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Halo 5: Guardians revealed - more at E3 - Fall 2015 [Box Art person is new guy]

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tasch

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You say disaster, I say easily the best game in the franchise with the most enjoyable Halo campaign I've ever played.

why? what about the design, be it level, encounter or enemy design, made halo 4 better? I want to see what people actually think halo 4 did better than other halo's (beyond "l33t graphix") because I just can't fathom what silly reasons people come up with.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
You say disaster, I say easily the best game in the franchise with the most enjoyable Halo campaign I've ever played.

Do you play multiplayer? Because while I personally didn't care for the campaign, Halo 4's multiplayer is straight up THE reason I bought a PS4 6 months ago.
 

Chettlar

Banned
No he is a fanboy who likes to play damage control for his chosen corporation under the guise of being 'fair and balanced'. I don't know if people were joking but some were saying he doesn't even have a PS4. I hope that isn't true as it would be extremely odd to stan for a console you don't even have.

You don't need to have a console to be a fanboy. That's like saying "I have both consoles I'm not biased!1!!1!!"

But yeah you're like "no he is a fanboy" and I'm like well... but then I read:


...lol wow. Ok, maybe he is.
 

Bsigg12

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why? what about the design, be it level, encounter or enemy design, made halo 4 better? I want to see what people actually think halo 4 did better than other halo's (beyond "l33t graphix") because I just can't fathom what silly reasons people come up with.

You already have your mind set that it's a bad game and even if he presented good reasons you'll just scoff at them and write them off as "silly". It's impossible to have a conversation with someone who preemptively decided any sort of defense for the game is "silly".
 

LordOfChaos

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How many hours have you put into the Halo 4 Campaign. Serious question, because I put about 150+ hours into Reach campaign and over 500 hours into Halo CE campaign. I stopped playing Halo 4 after I finished my first Heroic playthrough.

Whenever I see people say they loved Halo 4's campaign, I am interested to see how much time they put into it.

Woah...I've put maybe 25 hours max into any Halo campaign and I like them quite a bit. Say 8 hours per runthrough, usually play them at most twice and then intermittently, perhaps splitscreen with friends. What do you do for 500 hours?
 

tasch

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You already have your mind set that it's a bad game and even if he presented good reasons you'll just scoff at them and ride them off as "silly". It's impossible to have a conversation with someone who preemptively decided any sort of defense for the game is "silly".

I dont think halo 4 is a bad game, i think it's a horrible halo game, and I can easily list several reasons why, but it's far from a poor game. I've just yet to be convinced into a single thing that halo 4 has done better than any other halo game to date.
 

jem0208

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Oh wow.


I knew he was a Sony fan but I think that's just fanboy confirmed there.


There is no way I would trust him to be unbiased in any of his leaks. The only leaks I really remember of his were before the launch of the X1 where he claimed that the entire OS was falling apart and there would still be problems after launch. That never panned out.


I think that was Thuway.
 

jem0208

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Halo 1 > Halo 3 > Halo 4 > Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo ODST > Halo Wars

:p

If we're doing this...


Campaign:

Halo 2 > Halo 4 > Halo CE = Halo 3 = ODST > Reach

Multiplayer:

Halo 3 >>> Halo 2 = Halo 4 > Halo Reach > Halo CE


Custom games:

Halo Reach > Halo 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Halo 4

The one thing I think 343 really fucked up were the custom games. Bloody awful.

I take back what I said about Halo 4 being the worst Halo. Reach is the worst, still one of my favourite games though :3
 

Booshka

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Woah...I've put maybe 25 hours max into any Halo campaign and I like them quite a bit. Say 8 hours per runthrough, usually play them at most twice and then intermittently, perhaps splitscreen with friends. What do you do for 500 hours?

Lots and lots of Co-op and I never get bored of running a few Legendary Levels on Halo CE. I am a huge Halo CE fan, the gameplay has never bored me, so for the past decade plus, I have always gone back to the Campaign to mess around and enjoy it. Also, lots of goofy stuff to do with blowing Warthogs up with nades, etc, etc.

I can fire up a level or two of Halo CE on Legendary and have a blast every time, solo or co-op.
 

