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DOOM Teaser Trailer Released by Bethesda, full unveil at QuakeCon
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That's actually part of the game. Between shooting unholy unions of metal and flesh, you need to prioritize artwork asset creation for the upcoming social media campaign while on a conference call with management and simultaneously reading up on European age rating specifications. After that comes the end boss with those wicked sick rocket jumps.
SinSilla
Member
Hm? Oo
New engine? Care to elaborate? Haven't heard anything, who is in charge of that now?
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
They have my interest.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I have SERIOUS doubts they'll be able to show something as graphic as this with current day technology. We finally have the hardware to make it real, but somehow developers seem to have lost all and any interest in creating genuinely gruesome FPS.
Orthogonal
Member
Rage had so much potential. The gunplay is very satisfying and the animations were amazing. My jaw hit the floor when I saw a soldier go down, drop his weapon and lean over pick it up and fire. The graphics were kind of odd, they look very good from a distance, but utter garbage up close (thanks Megatextures) and of course, the story was full of tripe, the pacing was poor and it had an abrupt ending. There was soooo much hype and media for this I thought it was going to be amazing, but of course id let us down.
DOOM is a franchise with immense nostalgia and a huge following so it can return to form I just don't know if the id that's left can do it. I'm praying they do.
DOOM is a franchise with immense nostalgia and a huge following so it can return to form I just don't know if the id that's left can do it. I'm praying they do.
I don't know what to say really for this teaser but I'm hoping for the best.
I want the gameplay to be good of course, just like t he original doom had it. I'd love for them to learn a lot from the original game and the original map designs, Sandy Peterson and Romero were pretty much masters at it.
I'd like to see levels in the vein of this.
I want the gameplay to be good of course, just like t he original doom had it. I'd love for them to learn a lot from the original game and the original map designs, Sandy Peterson and Romero were pretty much masters at it.
I'd like to see levels in the vein of this.
Original Engine stands up great doesn't it? 
not long ago Zenimax trademarked a new Engine called Void
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=715736
Then we know that they were hiring engine programmers for the engine in their Core Technology group team (the team in charge of that), and it's clearly for an FPS title(s)
http://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/618
so yeah. Void. new Engine. for FPS legendary title.
my guess is this will be Void engine first game.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I took it to mean things like the Cyberdemon are the end results of the UAC's meddling with interdimensional portals, which is true. There was particular knowing emphasis on "unholy" in the VO, so I have no doubt that unlike the awful movie they're keeping the Hell angle.
Turin Turambar
Member
Not exactly. I understood the failed experiments caused the monsters to appear (like in the original games). Portal to another dimension, Hell, etc.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
HYPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
I imagine they are doing 30 fps right?
blast processed
Member
I usually don't like CGI trailers with no gameplay, I feel Blizzard is the only company that can get away with it but this looks pretty bad ass.
Ragnarok
Member
I don't know what to say really for this teaser but I'm hoping for the best.
I want the gameplay to be good of course, just like t he original doom had it. I'd love for them to learn a lot from the original game and the original map designs, Sandy Peterson and Romero were pretty much masters at it.
I'd like to see levels in the vein of this.
Original Engine stands up great doesn't it?
what's that?! O_O
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
sounded like failed interdimensional travel experiments to me
Seems like they want the new engine to support 60fps and more
http://jobs.zenimax.com/requisitions/view/618
Ragnarok
Member
wolfenstein had some very tasty gibs.
I really hope so, I thought I saw writing on the Cyberdemon's gear. I hope you guys are right, DOOM really needs that supernatural evil element. It ties everything together.
Well the UAC fused the Cyberdemon with its technology in Doom 3 so here they are once again doing stuff they shouldn't really be doing. Capturing it and giving it a rocket launcher is probably not the smartest thing they have done
MrCunningham
Member
Woah, so this rumored Void Engine could pretty well be idTech6 with a different name? That would be rather hype if they debuted Doom with a bran new engine. I wonder if Carmack had any input on the Void engine before he left id?
That would be map 9 of a doom wad (a new set of levels) called Sunder. It's for the original game on PC. A series of slaughtermaps that are difficult as hell.
