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Dark Souls II - Graphics Comparison - PC Preview
- Thread starter fluffydelusions
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SolidsnackooFoxhound
Banned
We'll have the same incidents in DS3. Enjoy guys.
DrROBschiz
Member
Differences are very slight
You are buying PC for upgraded performance overall but this is the final game.
Damn shame we will never get the original vision but thats the way it goes in AAA
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Yes FROM was really keeping the assets for the PC version despite the majority of their fan base being on consoles. Oh will you look at that PC version now
sixteen-bit
Member
So I gather PC is a victim of #downgradegate as well?
Stone Ocean
Member
The difference is far more noticeable if you put them side by side.
John Rabbit
Banned
From Software is not a triple-A developer. Dark Souls II is not a triple-A game. they're a niche-level developer making niche-level games that just happened to explode in popularity because of stagnation in the market.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Something like Deus Ex or Tomb Raider PC ports are excellent.
This is just competent.
That's funny, because they used the same marketing schemes of triple-A development.
Krusenstern
Banned
In terms of lighting downgrade, yes.
Ok, well how about Metro: Last Light? The Witcher 2? Neither developer is some huge studio, but they managed to make very impressive looking games, being led on PC.
I'm guessing that FROM simply lack a bit of talent when it comes to performance. Both Demon's Souls and Dark Souls had noticeable performance issues on last-gen consoles, despite being nothing particularly special in terms of graphics. I think developing on a new platform(PC) was probably biting off more than they could chew. I'm sure with more time, they could have done better, but as a first attempt, the result isn't very impressive.
CountAntonius
Member
This was the last hurrah for the last gen. Now we could look forward to whatever comes next while enjoying this.
I still believe PC was the lead as in all three games were based of a build developed on PC but like you said From is From and I think when it came down to it they made sacrifices across the board to get the game to work on the consoles and couldn't take more advantage of the PC. I really do think the initial demo is what they hoped to achieve and probably would have if they weren't held back by the older hardware.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Annndd.... cancelled. Huge Demon's/Dark souls fan, but I am voting with my wallet here.
DrROBschiz
Member
They certainly received a AAA budget and resources
I think the time table deadline to release forced such compromises... or maybe the reveal demo was never attainable for the full game to begin with
I hope we get some developer commentary on this once the pot boils down. Will be very interesting
Oh, I know
I just think it's hard to complain too much when regardless, the PC is getting the best version of the game by far and it's cheaper.Misterinenja
Member
That feel when you're gonna shill out 50 euros for load times and frame rate.
And friends playing on PC only
The cost of living and development for both 4A and CDPR is significantly lower than Japanese and American produced games.
fluffydelusions
Member
Most noticeable when you play at 1080p (obviously)
Have fun not playing DSII.
the_prime_mover
Member
The backlash and downgrades surrounding this have really soured me on picking this up right away. The game may be really good, but when you release details that are even better and use those details to generate interest, disappointment should be expected. I think I will wait to see if the modding community can do anything with this game.
MisterSamMan
Member
A proper PC port with 60FPS, FromSoftware, you did well. Thanks!
EatinOlives
Member
Eh, I wouldn't call it "excellent". More like "competent".
I'd call it "excellent" if they included an SDK and Steam Workshop support or the like. There's really nothing about this port that's any better than your average PC console port.
DrROBschiz
Member
So whats the bigger culprit?
Time? Money? Management?
Maybe they were just comfortable not focusing on hitting that previous target. Would have been a weight off any developers shoulders
We need to send all game developers to Eastern Europe, pronto.
Not really, see Hitman: Absolution or Sleeping Dogs for excellent ports.
here we got high res+ higher framerate port (no Nvidia techs, no lighting, nothing extra that add to the graphics options) so this is barebone and very basic port really.
Yeah, and in a month apparently. The perspective of a lot of people in these Dark Souls threads have really lost control.
We are now at a point where a PC version with more than double the frame rate, higher resolution textures, higher resoluition, AA, etc, is considered crap.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
Screenshot Comparisons PS3 vs PC
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
The dream is dead. Honestly I am absolutely gutted.
Guess this will forever be marked as "The B Team's Souls Game". Kinda looking for a big discount on the Steam version now, will have to scour for codes and whatever.
Guess this will forever be marked as "The B Team's Souls Game". Kinda looking for a big discount on the Steam version now, will have to scour for codes and whatever.
There's one interesting point there which clearly shows that the shadow resolution is higher on PC.
