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Major Nelson interview with Phil Spencer

H4r4kiri

Member
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.
 

imtehman

Banned
MS's list is pretty skewed towards 3rd-party developed titles atm. XB1 has around 20+ exclusives released/announced. 15 of those are 3rd-party developed. (inc. stuff like 3rd-party timed exclusives like Titanfall, Peggle2,PvZ)

Fundamentally, it doesn't matter whether or not games are first-party or second-party. But it does put a point for certain perspectives in the long-run. The long-run was what supported PS3's strong software output year-after-year.

u cant fault MS for going 3rd party strategy, it is what drove sales of consoles back in the ps1 and ps2 era.
 

vg260

Member
Sounds more promising, but I feel like the gaming focus promise is too late when the system was not designed with it as the core focus.
 

ironcreed

Banned
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

I'm not worried about the government watching me sit in front of my TV for hours having a good time playing some games or watching a movie. I got news for you, if the NSA wants to track you, they would be doing it through your computer or smartphone first. Might as well get rid of those, too.
 

jaypah

Member
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

Billions of people won't buy the XO and they all have a reason. No need to apologize.

All I want from E3 is Crackdown. Everything else would just be gravy.
 
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

Maybe its just me but I dont care if an American security agency is watching me. My phone has a camera, am I being watched? Probably and I dont give a shit.
 

flkraven

Member
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

So my assumption is that you are using a PC with Linux on it? Surely not a Microsoft OS or god forbid an Apple product (which was also implicated in the PRISM scandal). I commend you on your difficult stance, since I believe it would be nearly impossible to find anything on the internet without using Yahoo! or Google. Hmm, Bing maybe? Nah, Microsoft product. Can you recommend a good search engine for me? I'll check back here after I delete my facebook, dropbox, and google+ accounts. Thanks!
 

The Flash

Banned
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

might as well get rid of all your internet devices then. I'm sure MI6 or whoever doesn't care who you are either.
 

Bsigg12

Member
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

Bahahaha

Haha

ha

If the NSA is going to track you for whatever reason, you're already screwed. They will find ways regardless of what devices and companies you go through.
 

RdN

Member
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.

LOL!

I love this kind of ignorance.

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On topic, I'm very please with the direction Microsoft has been taking in the months after launch. Very fast updates, direct communication. Phil Spencer being named the new boss is a great move, and I'm really excited for what they'll show at E3.
 

El_Chino

Member
Maybe it is just me as European,but whatever Micro brings to the table with XBOX, I am never gonna buy one because of the shit they do with NSA. I dont want to give a Company like this my money sorry.
This reason erks me every time. Your phone, laptop, tablet, etc all have cameras that the NSA or any other government agency could use to see/track you. Same could be said if you the PS4 camera. Also, you could just unplug the kinect you know?
 

RSBeaver

Banned
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Dat Microsoft and Dat NSA.
 

Chettlar

Banned
Canned questions and rehearsed answers but still good to hear his vision and the direction he plans to take the company. I have faith in him.

I have to say, though, you expected anything other than rehearsed questions? This is kind of how you do things like this. Doesn't mean any of it isn't genuine.

This series was such a waste of Rare and MS's time and money. NO!

You take that back right now! Viva Pinata is one of the best games Rare has ever made, easily. It didn't gain such a cult following by being a "waste of time."

The reason it didn't sell as well as it could have was because it was marketed REALLY poorly. Even Rare was really upset with MS for the marketing, if I remember correctly.
 
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Dat Microsoft and Dat NSA.

Another quality contribution.

Ive always considered it bizarre the people that think they're interesting enough to spied on whilst they're sitting in their living room or whatever on Kinect... I can't think of anything less interesting. The important shit is on my PC and phone thats where they need to get me.
 
This reason erks me every time. Your phone, laptop, tablet, etc all have cameras that the NSA or any other government agency could use to see/track you. Same could be said if you the PS4 camera. Also, you could just unplug the kinect you know?