The architecture though put into some of these levels are incredible.
Ragnarok
Member
nice i stick to the retail wads. Haven't really poked around at all with any of the fan made stuff. That looks amazing though!
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Here's the plot:
Scary demons with super guns, kill em in the face. Cue Double barrel shotgun
if you do go for fan made stuff there's a lot that are really good, like back to saturn x
xDUMPWEEDx
Banned
I'm also hoping that it's more like Doom 1/2 instead of 3. Who knows though. It will probably be different than anything from the past.
evilromero
Member
No. I think it's just their experiment, unrelated to the demons, opened a portal to hell. Essentially the story of the past three Dooms.
evilromero
Member
The framerate would be too fast if they updated it. It was already 60 fps I believe. All the creatures were sprites so it was able to move extremely fast.
dr_rus
Member
Corrected that mistake of yours. Otherwise a good post, 10/10.
Also I must be the only man on the planet who had zero problems with Tech 5 and actually like how it looks. (Use CUDA transcode for VTs, guys.)
nextgeneration
Member
I'd like to see levels in the vein of this.
Original Engine stands up great doesn't it?
Yup, this is EXACTLY what I want to see out of the new Doom, and I also wanna see crazy amounts of monsters onscreen at once.
Omnii-chan
Member
The Cyberdemon had stuff like "Danger" on the plating near his rocket launcher and the UAC logo on his armor. I'm afraid he might be right. Surely they know people mostly hated the movie for this very reason though? SURELY....
Delta Assault
Member
You didn't notice the horrible texture pop-in in Rage every time you turned your head?
dr_rus
Member
I had no such problem with CUDA transcode enabled. There is some pop-in but it's hardly any worse than any LOD pop-in in any open world game out there.
Actually, it's quite ok now even on CPU in Wolfenstein.
Maybe you all are playing this on consoles? id isn't exactly known for good console ports.
That the listing specifically asks for help creating the engine suggests to me that it doesn't really exist in a tangible form yet. I'd say you could be cautiously optimistic, but Bethesda is unveiling the game itself next month, so it's most definitely using id Tech 5.
Delta Assault
Member
Yeah. The console versions had a ton of pop-in.
I'm glad that this teaser exists, primarily for people who (like me) bought Wolfenstein: TNO in part because of a lingering curiosity for the DOOM beta, but also for what DOOM will be -- we know it's seen development hell, so, they *could have* stayed closed lip about it and been annoyingly sheepish with info.
I hope the reveal is good. I hope id Tech 6 / "Void" represents the best foot forward with the tech and its inherent promises (60 fps being one of those promises), but I also hope that it moves into a more sustainable paradigm for visuals (in a world with CryEngine and UE4, physically-based rendering is a must, and real-time lighting comes along for the ride, so baked-lights really need to GTFO). It would be nice if geometry streaming becomes a reality in the form Carmack would have seen it be, but I doubt that's a viable direction to take right now.
The primary hope for me is, be halfway between DOOM 3 and DOOM. Keeping it dark and gritty is fine, but favor action early and frequently; make it a game to remind people why we even liked Doom in the first place. Introduce campaign COOP -- Far Cry 4 and AC Unity are proving that a world without your friends just isn't as interesting, and the history is there for DOOM to safely bring that in.
Of course, please bring MachineGames in to help work on it. They 'got' Wolfenstein, and I'm sure they'll 'get' Doom just as well if not better. Bring a little bit of the crazy back into Doom -- make it contemporary without being a slave to what games are doing today (TNO struck a great balance!).
Here's hoping it doesn't suck. It probably will, but Doom really, really doesn't deserve to have a potential last outing as a shit game that just reminds us id Software is on the way out.
I hope the reveal is good. I hope id Tech 6 / "Void" represents the best foot forward with the tech and its inherent promises (60 fps being one of those promises), but I also hope that it moves into a more sustainable paradigm for visuals (in a world with CryEngine and UE4, physically-based rendering is a must, and real-time lighting comes along for the ride, so baked-lights really need to GTFO). It would be nice if geometry streaming becomes a reality in the form Carmack would have seen it be, but I doubt that's a viable direction to take right now.