So improved IQ, framerate, texture and shadow resolution.
(That shot also clearly shows higher texture res on the stones in the front btw.)
John Rabbit
Banned
do you have evidence of this? because the game looks like every From Software game to date (i.e. - not a triple-A budget).
Eh, they most likely will. Even if they get the Souls itch they can play DS, or DaS.
Metalingus5150
Member
In this video the, some sconces don't give out dynamic lighting when lit.
I could have sworn that they do in the console version.
Maybe a glitch?
I could have sworn that they do in the console version.
Maybe a glitch?
There is no way the PC framerate is higher than the PS3 framerate in this video.
Uh, yes it is.
Krusenstern
Banned
The port looks solid. No doubt. At least we don't require fixing up stuff this time.
I'm still pretty mad about the downgraded lighting and the misleading advertising with pretty pre-release footage.
I'm still pretty mad about the downgraded lighting and the misleading advertising with pretty pre-release footage.
Oh well, will wait for a Steam sale and hopefully a bunch of great mods before double dipping. The loadtimes coming off PS3 really are the most impressive change. Got accustomed to the framerate, but feels kind of wasted given how ugly the game can be in most cases.
But those games have poor lighting, ugly textures and hideous framerates. Why not boycott them as well?
#YOULIED
Oh yea. Replaying an existing Souls game for the 5th time is definitely going to be just as good as playing an entirely new one in 1080p/60fps.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
FROM/Namco don't care about PC enough to use those assets (JP developers usually don't).
Or maybe the assets were never made for the entire game so the entire game was never going to look like that.
Or maybe the assets were never made for the entire game so the entire game was never going to look like that.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
Take everything until release as an WIP. It sucks the lighting was downgraded but deal with it and move on.
There's one interesting point there which clearly shows that the shadow resolution is higher on PC.
So improved IQ, framerate, texture and shadow resolution.
(That shot also clearly shows higher texture res on the stones in the front btw.)
lol, PS3 is so blurry.
CD project took a year to port The witcher 2 and that was only to 1 console.
I don't know know enough about Metro's dev to comment really, but Metro is also a linear FPS of which a significant portion takes palce in tunnels. That helps a lot with visuals.
Not saying that these two devs aren't stronger technically, but there's different circumstances too.
Misterinenja
Member
Can't tell if serious...
Comparing it to From's past work? Yes, it is an excellent port.
Using well-funded, massive, and experienced teams to leverage an argument isn't really relevant.
Forceatowulf
G***n S**n*bi
Ahahaha
I'm sorry, but this really cracks me up.
All that "bu-bu-but wait for the pc version!" and here we are... Downgrade still firmly present.
So to all the people telling guys like me that I should have known better than to fall for media presented as console gameplay that was oh so very clearly the superior awesome pc version the whole time, I ask, what say you now!? Feeling a little stung, eh? Yeah, well, Welcome to March, glad you finally showed up.
I guess now this issue will become "real" since the glorious pc gamers got the shit end of the deceptive Sandwich too and not just us lowly console folk.
Hope everyone saved up for the ps4/xone version properly titled "Dark Souls 2: What was expected Edition" that will inevitably come out.
/still salty as fuck about downgrade
I'm sorry, but this really cracks me up.
All that "bu-bu-but wait for the pc version!" and here we are... Downgrade still firmly present.
So to all the people telling guys like me that I should have known better than to fall for media presented as console gameplay that was oh so very clearly the superior awesome pc version the whole time, I ask, what say you now!? Feeling a little stung, eh? Yeah, well, Welcome to March, glad you finally showed up.
I guess now this issue will become "real" since the glorious pc gamers got the shit end of the deceptive Sandwich too and not just us lowly console folk.
Hope everyone saved up for the ps4/xone version properly titled "Dark Souls 2: What was expected Edition" that will inevitably come out.
/still salty as fuck about downgrade
DrROBschiz
Member
http://darksouls2.wiki.fextralife.com/Articles+and+Interviews#.U0QrzD1dXQI
The team working on Dark Souls II is substantially bigger than the team that worked on Dark Souls.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=737332
- Dark Souls II is FROMSOFT biggest game in the studio's history with the development team roughy doubled.
CountAntonius
Member
They delivered a better PC version than the "A team" and a great game overall. Damn shame that a lighting engine downgrade causes so much disrespect to a group of obviously talented people.
XANDER CAGE
Member
Kind of a bummer. It's at least a big improvement over the last port, though.