Chettlar

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I jus't dont get it. Halo 2 had a horrible campaign, the leveldesign (especially in High Charity) sucked soooo much.

When you have a game that has decent atmosphere, and a story that hits the right points with people, no matter how bad it is people
like jem 0208
are going to swear it's the best.
 

Bsigg12

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I jus't dont get it. Halo 2 had a horrible campaign, the leveldesign (especially in High Charity) sucked soooo much.

2's campaign wasn't finished, even Bungie will tell you that. High Charity was pretty rough. If they (Saber/Certain Affinity/343) could go back and clean up the campaign with unfinished missions, it could possibly save that campaign.
 

Faith

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Ok I'm gonna do this right:

Campaign overall: Halo 1 > Halo 3 > Halo 4 > Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo ODST
Story: Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 1 > Halo 4 > Halo Reach & Halo ODST
Multiplayer: Halo 3 > Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo 4
Maps: Halo 3 >>>>>>>>>> Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo 4
 

Defect

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When you have a game that has decent atmosphere, and a story that hits the right points with people, no matter how bad it is people
like jem 0208
are going to swear it's the best.
I barely played Halo 2's campaign but I do remember it being boring. Can someone explain why the campaign was bad?
 

Chettlar

Banned
Ok I'm gonna do this right:

Campaign overall: Halo 1 > Halo 3 > Halo 4 > Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo ODST
Story: Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Halo 1 > Halo 4 > Halo Reach & Halo ODST
Multiplayer: Halo 3 > Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo 4
Maps: Halo 3 >>>>>>>>>> Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo 4

This we can agree on.
 

Caayn

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I think that was Thuway.
That was both Thuway and Famousmortimer. But let's not start a witch hunt here guys.
I jus't dont get it. Halo 2 had a horrible campaign, the leveldesign (especially in High Charity) sucked soooo much.
I'm one of the few who liked it, seeing the fight from another perspective. Sure it could've been better but for me it was, without a doubt, better than Reach
if Reach didn't contradict some of the cannon when it came out I'd have probably liked it more
, Wars and especially 4. But I'm also one of the few that hadn't watched the E3 demo before I played it.

You know I'm going to put ODST on par with 2. The campaign was something completely new and fresh while fitting perfectly within the franchise, imo.

Multiplayer: Halo 3 > Halo 2 > Halo Reach > Halo 4
Now this is something I can agree on.
 
man thuway what are you dong

Thuway being Thuway, that actually seemed like one of the better things he said, the bar is low though. Parrott needs a holiday and some rum on a desert island for a while.

If the press know everything, something would have spilt by now.

When it comes to Microsoft news (not news of third party games on Microsoft consoles, but Microsoft itself), my backside is as reliable as he is, until he goes out on a limb and gets something completely left of the field correct. But he won't, because he can't talk about it...!

Back on topic, playing through Halo 4 at the moment and I love it, can't wait for Guardians.
 
I jus't dont get it. Halo 2 had a horrible campaign, the leveldesign (especially in High Charity) sucked soooo much.

Halo 2 is the only Halo that I never played the campaign more than once. I think that it has the same pit falls as Halo 4, sacrificing gameplay and huge encounters for amazing graphics.

However, switching from Xbox to 360 yielded the double scarab moment. If 343i does something similar, I'll be one happy gamer.
 

RSB

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Lots and lots of Co-op and I never get bored of running a few Legendary Levels on Halo CE. I am a huge Halo CE fan, the gameplay has never bored me, so for the past decade plus, I have always gone back to the Campaign to mess around and enjoy it. Also, lots of goofy stuff to do with blowing Warthogs up with nades, etc, etc.

I can fire up a level or two of Halo CE on Legendary and have a blast every time, solo or co-op.
I'm the same. I don't think I'll ever get tired of Halo CE. I always have to play a couple of levels (at least) every few weeks. So good.

Are we ranking the games again? Heh, Halo threads never change. OK:

Campaign: Halo 1 > Halo 3 > Reach > ODST > Halo 2 > Halo 4

Multiplayer: Halo 1 > Halo 2 > Halo 3 > Reach > Halo 4
 

Chettlar

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I barely played Halo 2's campaign but I do remember it being boring. Can someone explain why the campaign was bad?