The primary hope for me is, be halfway between DOOM 3 and DOOM. Keeping it dark and gritty is fine, but favor action early and frequently; make it a game to remind people why we even liked Doom in the first place. Introduce campaign COOP -- Far Cry 4 and AC Unity are proving that a world without your friends just isn't as interesting, and the history is there for DOOM to safely bring that in.
Of course, please bring MachineGames in to help work on it. They 'got' Wolfenstein, and I'm sure they'll 'get' Doom just as well if not better. Bring a little bit of the crazy back into Doom -- make it contemporary without being a slave to what games are doing today (TNO struck a great balance!).
Here's hoping it doesn't suck. It probably will, but Doom really, really doesn't deserve to have a potential last outing as a shit game that just reminds us id Software is on the way out.
Delta Assault
Member
I feel like one super important thing they need to nail is the shotgun. Doom had an amazing shotgun, which was satisfying and meaty and reliable and everything a staple FPS gun should be.
People forget this, but the shotgun was also useful out to a fair distance. Unlike a lot of later FPS shotguns, the Doom shotgun didn't have spread like a waterhose, but had a nice tight grouping of pellets for a good long ways. This was tragically discarded in Doom 3, where the shotgun felt like it had to be fired only when an enemy got within... like, 12-15 feet. The spread on it felt like it was about 45 degrees to either side of the crosshair. Just awful. That needs to be forgotten. Doom 4's shottie needs to go back to the classic Doom model, where you could count on it for medium range encounters.
People forget this, but the shotgun was also useful out to a fair distance. Unlike a lot of later FPS shotguns, the Doom shotgun didn't have spread like a waterhose, but had a nice tight grouping of pellets for a good long ways. This was tragically discarded in Doom 3, where the shotgun felt like it had to be fired only when an enemy got within... like, 12-15 feet. The spread on it felt like it was about 45 degrees to either side of the crosshair. Just awful. That needs to be forgotten. Doom 4's shottie needs to go back to the classic Doom model, where you could count on it for medium range encounters.
dr_rus
Member
Have you played Wolfenstein TNO on PS4/XBO? I wonder if that has changed on the new generation... Technically GCN should be capable of accelerating PRTs on GPU plus 8 GBs of RAM must help with texture cache.
Ah yes the good ol shotgun. That and oddly enough the chaingun were what were used for long distance shots. Perfect for picking off heavy weapons dudes off the ledge or revenants.
My friend made a weapons mod that replaces the shotgun with a shotgun that fires normally and alternate fires a rifle bullet for long distance perfect percision. Also he replaced the super shotgun with a triple barreled shotgun.
A mate and I smashed through most of Wolf14 on the X1 and I can't say I noticed even the slightest instance of texture pop-in. I assume the PS4 holds up equally well.
charlequin
Banned
This was already the deal though. The demons burst through the portal and started to incorporate technology from the place they arrived.
No it isn't. That picture is bullshit because
1) Doom maps were not multi levelled
2) The 2nd picture "modern game" picture is a joke picture, while the first picture shows an entire map from doom. You can take any one corridor from that entire doom map and it will look like the 2nd picture.
3) It ignores the fact that games like Crysis, Deus Ex, Wolfenstein, Farcry exist. Speaking of which you didn't have games like Farcry in 1993.
Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
You missed the point in which the picture is a parody, making fun of the current market. As such, the fact that intends to transmit is amplified by the literary device known as exaggeration. Sheesh.
Anyways, the point still stands. Even Doom's bidimensional maps were massively more complex and open than most modern ones, multi levelled or not. There's a good reason why the launch of a new Crysis or Far Cry game are events by themselves, and that's because they bring something relatively unusual to the market.
Most current day FPS undestand level progression as pushing the player through a level by means such as explosions and moving vehicles, whereas in Doom you could take multiple paths at your own pace, not the one dictated by the developers. One of the things I hate most about CoD and Battlefield is the feeling of being the content inside of a syringe.
Holy shit, most likey cg, but this is probably my favourite trailer of the show.
That Cyberdemon is badass!
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