions, keep settings high, and enjoy high frame rates.
 

Paertan

Member
I don't have a portrait setup like his, but I do have a landscape multi monitor setup. After a while you don't notice the bezels. The entire picture fills your field of view and so it's pretty easy to get immersed into what is going on:

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the bezels are what people naturally gravitate to when they see these setups...but once you have something like the image above in front of you...they tend to fade away and your eyes adjust. It's hard to explain without seeing it in person.

Peripheral vision don't need to be as good. I would love something like that. If it was more popular you could probably develop a method where you run the side screen at lower resolution with lower effects since that is mostly for spotting enemies trying to flank you. If your GPU can't handle them all at full resolution.
 

MoonGred

Member
Peripheral vision don't need to be as good. I would love something like that. If it was more popular you could probably develop a method where you run the side screen at lower resolution with lower effects since that is mostly for spotting enemies trying to flank you. If your GPU can't handle them all at full resolution.


I like the idea of this, but wouldn't you need at least a 3 monitor setup for this? One for each flank, it sounds harder to split up 2 screens in 3 zones than 3 screens in 3 zones. That said I don't know anything about this at all.

Any ways we're getting off topic.

Has there been any word on pricing for different currencies? Aud shouldn't be to different I suppose.
 

Paertan

Member
I like the idea of this, but wouldn't you need at least a 3 monitor setup for this? One for each flank, it sounds harder to split up 2 screens in 3 zones than 3 screens in 3 zones. That said I don't know anything about this at all.

Any ways we're getting off topic.

Has there been any word on pricing for different currencies? Aud shouldn't be to different I suppose.

Well for the setup he is showing yes you do need an odd number of m onitors. I don't say three because I have seen five.
But you could show other stuff. Battlefield 4 I think can show map and stuff on secondary monitor. It is not the same thing but I hope more developers understand that a lot of people have more than one monitor and should let us use it.

The maps in RTS games i something I have always wanted on a secondary screen. You can do it yourself by recording that area and then making it bigger on a secondary screen. but it is not the same.
 

20cent

Banned
okay it is expensive,and I won't buy it, but it is not THAT crazy, some idiots pay that much for 5 meters of golden-extra-pure-oxygen-free hdmi cables...so...why not...
 

Water

Member
Peripheral vision don't need to be as good. I would love something like that. If it was more popular you could probably develop a method where you run the side screen at lower resolution with lower effects since that is mostly for spotting enemies trying to flank you. If your GPU can't handle them all at full resolution.
I've had a related idea that would require considerably more tech, but possibly be worth it especially for VR: use super high speed eye tracking to identify what the user is looking at, and render only that portion of the view with the highest accuracy, with everything else being rendered at sufficient accuracy that peripheral vision can't tell the difference. This wouldn't have to be just resolution adjustment, but e.g. switching to simpler shaders that omit fine detail while retaining approximately correct average color and brightness for small areas of pixels. You could also selectively render e.g. moving things at high resolution even outside focus since peripheral vision is good at picking up motion.
 

Coreda

Member
Unless I'm missing something wouldn't just be cheaper to buy two 6GB GTX 780 Ti's? EVGA are about to release an upgrade to 6GB for their customers, and from reading some specs the Titan Z is essentially the power of two Ti's in one anyway.
 

Paertan

Member
I've had a related idea that would require considerably more tech, but possibly be worth it especially for VR: use super high speed eye tracking to identify what the user is looking at, and render only that portion of the view with the highest accuracy, with everything else being rendered at sufficient accuracy that peripheral vision can't tell the difference. This wouldn't have to be just resolution adjustment, but e.g. switching to simpler shaders that omit fine detail while retaining approximately correct average color and brightness for small areas of pixels. You could also selectively render e.g. moving things at high resolution even outside focus since peripheral vision is good at picking up motion.

I have also thought about that but I think the delay would be to much. But using more shaders and AA in the middle of the screen in FPS games should be possible. But yeah. Dem algorithms man.
 

Paertan

Member
Unless I'm missing something wouldn't just be cheaper to buy two 6GB GTX 780 Ti's? EVGA are about to release an upgrade to 6GB for their customers, and from reading some specs the Titan Z is essentially the power of two Ti's in one anyway.

It is not for regular consumers. Professionals working with CAD, animation and other graphics heavy engineering work. Would love to run my week long simulation on one of these instead of the pc I am using now :(
 
Unless I'm missing something wouldn't just be cheaper to buy two 6GB GTX 780 Ti's? EVGA are about to release an upgrade to 6GB for their customers, and from reading some specs the Titan Z is essentially the power of two Ti's in one anyway.

SLI the Titan Zs, you're not thinking big enough ;-)
 
Unless I'm missing something wouldn't just be cheaper to buy two 6GB GTX 780 Ti's? EVGA are about to release an upgrade to 6GB for their customers, and from reading some specs the Titan Z is essentially the power of two Ti's in one anyway.