Whats the fucking point paying for the camera then lol, anyway

xbox-one-major-nelson.jpg
 

Chettlar

Banned
Whats the fucking point paying for the camera then lol, anyway

xbox-one-major-nelson.jpg

The point is that the concern is...weird and really unfounded. And just plain silly. If you're really THAT worried, lol, just unplug it.

As for those of us who are perfectly normal, we can keep the camera plugged in, though I agree MS really needs to do more to demonstrate that it's really value added.
 

ironcreed

Banned
The point is that the concern is...weird and really unfounded. And just plain silly. If you're really THAT worried, lol, just unplug it.

As for those of us who are perfectly normal, we can keep the camera plugged in, though I agree MS really needs to do more to demonstrate that it's really value added.

Kinect Sports Rivals looks pretty fun. That's a good start.
 

Chettlar

Banned
Phil made it seem that the new CEO and himself have the same ideas of where Xbox is heading and should go. This is very pleasing news to me. E3 is going to be amazing this year!

I know everybody is excited for Spencer, but I'm really, really starting to like the guy that promoted him, Nadella.

Guys guys guys, you are being too positive about Microsoft and the Xbox one. You are suppose to be Sony ponies because gaf is paid by Sony.

Ehh, the pay wasn't enough. Sony needs to pay us more for our trouble before we can go back to doing that again.

lol

Some of our ideas are reasonable so long as you ignore the troll/crazy posts.

GAF can have some downright brilliant suggestions and criticism. That Halo 4, what wen't wrong, thread is a gold mine of good criticism, for example.
 

El_Chino

Member
Whats the fucking point paying for the camera then lol, anyway

xbox-one-major-nelson.jpg

The point is that the concern is...weird and really unfounded. And just plain silly. If you're really THAT worried, lol, just unplug it.

As for those of us who are perfectly normal, we can keep the camera plugged in, though I agree MS really needs to do more to demonstrate that it's really value added.
What he said and also kinect is awesome for games like kinect sports/just dance and navigating through the OS. This is derailing the thread so enough of this talk.

I have faith in Phil and what he can do for Xbox. Reminds me of J Allard and Moore back in the days. Here's hoping to awesome years to come for the X1,
 
Another quality contribution.

Ive always considered it bizarre the people that think they're interesting enough to spied on whilst they're sitting in their living room or whatever on Kinect... I can't think of anything less interesting. The important shit is on my PC and phone thats where they need to get me.

Edit: Seems RSBeaver loves a little drive by:

Yesterday:



Completely unrelated GIF to what the thread was about, looks like trolling:



Cute little Sony one too:



Bizarre to say the least

"Dat" is getting thrown around Neogaf all over the place today
 

RSBeaver

Banned
dat post history

What's wrong with dat post history?

In all seriousness, I hope Phil Spencer will do a great job. As a Xbox and Xbox 360 owner as well as a PS1, PS2 owner, I am waiting to see what both consoles (Xbox One/PS4) can offer me. As both seem very "meh" at the moment. They both need to prove their commitment to their product.
 
I have to say, though, you expected anything other than rehearsed questions? This is kind of how you do things like this. Doesn't mean any of it isn't genuine.



You take that back right now! Viva Pinata is one of the best games Rare has ever made, easily. It didn't gain such a cult following by being a "waste of time."

The reason it didn't sell as well as it could have was because it was marketed REALLY poorly. Even Rare was really upset with MS for the marketing, if I remember correctly.
I totally expect it from one MS employee interviewing another MS employee. It would be foolish not to. This is basically them trying to find a way for him to say "hey I'm the new sheriff in town, I'm listening to you and this is how I plan to run things from here on out". They just chose to do it in interview form.
 

Chettlar

Banned
I am glad my thread has helped Phil. Genuinely. I want all systems to be healthy this generation, and if my thread is a part of a new dialog starting between gamers and Microsoft, we will all benefit.

Almost humbling, isn't it. And kinda cool.

I totally expect it from one MS employee interviewing another MS employee. It would be foolish not to. This is basically them trying to find a way for him to say "hey I'm the new sheriff in town, I'm listening to you and this is how I plan to run things from here on out".

