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Far Cry 4's art is racist and the antagonist is (potentially) gay
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SteveWinwood
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youre legit one of my fav posters
Portugeezer
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Look at those boots, he's not gay, looks more like a metrosexual guy. Looking at the pic he is probably the an antagonist; means he is not nice, probably treats people like shit, who would have guessed...
tfur
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It sounds like you are asking for the "perfect" gay antagonist. There is no such person, gay or otherwise.
Also, I don't think game artists should have to use vanilla/plain/conformist content. I get to enjoy movies, books and music without issue. I would also like to keep games able to have creative freedoms as well.
Also, I don't think game artists should have to use vanilla/plain/conformist content. I get to enjoy movies, books and music without issue. I would also like to keep games able to have creative freedoms as well.
No! All my villains must have tumblr accounts! I demand it!
The clothes don't make the man. Out of all my gay friends, only one dresses in a way that could be considered similar to the man on the box art. If anything, it seems to me like they're going with the humorous approach for a villain. This guy looks like something I'd expect to see out of the lastest Austin Powers movie.
Showing different posturing or degrees of empowerment in art between characters with different racial backgrounds isn't inherently racist, and an antagonist being homosexual doesn't mean their orientation is part of the negative characterization. I'll be happy to react to how these elements are used in the resulting work. Otherwise I think these are vapid criticisms.
IAmRandom31
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Seems like pure paranoia to me.
You see white dude in pink lording over someone not white and automatically assume Gay and Racist.
Seems like OP is jumping to conclusions for whatever reason * shrug *
But as others have said, this is likely the villain so ... bad guy and all doing bad things with bad opinions
You see white dude in pink lording over someone not white and automatically assume Gay and Racist.
Seems like OP is jumping to conclusions for whatever reason * shrug *
But as others have said, this is likely the villain so ... bad guy and all doing bad things with bad opinions
Exactly, I see Asian features all over the suited guy. He's obviously not a natural blond either.
The people crying racism, are you looking for exaggerated eyes and giant buck teeth? Who's racist now?
We don't even know what the game is about. Save your controversy.
CheesecakeRecipe
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can't a man just look fucking dapper as hell in pink
But Tomodachi.
TheBaronOfNA
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I think he is supposed to be the bad guy and not an actual role model...
Maybe racism is an actual topic in the game? This is assuming the character on the cover is the antagonist. The game is placing racism in a negative light.. what else do you want? Should games shy away from such topics completely? I don't think so.
And as others have said, there's nothing indicating this guy is gay. Flamboyant perhaps, but you don't need to be gay to be flamboyant.
And as others have said, there's nothing indicating this guy is gay. Flamboyant perhaps, but you don't need to be gay to be flamboyant.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Straight up, let's get a badass, horrifying antagonist. Isn't that really all we need? Does a person's sexuality really define their evilness? I mean, hell, he could be bisexual and just gets off on causing suffering.
The Jackdog
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Guys i just saw the poster for godzilla and i dont want to jump to conclusions but i think they are gonna make godzilla a lizard and i know someone who has a lizard who is gonna be real offended when that hate movie comes out and everyone starts thinking lizards do nothing but grow triple the size of buildings and destroy cities.
cmon man, youre jumping to conclusions. thats a massive oversimplication. we don't know ANYTHING about the game
cmon man, youre jumping to conclusions. thats a massive oversimplication. we don't know ANYTHING about the game
None of that stuff indicates that he's racist.
Racism has a very clear definition but people keep trying to broaden it for some reason.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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ChimpanzeeThat
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I didn't think gay, i just thought crazy dressed bloke with an awful haircut.
SniperHunter
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As a brown man who was raised in this region, this image is NOT racist at all. That is a Nepali Gurkha (basically Nepal's version of Navy Seals), he is tied and being held hostage by the evil dude. It is just symbolism, an evil man came to the region and now their elite commandos are kneeling before him. There is nothing racist about it.
I posted in this the original thread
Doesn't look like a white person to me. And if he is white and the other person isn't, that means the white person's act is based on racial differences? Wow, some people need to get a grip.
And it's good to see who the real racists are by declaring a white person racist because they are white.
What do you some people?!
And it's good to see who the real racists are by declaring a white person racist because they are white.
Buck was in Farcry 3 and he was a fantastic villain, second only to Vaas in that game.
RedAssedApe
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Trying to figure out.where the racist part Comes in. Both dudes look Asian.