2x 780 Ti will be probably faster - you can bet this card will be downclocked to even fit into any sane thermals while 2x780ti = 2x250Watts

Also imho it is amazing shoving of engineering to even fit two fully unlocked GK110 chips into one card without it melting pc :D
 

m@cross

Member
If I was wealthy enough to afford to make a machine with shit like this, I would youtube my butler playing it as I sat looking disinterested drinking tea....
 

Hubble

Member
While obscenely expensive, this card will only advance GPU technology and reduce prices of other video cards over time.
 

donwx

Banned
I wonder what are the chances a few months from now, we'll see a GTX 790 ( 2 780''s) come out to offer similar performance at a cheaper price,? similar to when the 780 came out after Titan last year.
 
This is unacceptable. This is why I say that PC gaming is the most dangerous movement in gaming. We have companies like MS and Sony selling high end graphic consoles for a fraction of the price of this thing and they do this whilst delivering the majority of the power that this thing does (8GB DDR5 in PS4/ 12GB DDR5 in nvidia Titan= 66% of the power). At this rate and with console sales dropping due to bad word of mouth from many unappreciative gamers, we may face a time soon that anyone who isn't a PC gamer is unable to afford to game. If we allow this to continue, we may see the end of gaming as anything but yet another temporary distraction for the wealthy e.g. yachting.

wat
 

Hawk269

Member
Would be nice to see, but I doubt it.

Someone needs to make a DisplayPort to HDMI 2 adapter. I am a member at the AVS Forums and there are a lot of PC gamers that have 4k sets, but since no one other than Panasonic has a 4k set with DisplayPort, everyone is waiting for GPU that has HDMI 2.0. If someone would make an adapter, they would sell pretty damn good imho. I would pay a premium price for such a device.
 

SapientWolf

Trucker Sexologist
I wonder what are the chances a few months from now, we'll see a GTX 790 ( 2 780''s) come out to offer similar performance at a cheaper price,? similar to when the 780 came out after Titan last year.
I think it's coming next year at the earliest. It will look like a steal compared to the Z. That's part of the reason why they're marketing this towards gamers.
 

Qassim

Member
The Titan line isn't really intended for gaming, is it? Its often talked about like it is among journalists but I recall reading that isn't really what they're made for...

The GPU itself was brought from their professional compute line of cards for servers (Tesla). So the GPU wasn't originally built out for gaming, but they brought it into their gaming line with the Titan cards and further cut it down for the 780Ti and 780.

So yeah - the Titan line was intended for gaming. They sell it as a gaming card, and advertise it to gamers. They found there is apparently quite a sizeable market for people who will buy $1000 GPUs (although I suspect the reasonably cheap compute performance attracted non-gamers too) - and have just kept trying to find the ceiling from there on.
 

joesiv

Member
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That picture needs updating.
Interesting graph... even more interesting when you look at the far left, where the PS3 was released, seemed like the PS3 was equivalentish to a high end PC GPU. Is that accurate?

Doesn't bode well for this generation in terms of pushing the graphics envelope in years to come.
 

x3sphere

Member
Someone needs to make a DisplayPort to HDMI 2 adapter. I am a member at the AVS Forums and there are a lot of PC gamers that have 4k sets, but since no one other than Panasonic has a 4k set with DisplayPort, everyone is waiting for GPU that has HDMI 2.0. If someone would make an adapter, they would sell pretty damn good imho. I would pay a premium price for such a device.

I didn't know there were any 4K sets with DisplayPort, so that Panasonic can do 60Hz?
 

SpyGuy239

Member
I don't have a portrait setup like his, but I do have a landscape multi monitor setup. After a while you don't notice the bezels. The entire picture fills your field of view and so it's pretty easy to get immersed into what is going on. Here's a pic I took of BF4 some time ago:

10568004545_0e88ef1116_k.jpg


the bezels are what people naturally gravitate to when they see these setups...but once you have something like the image above in front of you...they tend to fade away and your eyes adjust. It's hard to explain without seeing it in person. These are also the types of cards that the 780ti/Titan/Titan Z are made for. You're able to play at extremely high resolutions, keep settings high, and enjoy high frame rates.

beautiful.

Do you have more images of BF4 or any other games like this?

Looks soooo good.
 

mephixto

Banned
Interesting graph... even more interesting when you look at the far left, where the PS3 was released, seemed like the PS3 was equivalentish to a high end PC GPU. Is that accurate?

Doesn't bode well for this generation in terms of pushing the graphics envelope in years to come.

By the time PS3 launched, Nvidia launched his legendary 8 series, the 8800 to be more specific, wich was slightly better than both GPUs on the 360 and PS3.
 
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