Yeah, I mean, they could just have him make a statement, but having a dialogue like this makes it easier to listen to and understand, and I like that.

Excited for the podcast. Had no idea there would be two interviews between Phil and the Major today.
 

Kimppis

Member
Sounds promising. That said, it's too bad that the product is... flawed (higher price, weaker than the competitor, ESRAM, etc.) and it's too late to change that. Not to mention that the Xbone is not even out in my country. I'm expecting a great E3 conference from them, but no matter what, Xbox won't stand a chance outside NA and the UK.
 
I Love Spencer, great interview !

I'm loving my Xbox One aside from some lagginess in the UI... Games look and play great and i can't wait to see what they have for this year's E3 !
 

The Flash

Banned
What's wrong with dat post history?

In all seriousness, I hope Phil Spencer will do a great job. As a Xbox and Xbox 360 owner as well as a PS1, PS2 owner, I am waiting to see what both consoles (Xbox One/PS4) can offer me. As both seem very "meh" at the moment. They both need to prove their commitment to their product.

Actually not much. I judged a book by its cover. my bad.
 
Sounds promising. That said, it's too bad that the product is... flawed (higher price, weaker than the competitor, ESRAM, etc.) and it's too late to change that. Not to mention that the Xbone is not even out in my country. I'm expecting a great E3 conference from them, but no matter what, Xbox won't stand a chance outside NA and the UK.

The higher price can be adjusted, they said theyre in it to win and they must know that the price has to go down.

The question is whether they're prepared to sacrifice Kinect to ensure it does drop which I don't think they should do but... you never know, I can see why they would but it would be a shame.
 

Sid

Member
Nice interview,expecting MS' E3 presser to showcase a killer fall lineup filled with AAA exclusives and multiplats.
 
The higher price can be adjusted, they said theyre in it to win and they must know that the price has to go down.

The question is whether they're prepared to sacrifice Kinect to ensure it does drop which I don't think they should do but... you never know, I can see why they would but it would be a shame.

I think they keep kinect and cut price. They will eat the difference. There may be some thing in the future that completely makes it seem necessary and they would prefer the optionality.

The Build speech today had a whole segment on Kinect.
 

Caayn

Member
An interview well done. Phill managed to answer every question in a way that relates with people who play games.

Also nice nod to NeoGaf in the beginning.
 

Kimppis

Member
The higher price can be adjusted, they said theyre in it to win and they must know that the price has to go down.

The question is whether they're prepared to sacrifice Kinect to ensure it does drop which I don't think they should do but... you never know, I can see why they would but it would be a shame.

Yeah, you're right. I'm not an expert, but I remember reading that ESRAM's price will go down only slowly. With Kinect, anything is possible IMO. They might drop it at some point, but they might as well keep it, almost no matter what. A major price drop is probably not an option, because MS doesn't want to lose a lot of money with their console business anymore. Still, even with a lower price, I think their situation outside NA and the UK is pretty hopeless. But even then, it seems that the Xbone is going to sell at least "enough" in its biggest markets.
 

Chettlar

Banned
Yeah, you're right. I'm not an expert, but I remember reading that ESRAM's price will go down only slowly. With Kinect, anything is possible IMO. They might drop it at some point, but they might as well keep it, almost no matter what. A major price drop is probably not an option, because MS doesn't want to lose a lot of money with their console business anymore. Still, even with a lower price, I think their situation outside NA and the UK is pretty hopeless. But even then, it seems that the Xbone is going to sell at least "enough" in its biggest markets.

Actually, I thought I read that the ESRAM, while maybe not as good, would go down in price a lot quicker than what the PS4 uses, so that's why MS went with it over GDDR5.
 

Caayn

Member
Actually, I thought I read that the ESRAM, while maybe not as good, would go down in price a lot quicker than what the PS4 uses, so that's why MS went with it over GDDR5.
MS went with DDR3 because they needed a large memory pool for what they were planning (multitasking, etc). And GDDR5 wasn't guaranteed to be available in large enough quantities so they went with DDR3 and used ESRAM to counter the lack of bandwidth that DDR3 brings with it.