Pretty much just that. It was boring, with ultra linear levels, bad AI, aimbot jack snipers (seriously the worst part of the game), and very little substance. You could do a lot better if you could only get one Halo game, or really game at all, for the rest of your life.

Multiplayer was great fun though.
 
man thuway what are you dong
His twitter rants are just odd. Calling xbox fans pathetic for not talking about Titanfall anymore, because there's a chance it will go to PS4 (or something like that). They're just out of the blue too. Even Mort called him out.


But anyway, how about that Halo? I hear he's a pretty cool guy.
 
i got 99 weekly challenges in a row in reach from launch till i stopped.

that was numerous mythic runs of the game.



...halo 4 i didn't even finish. got to the level with the elephant....nothanksthissucks.exe

as for multiplayer, it got bad with reach but SO MUCH WORSE with 4. couldn't stand it

went from playing hours a night on 2 and 3, to enough to do the weekly with reach. to 12 matches at best in 4.

RIP in piece halo map control. good luck halo 5



also halo3 > halo 2 > ODST > reach > CE > imagine fashion designer > halo 4
 

jem0208

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i got 99 weekly challenges in a row in reach from launch till i stopped.

that was numerous mythic runs of the game.



...halo 4 i didn't even finish. got to the level with the elephant....nothanksthissucks.exe

as for multiplayer, it got bad with reach but SO MUCH WORSE with 4. couldn't stand it

went from playing hours a night on 2 and 3, to enough to do the weekly with reach. to 12 matches at best in 4.

RIP in piece halo map control. good luck halo 5



also halo3 > halo 2 > ODST > reach > CE > imagine fashion designer > halo 4


Sounds like you hardly gave the game a chance...
 

Bsigg12

Member
His twitter rants are just odd. Calling xbox fans pathetic for not talking about Titanfall anymore, because there's a chance it will go to PS4 (or something like that). They're just out of the blue too. Even Mort called him out.


But anyway, how about that Halo? I hear he's a pretty cool guy.

I heard this Halo guy you're talking about is bringing a friend to the party. I hope she's hot.
 

Fracas

#fuckonami
That seems to be an odd reason. To me at least.

Wait what?
That is so weird haha.

Halo was the reason I owned an original Xbox and 360. I put thousands of hours into the games. I saved up for a year to buy a 360 in 2007 for Halo 3. Reach was pretty bad but we (myself and gaffers) played literally every night.

Halo 4 came out and I bought the $100 LE. Complete reversal from what made the original series so great. Last time I played it was sometime last fall. Halo's basically the only Microsoft IP I care about. So in my eyes yeah, Halo 4 was and is an absolute disaster.
 

nomis

Member
Okay, this is getting weird.

In the last two weeks, I've independently run into three separate individuals (two girls one guy) at parties or at work who have casually mentioned that they play Halo. I haven't played H4 since early 2013 so I ask "Wow really, I don't hear that often these days... do you play Halo 4?".

"No, Reach."
 

rrc1594

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Do you play multiplayer? Because while I personally didn't care for the campaign, Halo 4's multiplayer is straight up THE reason I bought a PS4 6 months ago.

You have more self-control then me cause I could not go a gen with out playing Halo or Gears. GOWJ was a fucking disaster right their, but I still look forward to next game
 

Scrabble

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I jus't dont get it. Halo 2 had a horrible campaign, the leveldesign (especially in High Charity) sucked soooo much.

High Charity's probably my favorite level. I probably liked Halo 2 far more than I should, on sole account of the soundtrack. Best video game soundtrack ever.
 
Sounds like you hardly gave the game a chance...

I did really enjoy the campaign, the things they changed in halo made for a worse multiplayer but a better campaign BUT it had 2 levels or so in a row that sucked all the fun right back out of it for me and with online being how it was. I was DONE with that game.

I should make a video with my anger but nobody wants that....
 

rrc1594

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MW1 > MW2 > BlOps > BlOps 2 > WaW > MW3 > Ghosts > Halo 4

Fuck out of here!

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