Dude is dressed fancy/ over the top. So what? See no foundational basis for the op. Wait until they show the game. Then you can criticize if it's a poor portrayal.
Dude is dressed fancy/ over the top. So what? See no foundational basis for the op. Wait until they show the game. Then you can criticize if it's a poor portrayal.
Riderz1337
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Get this shit out of here. You guys are getting so sensitive over a god damn box art. Jesus Christ don't you people have something better to do...
It's a god damn BOX ART. Get over it FFS
It's a god damn BOX ART. Get over it FFS
bobawesome
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Seriously...Jesus. At no point did I even come close to thinking what was in the OP.
1) More gay characters in games is good -- whether or not they themselves are good or evil
2) Racism as a theme in games is fine. It's healthy; gets people talking.
Not saying FC4 will have writers that do it any justice, but the second we manufacture outrage because someone is *trying* is the second we effectively cripple creativity. Let people take risks -- you sometimes end up with great things (ex: one of my fav. characters in The Last of Us)
2) Racism as a theme in games is fine. It's healthy; gets people talking.
Not saying FC4 will have writers that do it any justice, but the second we manufacture outrage because someone is *trying* is the second we effectively cripple creativity. Let people take risks -- you sometimes end up with great things (ex: one of my fav. characters in The Last of Us)
IdreamofHIME
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Holy fucking shit, talk about stereotyping.
omg, I can't believe you even posted this. You got issues son.
The Illiterati
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This OP is emblematic of everything that I hate with Twitter and journalism and people in general today. Faux outrage and offense over NOTHING. Grandstanding at the drop of a hat, without any understanding of context or pretty much anything.
"I see vaguely see something that might be a commentary on RACE! RACIST!"
"I spy with my little eye something that might be stretched and distorted and misconstrued as negative towards gay people! HOMOPHOBIC!"
"I see vaguely see something that might be a commentary on RACE! RACIST!"
"I spy with my little eye something that might be stretched and distorted and misconstrued as negative towards gay people! HOMOPHOBIC!"
WonderCheese
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Pretty much sums it up. Bravo.
Alfred Saxon
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You dont have a Xbox 360 thats off base.
TheWorthyEdge
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Really??? wow. I must say that saying what you just said sounds kinda.....stereotypical. Just because of his hair cut and his clothing, it doesnt make him gay. Plus to be honest I think a gay antagonist would i actually be quite interesting. I really hope Ubi doesnt back down from this.
Saying that he is gay due to his apparel is quite shallow. It's like saying that because I shaved my head I have cancer. (No offense to any of those who do have cancer) I honestly don't understand the backlash against the racism either. Its honestly not as racist as Franklin's story in GTA V, yet there was not much backlash. Really stupid.
ALSO! On the poster, art, whatever, anyone else see the guy hanging under the arch in the middle right side? Thought that was interesting.
Saying that he is gay due to his apparel is quite shallow. It's like saying that because I shaved my head I have cancer. (No offense to any of those who do have cancer) I honestly don't understand the backlash against the racism either. Its honestly not as racist as Franklin's story in GTA V, yet there was not much backlash. Really stupid.
ALSO! On the poster, art, whatever, anyone else see the guy hanging under the arch in the middle right side? Thought that was interesting.
Discotheque
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i dunno. i immediately jumped to the conclusion that the antagonist was gay too. it looked like a flamboyant caricature.
i hope they don't make him some absurd farce and get harvey fierstein to voice him or something lol. exercise some subtlety ubisoft plz.
i hope they don't make him some absurd farce and get harvey fierstein to voice him or something lol. exercise some subtlety ubisoft plz.
Kssio_Aug
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Wow... wait there! Talking about racism or prejudice in general, and just assuming the antagonist is gay because he wears pink and is blond? Thats not the right way to initiate this subject.
And even if he is, I cant see the big deal. We have inummerous straight antagonists on games over there, and in all possible ways and caracteristics.
And even if he is, I cant see the big deal. We have inummerous straight antagonists on games over there, and in all possible ways and caracteristics.
TheBaronOfNA
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MetroidPrimeRib
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Are we for real right now? The game just got announced, only thing showed is box art, and it needs baseless labels for people to be offended by already.
If the game is going to be some metaphor for imperialism or something, then let it be. That doesn't make it racist.
If the game is going to be some metaphor for imperialism or something, then let it be. That doesn't make it racist.
mr stroke
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They're not trolling. They do want to be offended. They can get attention this way.
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