Sony gambled with the 8GDDR5 memory pool and got lucky, otherwise we'd have possible seen the PS4 with 4GB instead of 8GB.
 
Awesome interview. I love Phil's drive and focus on creating games. The Xbox brand could not be in better hands right now.

Phil has really become my favorite person in the industry over the past few years. The difference between him and Mattrick is absolutely night and day. I can't wait to see what MS brings to the table at E3 both this year and next. With Phil at the head, Xbox can finally get away from the years of Kinect, media and entertainment focused briefings that have plagued them in the past.
 

H4r4kiri

Member
Got to admit this NSA Box is really really funny.

Guy I didn't want to start a conversation about all the Micro and NSA stuff and just want to say i dont want to throw money at them because everyone knows about their policies.

It is really different to hack or use illegal activities to get your data or a company just open every single bit for you to get, what Micro did. USA founds those companys, to keep the monopoly up.

The reasoning " I dont care who watches me and collect my data" is just dump sorry. People who say stuff like that really dont care , that their humans rights ( USA should be big in this) is completely ignored. And do you care if I upload a clip where you bang your gf )
All these datas have a huge potential for hackers, economy and so on. There is no reasoning behind NSA policies, just none. It is just about controlling people and selling datas. Americans are a bit ignorant in that matter i guess, because media is more controlled over there. Anybodys who says he got nothing to hide is just lying ,sorry. (Privacy? Body? Datas? )

Microsoft was the biggest donator and i really dont trust them. Furthmore it is alot easier to protect your PC than your Xbox. I dont want so say other companies are not doing the same, but we know for sure Microsoft is the heart of all of that. Google complained massively about hackings, and sued.

I am not saying the ONE is a bad console. It got good games and they can invest heavily. I am just saying i dont want to support a company with the perfect spy bot ( just look at their scary add patents). Well that was a little bit offtopic, so lets not stretch it further.

Phil Spencer is a good guy, but Larry just seems a bit arrogant or cocky in front of a camera to me,sorry.
 
Actually, I thought I read that the ESRAM, while maybe not as good, would go down in price a lot quicker than what the PS4 uses, so that's why MS went with it over GDDR5.

eSRAM isn't supply constrained like GDDR5 or high speed DDR.
So yes, technically the price of ESRAM will go down faster.

However, the trade off is that ESRAM takes a lot of die space and larger die size means highest cost and lower yields (relative to a smaller die size.)
 

Caayn

Member
Got to admit this NSA Box is really really funny.

Guy I didn't want to start a conversation about all the Micro and NSA stuff and just want to say i dont want to throw money at them because everyone knows about their policies.

It is really different to hack or use illegal activities to get your data or a company just open every single bit for you to get, what Micro did. USA founds those companys, to keep the monopoly up.

The reasoning " I dont care who watches me and collect my data" is just dump sorry. People who say stuff like that really dont care , that their humans rights ( USA should be big in this) is completely ignored. And do you care if I upload a clip where you bang your gf )
All these datas have a huge potential for hackers, economy and so on. There is no reasoning behind NSA policies, just none. It is just about controlling people and selling datas. Americans are a bit ignorant in that matter i guess, because media is more controlled over there. Anybodys who says he got nothing to hide is just lying ,sorry. (Privacy? Body? Datas? )

Microsoft was the biggest donator and i really dont trust them. Furthmore it is alot easier to protect your PC than your Xbox. I dont want so say other companies are not doing the same, but we know for sure Microsoft is the heart of all of that. Google complained massively about hackings, and sued.

I am not saying the ONE is a bad console. It got good games and they can invest heavily. I am just saying i dont want to support a company with the perfect spy bot ( just look at their scary add patents). Well that was a little bit offtopic, so lets not stretch it further.

Phil Spencer is a good guy, but Larry just seems like a d***** to me sorry.
No offense but I think you might be getting too excited about what your preaching. This isn't exactly the thread for this stuff.

And just in case you didn't know yet, you're on the internet everyone can track you if they want to they don't need the Xbox One for that. (No this is not an excuse)
I can hear you.
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